Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[JohnAV]

Oh now we collectors have that awesome complete 13700 min Supernatural BD collection now with the final season issued this week. Thats 228.33 hours only.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

My new ATV4K arrived yesterday. I ran through some of the apps and I did notice a significant increase in speed and response time. It was not hard to adjust the settings right out of the box. I already had them written down just in case from how they were previously set on my old APTV. I just had to adjust the Chroma and Match Frames. Everything else was already set. Youtube, PRIME, HULU, ATV+, Criterion, Arrow Channel, etc., work fine. I have not gone into VUDU or MoviesAnywhere yet, so can't comment on what folks are experiencing there.

On a separate side note. Looks like HBO MAX removed the 4K/Atmos versions of the most recent theatrical releases and the Snyder Cut. These are now in HD/5.1, so that's a bummer. I will not watch Snyder Cut in HD. My 4K disc set is in transit from the UK.

If you are interfacing with a DV capable TV not every app will work as it should on the gen 2 ATV 4K. Yes Youtube works as it should when set to 4K@60Hz HDR, but not for 4K Dolby Vision. It's still the April 11th version, unless they gotten around to looking at the dynamic range issues. Eventually it will work right.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Oh now we collectors have that awesome complete 13700 min Supernatural BD collection now with the final season issued this week. Thats 228.33 hours only.

I bought the season 15 stand alone set as I already own the previous 14 seasons.

Believe it or not, I have watched seasons 1-12 twice. Really. Abundant free time makes such things possible.

[cheez avenger]

So my Lindemann: Live in Moscow BD/CD finally arrived from Amazon. It had been lost in transit for a bit and Amazon sent me a replacement and then the original arrived, so now I have two. Watched the entire concert in one sitting. It was terrific. I should have seen it last week when it played at my local iPic Theater for one night only. The 5.1 lossless track was phenomenal.

With that being said, the physical release is peculiar. It comes in a hardcover book enclosure but the book is in Russian, with snippets of English and German. The BD has the German 16 rating, so it looks like an import. It played fine on my Sony x8002 player but was reading reviews on Amazon that it's not playing some region A players. Also, there was a big sticker on the shrinkwrap saying the package was "made in Italy." Intercontinental indeed.

[cheez avenger]

Oh, and Vinegar Syndrome has shipped my 4K disc of Prospect and BD of Summer Camp Girls on BD.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Looks like HBO MAX removed the 4K/Atmos versions of the most recent theatrical releases and the Snyder Cut. These are now in HD/5.1, so that's a bummer.

My List has very few titles in it now so I will cancel my sub at the end of my 6 months trial.

On another note High-Def Digest gave theatrical release Cruella (Disney) and A Quite Place Part II (Paramount) a Highly Recommended review.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Oh, and Vinegar Syndrome has shipped my 4K disc of Prospect and BD of Summer Camp Girls on BD.

Summer Camp Girls is cracking adult film.

[Steedeel]

Going to see The Conjuring 3 with sister tomorrow. Can’t wait!

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

My List has very few titles in it now so I will cancel my sub at the end of my 6 months trial.

On another note High-Def Digest gave theatrical release Cruella (Disney) and A Quite Place Part II (Paramount) a Highly Recommended review.

I'm gonna keep it for the rest of their offerings.

I'll be seeing Quiet Place II tonight in IMAX.

[mdo7]

Oh boy, I just saw this today and I never thought this would really happened on Netflix (or any streaming sites). But 2 Netflix's original TV show will be removed from Netflix. And if you think I'm making this up:

What's on Netflix's article: Netflix original ‘Cooking on High’ & ‘Heavy Rescue: 401’ Leaving Netflix in June 2021

And to show this is not misinformation, I went on Netflix to screenshot and validate the article, and sure enough:





And yep, it's official, two Netflix original TV shows will no be longer on Netflix at the end of next month.

So reading this article and seeing it on Netflix for myself left me worried if Netflix original TV dramas, films, and any exclusive distributed TV shows and films could be gone from Netflix in the near future. I created a topic talking about that on this forum:

2 Netflix original shows will be removed from Netflix

Looks like my love-hate with Netflix (& streaming providers in general) has just intensified, now my hate relationship with streaming has just increased more and more after reading that news.

Looks like pro-physical media people are going to use Netflix's removal of their 2 original shows to prove that streaming sites can't be trusted to keep their own content forever when it comes to their own original content, and I would agree with these people making these argument.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by mdo7

Oh boy, I just saw this today and I never thought this would really happened on Netflix (or any streaming sites). But 2 Netflix's original TV show will be removed from Netflix. And if you think I'm making this up:

What's on Netflix's article: Netflix original ‘Cooking on High’ & ‘Heavy Rescue: 401’ Leaving Netflix in June 2021

And to show this is not misinformation, I went on Netflix to screenshot and validate the article, and sure enough:





And yep, it's official, two Netflix original TV shows will no be longer on Netflix at the end of next month.

So reading this article and seeing it on Netflix for myself left me worried if Netflix original TV dramas, films, and any exclusive distributed TV shows and films could be gone from Netflix in the near future. I created a topic talking about that on this forum:

2 Netflix original shows will be removed from Netflix

Looks like my love-hate with Netflix (& streaming providers in general) has just intensified, now my hate relationship with streaming has just increased more and more after reading that news.

Looks like pro-physical media people are going to use Netflix's removal of their 2 original shows to prove that streaming sites can't be trusted to keep their own content forever when it comes to their own original content, and I would agree with these people making these argument.

Netflix don’t own most (if any) of their originals.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by mdo7

Looks like my love-hate with Netflix (& streaming providers in general) has just intensified, now my hate relationship with streaming has just increased more and more after reading that news.

As with most IPTV content the when, where, duration, etc. details are in the contract(s), some info here. Also in the TOS/EULA that you must agree to before you can access the content.

[mdo7]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Netflix don’t own most (if any) of their originals.

I'm aware of that. Heavy Rescue: 401 wasn't a Netflix-created show, but licensed from a 3rd party, I don't know why it was labeled a Netflix series despite the show created by a 3rd party company. But that makes me wonder how long the contract for Netflix's exclusive titles that they don't owned like the 2 old-school anime like Neon Genesis Evangelion, Saint Seiya, or what about the K-drama, Night Light.

But here's the problem: Cooking on High is a Netflix-created original, not a licensed show from another company. So if Netflix can removed one of their own created show from their streaming platform, who's to say that Netflix 2 years from now can removedAway or Sense8 from their platform.

It's one thing to see a Netflix-created show to be removed from Netflix, now I worried if Netflix-created TV dramas like Away or Sense8 could get removed from Netflix in the near future.

This is why I get worried when I see Cooking on High, a Netflix-created show get removed from Netflix. That leave a impression that Netflix-created show don't stay on Netflix forever eternally. Also it opened the question if any Netflix-created show whether it's a cooking show, or a TV dramas, or any of Netflix documentary can be removed from Netflix in the near future.

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

As with most IPTV content the when, where, duration, etc. details are in the contract(s), some info here. Also in the TOS/EULA that you must agree to before you can access the content.

Wendell, Cooking on High is a Netflix-created show, not a licensed 3rd party content with a Netflix original labels on there. That's why I found Cooking on High being removed from Netflix very alarming to me. If a Netflix-created show can be removed from their platform, then who's to say that Sense8, Away, or even Stranger Things can be removed from Netflix in the near future.

Also, who the hell read the TOS/EULA when they subscribed to Netflix & any other streaming sites? I don't when I subscribed to Disney+ and HBO Max.

[Vilya]

Cooking On High is merely distributed by Netflix; it was made by the production company Stage 13.

Stage 13 is owned by Warner Bros. Digital Networks. Therefore, removing it from Netflix may not have been their decision. The show itself received very bad reviews, which could also be a factor.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8521728...?ref_=tt_dt_co

https://www.stage13.com/shows/

^When you scroll to the very bottom of the web page listing all of their shows, which includes Cooking On High, you will find this small print:

"TM & © 2021 WARNER BROS. ENTERTAINMENT INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED."

https://www.stage13.com/2017/08/04/press-release/

https://variety.com/2017/digital/new...ks-1202516192/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ow-on-netflix/

[cheez avenger]

Welp, it's time to put some damage in on my CC over at Vinegar Syndrome and build up my erotic BD collection. The new releases don't interest me, so that frees up some funds for the films I'm actually interested in.

Also, just got back from Quiet Place II - and it was badass! If you can make it to the show I highly recommend it.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Welp, it's time to put some damage in on my CC over at Vinegar Syndrome and build up my erotic BD collection. The new releases don't interest me, so that frees up some funds for the films I'm actually interested in.

Also, just got back from Quiet Place II - and it was badass! If you can make it to the show I highly recommend it.

I'm glad that you enjoyed Quiet Place II; I will have to wait for the disc release.

If you are worried about over heating your credit card, get one of the new liquid cooled ones.

[Vilya]

Another reason Cooking On High might be leaving Netflix is so that Warner Bros. can put it on their own streaming service. Everyone and their dog now has their own streaming service and they each need to be filled with content.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Welp, it's time to put some damage in on my CC over at Vinegar Syndrome and build up my erotic BD collection. The new releases don't interest me, so that frees up some funds for the films I'm actually interested in.

Also, just got back from Quiet Place II - and it was badass! If you can make it to the show I highly recommend it.

It’s some achievement to have six or seven new releases and not one must buy! I’m now hoping Arrow can come good later.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by mdo7

I'm aware of that. Heavy Rescue: 401 wasn't a Netflix-created show, but licensed from a 3rd party, I don't know why it was labeled a Netflix series despite the show created by a 3rd party company. But that makes me wonder how long the contract for Netflix's exclusive titles that they don't owned like the 2 old-school anime like Neon Genesis Evangelion, Saint Seiya, or what about the K-drama, Night Light.

But here's the problem: Cooking on High is a Netflix-created original, not a licensed show from another company. So if Netflix can removed one of their own created show from their streaming platform, who's to say that Netflix 2 years from now can removedAway or Sense8 from their platform.

It's one thing to see a Netflix-created show to be removed from Netflix, now I worried if Netflix-created TV dramas like Away or Sense8 could get removed from Netflix in the near future.

This is why I get worried when I see Cooking on High, a Netflix-created show get removed from Netflix. That leave a impression that Netflix-created show don't stay on Netflix forever eternally. Also it opened the question if any Netflix-created show whether it's a cooking show, or a TV dramas, or any of Netflix documentary can be removed from Netflix in the near future.



Wendell, Cooking on High is a Netflix-created show, not a licensed 3rd party content with a Netflix original labels on there. That's why I found Cooking on High being removed from Netflix very alarming to me. If a Netflix-created show can be removed from their platform, then who's to say that Sense8, Away, or even Stranger Things can be removed from Netflix in the near future.

Also, who the hell read the TOS/EULA when they subscribed to Netflix & any other streaming sites? I don't when I subscribed to Disney+ and HBO Max.

This is the world of streaming. Discs are the only way to ensure you will always have a copy of films. As for tv, that was never going to be a guarantee with services like Netflix etc.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by mdo7

Wendell, Cooking on High is a Netflix-created show, not a licensed 3rd party content with a Netflix original labels on there. That's why I found Cooking on High being removed from Netflix very alarming to me. If a Netflix-created show can be removed from their platform, then who's to say that Sense8, Away, or even Stranger Things can be removed from Netflix in the near future.

Netflix is not a studio and only in recent times bought a production company. Doubt very seriously they outright own very much of their content.

Also, who the hell read the TOS/EULA when they subscribed to Netflix & any other streaming sites? I don't when I subscribed to Disney+ and HBO Max.

Perhaps you should then you would discover the providers and content owners have 100% control including EST titles that you purchased. And the best one yet and one you agreed to, “This TOS/EULA may change in whole or in part and without notice.”