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Old 09-24-2010, 05:43 AM   #281
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The Jeff/Britta relationship was another thing they realized wasn't working that's why it toned down so much last season after the first half of episodes. They are very aware it's Jeff/Annie we all want so we will get that.
Yeah I know more people that want the Jeff/Annie relationship more then the Britta one. I'm happy it was toned down as I like them as friends more.
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Old 09-24-2010, 06:15 AM   #282
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Yeah I know more people that want the Jeff/Annie relationship more then the Britta one. I'm happy it was toned down as I like them as friends more.
Um, no.

Jeff/Annie is creepy.
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Old 09-24-2010, 01:13 PM   #283
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Community went from being one of the best sitcoms on tv to one of the best shows on currently period for me last night.

Amazing opening. Gonna be a great season.
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:09 PM   #284
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I highly recommend the Old White Man Says Twitter page the show created. WyldeMan linked to it a couple pages back with all the other Twitter pages the show created but it makes more sense after seeing the episode. There's some very funny lines on it.

http://twitter.com/oldwhitemansays
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:20 PM   #285
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"You guys got any room in your pockets for a little spare Chang?"
You gotta love Chang.
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Old 09-24-2010, 04:39 PM   #286
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I highly recommend the Old White Man Says Twitter page the show created. WyldeMan linked to it a couple pages back with all the other Twitter pages the show created but it makes more sense after seeing the episode. There's some very funny lines on it.

http://twitter.com/oldwhitemansays
Wow I thought it was just a snarky stab at the "(*&#$ My Dad Says" show.
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:04 PM   #287
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Just about what I expected......not really good, but not bad either. BBT still pulled in well over 13 million viewers, while Community barely pulled in 5.

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As expected Community got crushed at 8:00pm but it performed as well as or better than it did most of the time last season. It was down against last season’s premiere, and by a lot, but last season it premiered a week earlier and was on at 9:30 after The Office. It was actually up 16% vs. its first 8pm episode last season, despite the Big Bang competition.
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Just about what I expected......not really good, but not bad either. BBT still pulled in well over 13 million viewers, while Community barely pulled in 5.

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That's kinda good it stayed the same hopefully it does that each week or get's better so we get a 3rd season.
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Old 09-24-2010, 05:31 PM   #289
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That's kinda good it stayed the same hopefully it does that each week or get's better so we get a 3rd season.
You know what's not good? Shat My Dad Says pulling in 7.5 million more viewers than Community, that is such horseshit! On a better and funnier note, here is a recap of all that was awesome about last night's premiere brought to us by Sepinwall, a man who writes about only great tv.

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"Community" is back, boys and girls, and if you missed any of my cast and crew interviews over the summer, I talked with Donald Glover and Danny Pudi, Alison Brie, Dan Harmon, the Russo brothers and Yvette Nicole Brown. (And I have one more to go after next week's episode airs.) As for the premiere itself, a review coming up just as soon as I put on my Spider-Man jammies...

"I'm hoping we can move away from the soap-y relationship-y stuff and into bigger, fast-paced, self-contained escapades." -Abed

After a season finale I didn't like very much, "Community" opens season two in incredibly strong form, with an episode that turned the finale threads both good (Jeff/Annie kiss), bad (Britta/Jeff/Stabler triangle) and uncertain (Pierce/Troy as roommates) to its advantage. As Abed's meta quote above (and his later lament that he wanted more adventures like paintball) suggests, the romantic material of tended to be the iffiest part of season one, particularly where it involved Jeff and Britta. But the idea of Jeff and Britta having a very public, completely fake relationship built entirely on spite and one-upsmanship? Fantastic. I laughed a very long time at their awkward French kiss and their various other hostile PDAs, and Britta's embrace of her newfound popularity among the women of Greendale (when, as Jeff reminded us, not being liked by women was always one of her hang-ups) was a very nice area in which Gillian Jacobs got to play(*).

(*) Can any of our many breakdance afficianados name the specific dance move Britta kept trying? It wasn't quite pop-and-lock, and it wasn't quite fish-out-of-water, and those are two of the three moves I can readily identify. (The other is the one where you spin around on a piece of cardboard.)

And the fallout from both Britta/Jeff and Jeff/Annie helped create some good tension within the group, particularly in the wedding scene where one secret (Jeff and Britta's post-apocalyptic nookie) after another (Jeff and Annie's kiss) came out. As meta as Abed gets - and then as much as the other characters (here Shirley and Jeff) comment on his meta nature - what makes the character, and the show's various pop culture fetishes, work is that they're never there just as namechecks. Abed is the way he is for a reason, which Danny Pudi plays beautifully as he reminds the trouble-making Jeff, "TV makes sense. It has logic, structure, rules. And likable leading men... We have you."

There are comedies whose push for warm-and-fuzzy endings either ring false(**) or just seem unnecessary(***), but they're an essential part of "Community," and often the most effective part. Abed's speech was a terrific moment, and even better was Jeff's speech about respect, which was heartfelt and then hilariously undercut by Betty White trying to kill Jeff while Pierce threw urine on him. As Slappy Squirrel would say, now that's comedy.

(**) For the false kind, see CBS' "($#*!) My Dad Says," which premiered immediately after "Community," and which was parodied here in the subplot about Troy's @oldwhitemansays Twitter feed, which I've been taking great pleasure out of in the week since I first watched the premiere. Interesting, though, that "Community" would take on that show and not the one directly competing against it, but "($#*!)" is an easier target, whereas I get the sense Harmon and Bill Prady from "Big Bang Theory" get along.

(***) While I loved many of the dramatic moments on "Scrubs," there were plenty of episodes that climaxed with JD learning some kind of lesson simply because that was the formula Bill Lawrence had set forth in the pilot.

And speaking of Betty White, I was pleased to see that Chris McKenna's script gave her an actual character to play, and not just another Old Ladies Say The Darndest Things role like she's been doing for most of this, The Year of Betty White(****). She was crazy, but not in a way that required an octogenarian actress to be funny so much as it required an actress with impeccable delivery and timing. Dan Harmon has said that he'd love to have White come back at some point, and I would heartily welcome that character back, if only so we can see her singing more '80s hits with Troy and Abed like their wonderful rendition of Toto's "Africa."

(****) Is it now The Year-Plus of Betty White? The Decade of Betty White?

Meanwhile, the episode did a good job of addressing the new position of the study group's former professor, as Senor Chang adjusted to life as Student Chang while being just as sleazy and imperious as ever. Jeff acknowledges to the group that they'll eventually have room in their pocket for a little spare Chang, and in the meantime we get to see Ken Jeong play the character working from a position of weakness, which is fun. Plus, he's Smeagol!

Add in one hilarious Troy moment after another (the Spider-Man pajamas as a hat-tip to the Donald Glover/Twitter/Spidey campaign, Troy greeting Britta with "Hi, 'Toy Story 3'!" and Troy selling out Jeff to have sex with one of the Britta groupies), Jeff dismissing "Twilight" as one long metaphor about how "men are monsters who crave young flesh," Annie punching Jeff, Annie and Shirley's dueling screams, and so many other great throwaway bits, and you had a premiere that showcases all that's good, decent and damn funny about "Community."

I love this show.
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i didn't get the toy story 3 reference. explain!
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i didn't get the toy story 3 reference. explain!
Well right after the group first got together in the study room they where all depressed about not knowing if Britta was coming back, and Pierce asked if everybody had seen Toy Story 3 and than Britta popped up on the couch and as the whole group was saying "Hey Britta!" Troy said "Hey Toy Stor....Britta!!" he caught himself midway through calling Britta, Toy Story 3, lol.
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To be honest, a 2.2 and 5 million is green worthy against TBBT. NBC should be proud.
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Old 09-24-2010, 06:50 PM   #293
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I've always felt that NBC has made some of the best and most memorable sitcoms.
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Old 09-24-2010, 07:15 PM   #294
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To be honest, a 2.2 and 5 million is green worthy against TBBT. NBC should be proud.
I was hoping you'd say that. I thought the numbers where pretty good myself but I still cannot believe Shat had 7.5 million more viewers. That has got to be due to it's lead in. And I'll be curious to see what the ratings are like next week. I think Community should be doing a lot better than it is, but hey if it keeps the show on the air, than I'm good with the numbers.
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oldwhitemansays: "Kids are like dogs. If you want them to obey you, you have to treat them like children."

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Finally watched it! GREAT episode! I love having this show back!
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What an unfunny episode (season two premiere). I'm not going to bother watching any more episodes. I'll stick with Modern Family.
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What an unfunny episode (season two premiere). I'm not going to bother watching any more episodes. I'll stick with Modern Family.
I laughed my ass off during the premiere. You must not have seen season one, because the premiere was basically all jokes referencing the first season.
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I laughed my ass off during the premiere. You must not have seen season one, because the premiere was basically all jokes referencing the first season.
No wonder. Still I didn't like the look of the show. Pass.
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No wonder. Still I didn't like the look of the show. Pass.
Lol, well it's your loss. Community is easily my favorite comedy on NBC along with Parks and Recreation.
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