Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

I know it’s not the point but if someone wants to stream a 4 hour movie to watch on their mobile device, then they deserved to be f—d.

Not meant as a recommendation in any way, but a cell phone can be used a hotspot so they don't necessarily need to watch on their phone.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

The JL is made up of 5 characters. Standing in a line is going to cramp the scene versus 1.78 FS or better 2.40 widescreen.

so if we are talking of a single superhero movie should the AR be some form of portrait mode because people are taller then wide?
But with respect to the JL film do you suppose the whole film will be 5 people standing in line? what if there are scene with two people fighting? or just one person in the scene? or a clos up of a person talking????

[cheez avenger]

Since I missed out on the Powerhouse BD version I went ahead and ordered the Kino release from Amazon of:



Love me some Paul Schrader and this is also a blind buy. I think Schrader directed Hardcore right after, which is a terrific film.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Most humans appear to have vision of about 1.7 to 1.8 to 1. Don't know how much influence that had on choosing 16x9. For me, I prefer all movies be in 2.39 (or greater) especially location vista shots.

it has nothing to do with field of vision.

Not sure why ( my guess would be because a more square image works better for a round lens) picture film had an AR of 1.33 and silent films ended up with the same (for the film Napoleon 1927 they ended up using three projectors which came out to an AR of 4 for the final scene which I believe gave us our widest screen, first wide screen and first VAR). With the advent of talkies some of the film needed to be used for sound so academy ratio came about at 1.37. Because colour TVs started becoming popular theaters/studios tried and eventually moved to different wider screen format in order to differentiate themselves and entice people into theatres (don't forget at the time movie world and TV world were two completely different beasts that were incompatible).

With home media becoming popular the two worlds eventually re-united (theatres and studios will still you rather see films there but they also make money if you see the film at home). So in 1996 16:9 came about as the geometric mean between 1.33 (TV/old AR for films) and 2.35 (cinema widescreen/new AR) which means if you watch 1.33 the area that is black bars is exactly the same as 2.35 or if it is P&S the exact amount of image is missing.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

I really don't understand all this talk of 4:3 being cramped either. It's cramped when you take an image composed for 16:9 and cut off the sides but how can an image become cramped by adding more information to the top and bottom?

A movie filmed in 4:3 with IMAX cameras is not the least bit similar to a movie filmed in 16:9 and cropped to 4:3 with pan and scan.

have you ever taken a picture and backed off or zoomed out to fit it on screen? Even though it is not right I am guessing they see it that way. If their display is 4' wide, and it is 16:9 (or 2.35) the image is 4', on the other hand 4:3 the image is 3' so a lot less space on the wall (or as if they are farther away. But that is assuming you start with the false assumption that 1.77+ is the best aspect ratio (which might be true for some frames but not others.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Maybe if physical didn't offer the highest quality.

If one looks on page 23 of the MPA report you will see physical and EST movies have about the same numbers in terms of use. Somewhat surprising considering the disparity between the number of capable EST devices vs the number of disc players.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It’s actually against forum rules to slag the format off but this is kind of like a smack down thread so..........

It is daft though, anti-disc people being members of Blu-ray.com.

I have gattaca 4k and Wong kar wai set coming next week...

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by flyry

Physical crowd is like the anti science crowd

I thought the anti-science crowed where the ones that were pretending there is no pandemic.

[bhampton]

I'd like to pretend it's not happening. 4 kids at the high school tested positive and 126 students are now home in quarantine including 2 of my 3 kids. We did test negative so I think they can go back next Tuesday.

I need to get Gattaca UHD... It's been so long it will be like seeing it for the first time but I remember it was good.

[cheez avenger]

I canceled my Amazon order for BVS Remastered 4K disc and ordered it along with Man of Steel via Best Buy. Both should be here by Thursday.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

I canceled my Amazon order for BVS Remastered 4K disc and ordered it along with Man of Steel via Best Buy. Both should be here by Thursday.

Better price or availability or both? Have any plans for the 4 Indiana Jones UHD BD's?

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

so if we are talking of a single superhero movie should the AR be some form of portrait mode because people are taller then wide?
But with respect to the JL film do you suppose the whole film will be 5 people standing in line? what if there are scene with two people fighting? or just one person in the scene? or a clos up of a person talking????

Exavctly. Let us base a whole movie because of a poster shot!

The problem I have and why I am switching directions is that

A. It was not filmed using Imax cameras.

B. It was filmed with 1.85 in mind.

So the change seems fake as opposed to a real artistic decision.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Better price or availability or both? Have any plans for the 4 Indiana Jones UHD BD's?

A bit of both. Amazon was giving some April 23rd delivery date for the remastered version and BB said it'd be here Thursday. No-brainer. Also had a 10% off BB coupon that I had forgotten about, so threw in Man of Steel 4K disc to qualify for free shipping.

Oh, that Indiana Jones 4K box set will be mine. I loathe Crystal Skull but I'm in it for the trilogy.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

I have gattaca 4k and Wong kar wai set coming next week...

So, that makes you a hypocrite.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

So, that makes you a hypocrite.

That makes me someone who can do both. Can I not own a pair of adidas as a life long Nike fan?

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

I canceled my Amazon order for BVS Remastered 4K disc and ordered it along with Man of Steel via Best Buy. Both should be here by Thursday.

You never had Man of Steel 4K, one of my favorite movie scores by Hans Zimmer. The BVS redo is cheap enough, shame we have to double dip to get the 4K extended that wasn’t present on the first ultimate 4K release.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

You never had Man of Steel 4K, one of my favorite movie scores by Hans Zimmer. The BVS redo is cheap enough, shame we have to double dip to get the 4K extended that wasn’t present on the first ultimate 4K release.

Yeah, never had either of those 4Ks. I also don't have the 4K of Watchmen, just digital. I wish it was under $20, though. It's a bit more than $24, so hopefully the price comes down.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by flyry

That makes me someone who can do both. Can I not own a pair of adidas as a life long Nike fan?

Ignorance is bliss mate. You got the best of both worlds. Enjoy them both.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

That makes me someone who can do both. Can I not own a pair of adidas as a life long Nike fan?

You constantly put the knife into the Blu-ray format. It’s bizarre and even more so considering you still buy disc. One only needs to look at your previous comments to see that.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You constantly put the knife into the Blu-ray format. It’s bizarre and even more so considering you still buy disc. One only needs to look at your previous comments to see that.

Like how hard is it to provide comments about what you are watching never mind if it’s stream or playing media. The whole topic concerns what you are using so we can better understand what’s cool as far as our hobby.