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Old 02-19-2014, 05:15 PM   #281
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There's a bunch of Disney 3D titles available on Vudu. For rent & to own. Are you referring to release date exclusivity?
Well, if Frozen does rent, then it'll be "titleS" available for rental.
At the moment, it's "Title", singular--Out of a dozen or so Disney 3D titles, only "Planes" can be rented for $6.99.

The rest, including the Marvel movies, are purchase-only, for $32.99-35.99. (Or a discounted $30.99, for the reissues of Chicken Little and Meet the Robinsons.)

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It's not that bad. Just go to COLLECTIONS, scroll down to NOW ON VUDU 3D, then browse through their 114 offerings.
Namely, this page: http://www.vudu.com/movies/#featured...-Films-on-VUDU
(I always like to browse the opening 2-Minute Excerpt previews, in 3D, just to get an idea of how good the conversion titles are.)

It's not alway updated, but most of them are there.
And FWIW, Frozen says it'll have a March 18 rental date, but it's still pre-ordering as purchase-only (since pre-orders don't rent before release date).
For--yyyyep, you guessed it--$35.99.

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Old 02-20-2014, 02:28 AM   #282
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Disney is dreaming if they think 3D streaming is going to catch on and be accepted. The price points on VUDU for Frozen 3D is $5-$6 for rental and $35 for owning! WOW!! have any of you actually tried 3D on streaming? Its TERRIBLE, its so compressed, and if you are used to Blu-ray you will find it unwatchable. Just go to vudu and you can try a free sample of Tangled 3D
I'll avoid the digital 3D version, agreed. As suggested by others, it's possible Disney is opting for a push with digital sales in the US for the 3D version of Frozen, hoping they can avoid the costs of offering physical media for 3D blu ray. That was Microsoft's plan also with the XBox One...
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Ice Age Continental Drift 3D from Fox was labled region free and it was 50HZ
And does not play in 3D in US players.


But seeing how the other UK 3D bluray Disney titles seem to pay just fine in the US I am leaning towards Frozen playing fine as well.

I was initially much more cautious about this being region free considering the stunt disney pulled with the UK release of the Jungle book being labled in pre orders as being region free right up to the day they started shipping, then suddenly it turns out to be region coded B&C only. but my fingers are crossed that was just a one time glitch for now.
I seriously doubt the UK 3D will have 50Hz content, but if you think The Jungle Book was a "one time glitch" you must have bought George Strait's oceanfront property in Arizona. Though if they region-lock Frozen UK 3D that will essentially confirm they're double-dipping here; and as I've been saying all along I'll be ready if it is region-locked.

However, over in the other thread someone just posted the 3D from Taiwan, which is Region A. If you can't handle the possibility of the UK 3D being region-locked, there's your solution right there.
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Old 02-20-2014, 08:03 AM   #284
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I'll avoid the digital 3D version, agreed. As suggested by others, it's possible Disney is opting for a push with digital sales in the US for the 3D version of Frozen, hoping they can avoid the costs of offering physical media for 3D blu ray. That was Microsoft's plan also with the XBox One...
Unfortunately, it's not what Sony and Disney HAVE been doing:
Ever since 3D went digital on PS3 and Vudu, Sony (who's rooting for the hardware sales) and Disney (who's rooting for the software sales) have been the only two studios to often REFUSE to offer their titles for rental, usually keeping them purchase only--
Thus removing and even preventing anything that would make a less than absolutely even playing field with hard-disk sales at Target and Best Buy. (Since Target and BB would offer discounts, and buying digital is at the full $35 MSRP price.)

Simply put, it's called a handicap: They WANT you to buy the hard disks. They want it to be easier. They don't want it to be "impossible" for you to buy digital if you want, but they don't want to cut their own throats either.
Whine about the $35 Oz all you want, Fox, Dreamworks and Lionsgate don't care if you rent Rio, Turbo or Dredd--in fact, they're hoping someone does--but Sony and Disney are the "parents" of 3D Blu, and they want sales numbers to put in the quarterly stock reports, to find out if we're really buying the format or not, like all those fear press articles say.
Those numbers come from how much hard-product they move off of retail shelves, since nobody is yet in the business of measuring how many people are buying digital for their iPads.

(Ever-panicky Warner, as of late, has been bending fans' ears with survey after survey about "Will you buy Hobbit 2 3D on digital download? Would you preorder it with a theater ticket?", but we're still in the early stages of studios trying to include the numbers.
Remember back when we were frustrated that studios only counted DVD sales and ignored Blu-ray sales because it was "too new", and complained that "no one was buying DVD"? Yeah. Same sort of thing here.)

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Old 02-20-2014, 02:24 PM   #285
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I'm thinking real hard about just buying the digital 3D version on Vudu next Tuesday and then wait for a 3D Blu-ray when they decide to release it, if or when they do. I haven't seen it yet, so I figure it's cheaper than driving to a theater (30 miles one way) to see it in 3D, and I get to keep it.
please don't support disneys digital crap. Why don't you just import the UK 3D edition ?
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Well, if Frozen does rent, then it'll be "titleS" available for rental.
At the moment, it's "Title", singular--Out of a dozen or so Disney 3D titles, only "Planes" can be rented for $6.99.

The rest, including the Marvel movies, are purchase-only, for $32.99-35.99. (Or a discounted $30.99, for the reissues of Chicken Little and Meet the Robinsons.)



Namely, this page: http://www.vudu.com/movies/#featured...-Films-on-VUDU
(I always like to browse the opening 2-Minute Excerpt previews, in 3D, just to get an idea of how good the conversion titles are.)

It's not alway updated, but most of them are there.
And FWIW, Frozen says it'll have a March 18 rental date, but it's still pre-ordering as purchase-only (since pre-orders don't rent before release date).
For--yyyyep, you guessed it--$35.99.
That's so funny! I did kind of browse down and click on one of the first Disney 3D titles to see what the Rent/Own options were like, and it was Planes that I checked. How random?
Yeah, I've also checked out their two-minute previews to gauge the level of 3D. That's cool that they do that.
I've never bought any of their full-priced Disney HDX downloads, though. Those prices are just insane. Even if Tink suddenly appeared and bathed me in faerie dust to attempt to remove my head from my rectum, they're not worth it.
I did purchase Sammy 1 because it's cheap, but still went ahead and imported the HK Blu to have a physical copy and true ownership. Plus, I bought the HDX of 12 Years a Slave because we'd like to watch it again BEFORE the Ellen-hosted ego-massage party and NOT two days after.

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Old 02-20-2014, 04:04 PM   #287
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What, do you think this is about making more money on digital or when they release Frozen again around the holidays on 3D Blu-ray? I seriously doubt they are banking on the 3D digital only release thing right now. Hell, you have to jump through hoops just to find 3D movies on Vudu.

I will be waiting to buy the Blu-ray, but until then I will have access to the 3D version for, like I wrote, less than it would cost me to see it in theaters right now. Being a father of a one year makes going out a little tough.

And don't fool yourself, whether we're buying physical discs or digital, we're already playing into their hands. Also, digital only releases is inevitable. It may not be completely appealing now, but it will be. Things change. Scary stuff.
I totally understand your reasoning and I agree with most of what you say. But, and with all due respect to you and others who feel the same as you....digital ownership is only inevitable if we, the consumers, allow it to be. Disney (and other studios to come I'm sure) can force feed digital only options all they want....but if we, again the CONSUMERS who help create these famous studios, take a collective stand and refuse to buy their reasoning and their digital options....it will die. I choose not to believe in this "inevitability". Just me though.
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Am I the only who hates importing?? I hate having a "Region 2" blu ray in my collection because it's not consistent with the rest of my collection.
Ah c'mon RowdyBurns - jump in and import it.
Then you'll have a unique piece in your collection and you'll be the envy of all of your friends!





https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Frozen-3D-Blu-ray/91511/

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Am I the only who hates importing?? I hate having a "Region 2" blu ray in my collection because it's not consistent with the rest of my collection. Sound a little neurotic? Well, I am. Not to mention you may be taking a risk if something is not region free like it says or whatever - I'd rather not deal with that stuff.
Well, then import from Taiwan... Region A, and great cover art to boot:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=2160
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Where'd that art work come from?
That's not what their showing on Amazon.UK.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Frozen-Blu-r...ords=frozen+3D
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Where'd that art work come from?
That's not what their showing on Amazon.UK.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Frozen-Blu-r...ords=frozen+3D
It was updated recently here at blu-ray.com.

The border is consistent with the UK's "Oz: The Great and Powerful" 3D Blu-ray slipcover, so even though this new image is also listed as temporary, it may be the final artwork...?

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It was updated recently here at blu-ray.com.
I see. I wonder where the new pic is sourced from?
That isn't the right rating stamp for the UK on the bottom left of the packaging, is it?

The ones I have are hexagonal.

I don't mind the artwork. Just wondering.

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Well, then import from Taiwan... Region A, and great cover art to boot


Wow - that is pretty!
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Old 02-21-2014, 11:14 AM   #294
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I see. I wonder where the new pic is sourced from?
That isn't the right rating stamp for the UK on the bottom left of the packaging, is it?

The ones I have are hexagonal.

I don't mind the artwork. Just wondering.
I received the artwork from Disney, it is the final design. And it is the correct stamp. Occasionally, we also have the Irish blue hexagon rating, but not so much with Disney titles.
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I received the artwork from Disney, it is the final design. And it is the correct stamp. Occasionally, we also have the Irish blue hexagon rating, but not so much with Disney titles.
The PG in a yellow triangle is the correct symbol for a BBFC "classification" (i.e., rating) of PG, which is what they gave Frozen (see http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/frozen-2013 -- edit: video classification at http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/frozen-video ).

The octagonal symbols are IFCO (Irish Film Classification Office, fka Film Censor's Office) classifications. Though otherwise Ireland is generally the same market as the UK, BBFC guidelines only permit IFCO on UK outer covers if it's the same as its BBFC equivalent (i.e., IFCO G = BBFC U = MPAA G; PG is the same in all three). IFCO classified it G (see http://ifco.ie/Website/IFCO/ifcoweb....nt&OpenUp=True ), so it can't appear on the UK cover as it's different from BBFC's PG.

Edit: These prove your cover is correct, or at least more current than what Amazon UK has. The Amazon UK cover has a BBFC U symbol (it should be PG) as well as a IFCO G symbol (OK with BBFC U, but not with BBFC PG).

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I received the artwork from Disney, it is the final design. And it is the correct stamp. Occasionally, we also have the Irish blue hexagon rating, but not so much with Disney titles.
Thanks for the clarification Phil.
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Mexico's 3D presale starts now. It's Region A and probably it's the same disc that was going to be planned for US. Price (37 dlls aprox), usually Disney only sells the 3D disc alone, but this time the cover says it will be a 3D+2D combo.



http://www.mixup.com.mx/mixup/Produc...=7509656304874


BD3D FROZEN: UNA AVENTURA CONGELADA
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SKU: 7509656304874
Precio de Lista: $495.00
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Thanks for the summary. I hope Disney does offer a Frozen blu ray 3D here in the US soon. Just a mystery why it hasn't appeared anywhere to this point, but if Best Buy and Target offer it as suggested, that would be nice.
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The Taiwanese 3D is now up for preorder at YesAsia for US$45.99 with free shipping, but with April 17 release date. With shipping, Mixup will run you about US$55. Both are more expensive than Amazon UK, but they're from Region A countries so there won't be any risk of possible region-locking.
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I received the artwork from Disney, it is the final design. And it is the correct stamp. Occasionally, we also have the Irish blue hexagon rating, but not so much with Disney titles.
Do you have access to the UK rear artwork? If so, what region symbols are on the back?
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