Halloween 4K UHD (1978) - Page 143 - Blu-ray Forum

crissrudd4554 · 10-05-2018, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JekYL

I don't know what everyone else is getting back (I've been busy for the last few days, so I missed the last 50 pages or so of the tread...) but I emailed Lionsgate concerning the mono issue. I detailed the issues with it, and asked if there were any plans of fixing it at all. I wasn't nasty or combative about it at all.

This is what they messaged me back with:

That's it. Is anybody getting anything else back? I'm guessing this is going nowhere...

They didn’t even acknowledge I was inquiring about in issue whether they knew about it or not in the response I got.

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Originally Posted by crissrudd4554

I got this email today which doesn’t even address the issue. So in layman’s terms they ain’t fixing it!

barrycameron · 10-05-2018, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bourne1886

What is your problem? People are just trying to point out some relevant information which is the truth and you’re being ridiculous about it!

Are you joking?

I was personally belittled for not noticing audio issues on the 4K and I have the problem? Maybe it's time you read the full conversation before saying I was the one being ridiculous.

dcx4610 · 10-05-2018, 03:31 PM

To clear up (or not) the boogeyman line at the end....

The actual script says "It was the boogeyman..."

It seems the majority of people hear "What's the boogeyman?" or "Was it the boogeyman?"

You can't really make out the "It" at the beginning and her delivery comes across more as "Twas the boogeyman".

Either way, it's really interesting because it totally changes the ending depending on how you hear it and what was said.

Laurie is basically coming to terms that Tommy was right and it WAS the boogeyman. Loomis confirms she is correct.

The other way, she's asking Loomis if it was the boogeyman and he confirms it.

I like both I thought it was the latter for all of my life until now.

DJR662 · 10-05-2018, 03:45 PM

Just watched this yesterday and all seems fine to me (including the audio

).

Being a "regular" Halloween fan, it's been a while since I had last seen this. It's definitely less "autumn looking" than I remembered and quite frankly, I actually liked that look. It's what I always remembered from those first scenes on the street with Laurie and her friends talking. So at first it took a little while to get used to, but if this is closer to the intended look, then that's fine by me.

As for the movie itself, I really enjoyed seeing it again after so long! Will be watching it again this month and do a back to back, as soon as I have received my Halloween II steelbook edition from Scream Factory.

IntelliVolume · 10-05-2018, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AllOuttaBubbleGum

With regard to Halloween II--now that it's in the mix of this thread--would it be reasonable to conclude that Dean Cundey and associated colorists would have done their best to recreate the look of Halloween for the sequel? If that were true, it would suggest that the warmer 2007 blu and THX dvd are closer to Halloween's original saturation, timing, luminance, etc....as opposed to the more, err, lugubrious modern look of the 35th and UHD.

I always thought the 2007 Blu looked "brighter" and a bit "colder" than the THX DVD -- not as warm.

JohnCarpenterLives · 10-05-2018, 03:50 PM

Checking back after a ton of pages.

Still no "subsequent pressings will have the ORIGINAL mono" message from Lionsgate?

Bourne1886 · 10-05-2018, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by barrycameron

Are you joking?

I was personally belittled for not noticing audio issues on the 4K and I have the problem? Maybe it's time you read the full conversation before saying I was the one being ridiculous.

Oooooooooooo.......scary! Michael has nothing on you!

Martoto · 10-05-2018, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

I always thought the 2007 Blu looked "brighter" and a bit "colder" than the THX DVD -- not as warm.

Yeah. I don't know why people are talking as if they have the same timing. They certainly do not.

AlexIlDottore · 10-05-2018, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bourne1886

Oooooooooooo.......scary! Michael has nothing on you!

Don't feed the troll, dude.

StingingVelvet · 10-05-2018, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Markgway

So, is Lionsgate seriously giving consideration to this being repressed with ORIGINAL mono or is that just backside talk?

lol @ Lionsgate repressing a disc. Expendables 3 and Ender's Game are LITERALLY BROKEN and they didn't even replace those.

jrcorwin3 · 10-05-2018, 04:27 PM

If you could see me, I would be shrugging to display my indifference. A mono track is available with this UHD release. Is it the original mono track? No, apparently not. Is it a lossy version. Yes, it is. The differences between this mono track and the original are incredibly minor and superficial. Also...the hill some choose to die on is lossy vs. lossless...mono? Seriously? If you believe you can tell the difference with a 1978 mono source you are only fooling yourself.

This is a beautifuly done catalog release. If this doesn’t make you happy, nothing will.

Doctorossi · 10-05-2018, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jrcorwin3

If you could see me, I would be shrugging to display my indifference. A mono track is available with this UHD release. Is it the original mono track? No, apparently not. Is it a lossy version. Yes, it is. The differences between this mono track and the original are incredibly minor and superficial. Also...the hill some choose to die on is lossy vs. lossless...mono? Seriously? If you believe you can tell the difference with a 1978 mono source you only fooling yourself.

This is a beautifuly done catalog release. If this doesn’t make you happy, nothing will.

It's not about lossy vs. lossless; it's about original mix vs. remix- a very different story (not that a lossy track should be acceptable on UHD, either).

jrcorwin3 · 10-05-2018, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jrcorwin3

If you could see me, I would be shrugging to display my indifference. A mono track is available with this UHD release. Is it the original mono track? No, apparently not. Is it a lossy version. Yes, it is. The differences between this mono track and the original are incredibly minor and superficial. Also...the hill some choose to die on is lossy vs. lossless...mono? Seriously? If you believe you can tell the difference with a 1978 mono source you are only fooling yourself.

This is a beautifuly done catalog release. If this doesn’t make you happy, nothing will.

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

It's not about lossy vs. lossless; it's about original mix vs. remix- a very different story (not that a lossy track should be acceptable on UHD, either).

Which is why I mentioned both “issues.” The differences between the original mono and the one included with this release are minute.

AlexIlDottore · 10-05-2018, 04:42 PM

Why does original audio even exist? Why is it in the big Halloween box, for example? Why does this topic come up so frequently? Why do people need to have it explained again and again?

AKORIS · 10-05-2018, 04:50 PM

Happy Birthday today to the late, great Donald Pleasence!!!

JohnCarpenterLives · 10-05-2018, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterLives

Checking back after a ton of pages.

Still no "subsequent pressings will have the ORIGINAL mono" message from Lionsgate?

Guess not.

bobbyh64 · 10-05-2018, 06:08 PM

There’s no way Lionsgate will “fix” the audio issue on this disc. Anchor Bay didn’t fix the issue on the 35th Anniversary when it falsely advertised that it had the original mono, so why would Lionsgate when there isn’t any false advertisement? A couple years ago I asked Anchor Bay about the mono issue and they thought I was talking about the audio sync issue on the Halloween 4 disc.

crissrudd4554 · 10-05-2018, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jrcorwin3

Which is why I mentioned both “issues.” The differences between the original mono and the one included with this release are minute.

There is no purpose at all for a 2.0 downmix of a surround track to exist. The purpose of including a mono track is because it is the ORIGINAL mix! Only in this case it’s not! Simply chalking it up to ‘its a mono track and the differences between that and the original are minimal’ is no excuse because the mono track on this release shouldn’t exist to begin with. Do I think the release will be fixed?? No. However saying the differences are minor when people have been able to list specific examples where differences are apparent is no excuse to just say it’s good enough. Unless its the original, the mono track on this release is pointless.

StingingVelvet · 10-05-2018, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by crissrudd4554

There is no purpose at all for a 2.0 downmix of a surround track to exist.

It's always weird to me that Shout Factory includes a downmix on all their discs for movies that were 5.1 originally. Like... my equipment will downmix it, and only enthusiasts go into the sound menu in the first place. It's just an odd thing to do IMO.

GeoffOliver · 10-05-2018, 07:33 PM

I regularly pick a 2.0 mix if available because my parents’ TV is hooked to stereo speakers, and I don’t find myself turning the volume up/down as much.

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10-05-2018, 04:27 PM	#2851
jrcorwin3 Senior Member Member since:Feb 2018	If you could see me, I would be shrugging to display my indifference. A mono track is available with this UHD release. Is it the original mono track? No, apparently not. Is it a lossy version. Yes, it is. The differences between this mono track and the original are incredibly minor and superficial. Also...the hill some choose to die on is lossy vs. lossless...mono? Seriously? If you believe you can tell the difference with a 1978 mono source you are only fooling yourself. This is a beautifuly done catalog release. If this doesn’t make you happy, nothing will. Last edited by jrcorwin3; 10-05-2018 at 04:35 PM.

10-05-2018, 03:31 PM	#2843
dcx4610 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012 4K collection:644 Blu-ray collection:1253 DVD collection:7 Trading Score:21	To clear up (or not) the boogeyman line at the end.... The actual script says "It was the boogeyman..." It seems the majority of people hear "What's the boogeyman?" or "Was it the boogeyman?" You can't really make out the "It" at the beginning and her delivery comes across more as "Twas the boogeyman". Either way, it's really interesting because it totally changes the ending depending on how you hear it and what was said. Laurie is basically coming to terms that Tommy was right and it WAS the boogeyman. Loomis confirms she is correct. The other way, she's asking Loomis if it was the boogeyman and he confirms it. I like both I thought it was the latter for all of my life until now.

10-05-2018, 03:45 PM	#2844
DJR662 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2009 Trading Score:30	Just watched this yesterday and all seems fine to me (including the audio ). Being a "regular" Halloween fan, it's been a while since I had last seen this. It's definitely less "autumn looking" than I remembered and quite frankly, I actually liked that look. It's what I always remembered from those first scenes on the street with Laurie and her friends talking. So at first it took a little while to get used to, but if this is closer to the intended look, then that's fine by me. As for the movie itself, I really enjoyed seeing it again after so long! Will be watching it again this month and do a back to back, as soon as I have received my Halloween II steelbook edition from Scream Factory.

10-05-2018, 03:50 PM	#2846
JohnCarpenterLives Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2008 4K collection:232 Blu-ray collection:993 DVD collection:419 Trading Score:5	Checking back after a ton of pages. Still no "subsequent pressings will have the ORIGINAL mono" message from Lionsgate?

10-05-2018, 04:42 PM	#2854
AlexIlDottore Banned Top contributor Member since:Jan 2014 Location:France 4K collection:287 Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:19	Why does original audio even exist? Why is it in the big Halloween box, for example? Why does this topic come up so frequently? Why do people need to have it explained again and again?

10-05-2018, 04:50 PM	#2855
AKORIS Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Beautiful Pacific Northwest 4K collection:662 Blu-ray collection:3655 Blu-ray reviews:19	Happy Birthday today to the late, great Donald Pleasence!!!

10-05-2018, 06:08 PM	#2857
bobbyh64 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Apr 2016 Location:Los Angeles	There’s no way Lionsgate will “fix” the audio issue on this disc. Anchor Bay didn’t fix the issue on the 35th Anniversary when it falsely advertised that it had the original mono, so why would Lionsgate when there isn’t any false advertisement? A couple years ago I asked Anchor Bay about the mono issue and they thought I was talking about the audio sync issue on the Halloween 4 disc.

10-05-2018, 07:33 PM	#2860
GeoffOliver Blu-ray Knight Member since:Sep 2014 Location:Atlanta GA 4K collection:259 Blu-ray collection:1505 DVD collection:332	I regularly pick a 2.0 mix if available because my parents’ TV is hooked to stereo speakers, and I don’t find myself turning the volume up/down as much.

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