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Old 06-01-2018, 04:28 PM   #3181
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Sorry guys but your dead wrong about SONY being king of the hill in terms of PQ. According to the geniuses at HDD SONY was rated below WB, Universal, and Disney.


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Old 06-01-2018, 04:29 PM   #3182
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Sorry guys but your dead wrong about SONY being king of the hill in terms of PQ. According to the geniuses at HDD SONY was rated below WB, Universal, and Disney.


https://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...uray-era/41735
HDD wrong about something? No way!! hahaha
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Old 06-01-2018, 04:32 PM   #3183
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I was about to give them credit for calling out Disney's audio issues, but 3.5/5 video score for Sony?

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Old 06-01-2018, 04:36 PM   #3184
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At least Sony beat Lionsgate... by .5 star...

The site is a complete joke. They haven’t even updated their list of gear in years.
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Old 06-01-2018, 04:46 PM   #3185
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WTF. They've marked Sony's video quality lower than Universal's. What are they smoking over there.....and can I have some? Sounds like potent stuff.
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Old 06-01-2018, 04:51 PM   #3186
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Anyone else notice that they re-rendered Rexy in the film still on the boxart? I wouldn't be against lightly remastered Jurassic Park with full 4K scan of the OCN and the few minutes of CGI shots being re-rendered/recreated at 4K like this. Imagine it in motion!

I thought that was just an artist's rendering. I don't think it's a film still that's been re-rendered.
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Old 06-01-2018, 04:52 PM   #3187
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Anyone read their forums? Wonder if people are calling them out over there as well. Their scores really are baffling at times.
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Old 06-01-2018, 04:53 PM   #3188
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I don't think the CGI in Jurassic Park needs to be retouched.
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Old 06-01-2018, 04:55 PM   #3189
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I thought that was just an artist's rendering. I don't think it's a film still that's been re-rendered.
It's a blend of a newer Rexy model with the film still (the tail for instance is from the original render), and likely a test/comparison render from the 3D recreation of the atrium in Jurassic World used to extend the ceiling in the background.

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I don't think the CGI in Jurassic Park needs to be retouched.
It's 1K and I wouldn't be against seeing the few minutes of CGI footage redone in 4K, with some of the sorely lacking grain added in. I doubt it'll happen but that render above is certainly nice.
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Old 06-01-2018, 04:56 PM   #3190
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Sorry guys but your dead wrong about SONY being king of the hill in terms of PQ. According to the geniuses at HDD SONY was rated below WB, Universal, and Disney.


https://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...uray-era/41735
It’s one opinion. I can respect it, but vehemently disagree with it. No way Universal is number one.
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Old 06-01-2018, 05:35 PM   #3191
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WTF. They've marked Sony's video quality lower than Universal's. What are they smoking over there.....and can I have some? Sounds like potent stuff.
Hahaha

Regarding the Ultra HD set boxart: If it is really true they enhanced the t-rex explizitly for this release, I think it is even more shameful they did this for the cover - which is supposed to attract buyers - while not caring about the UHD disc's content to be above 2K.
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Old 06-01-2018, 05:39 PM   #3192
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I just don't think they did. It looks like artist renderings to me. Hence the "box art".
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Old 06-01-2018, 05:59 PM   #3193
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Yes it's new key art—not a restored version of the movie—but still uses the original film still with a new Rexy model posed on top of it, which is exactly what one would do anyway when recreating the CGI shots in a film restoration.

And it looks good. That's all I'm saying. The original VFX shots are rendered at 1K and look pretty bad in the new UHD master. Recreate them in 4K and scan the OCN to get a much higher quality version of the film and that'd be an awesome 30th anniversary restoration in a few years. For the purists, include branching sections with original CGI shots; options don't hurt.

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Old 06-01-2018, 06:13 PM   #3194
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Audio is 60% of the experience. They can't get that right, so their discs are failures.
Lol 60%. Tell that to silent movies. Films can exist without sound, but can’t withour pictures. Pictures skew way more important, obviously.
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Old 06-01-2018, 06:14 PM   #3195
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Hm ok.

BTW are the download codes available for each format, meaning e.g. for "The Lost World", does it have separate download codes for a Full HD and for a 4K download, or can you just download every resolution with one code for each movie?

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Old 06-01-2018, 06:44 PM   #3196
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Lol 60%.
Nothing quite so fun as applying statistics to art!
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Old 06-01-2018, 06:47 PM   #3197
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He's joking. Universal is never gonna lose the rights to one of their most lucrative franchises. We're stuck with whatever they're willing to give us for the rest of time.
unless fans take matters in their own hands like they did with A New Hope
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Hm ok.

BTW are the download codes available for each format, meaning e.g. for "The Lost World", does it have separate download codes for a Full HD and for a 4K download, or can you just download every resolution with one code for each movie?

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One 4K code for each movie. At least it's that way in the BestBuy Steelbook.
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Old 06-01-2018, 07:00 PM   #3199
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Lol 60%. Tell that to silent movies. Films can exist without sound, but can’t withour pictures. Pictures skew way more important, obviously.
I have to disagree with you.

Jurassic Park IS definitely about the sound more than the picture.

Key scenes cause panic and emotion with just a basic image on screen. ie: cup of water resonating from T-rex steps.

Of course it is the combination of A/P that make it up however I would say for the key scenes that 60% is accurate on an estimate of how important the sound is for this particular movie.
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I'm in agreeance with Bates (boy, that a sentence you don't hear every day) on the picture. At one point in time, I would agree that sound was just as equally important. If not more so. Now things have changed. Look at music videos for example. Artists that grew up on MTV sometimes are all about the image and aren't the same without it. Without an image, Madonna might not be where she is today. Without an image, Thriller is just a rather generic and bland sounding song.

I think the only thing that saved that song was the music video. That goes for a lot of Michael Jackson's music in my opinion. Sure, sound is important but it is not near as crucial in the storytelling of movies as the picture. Take out the sound of the scene in Jurassic Park when they first see the dinosaurs and you still have amazing storytelling there. When doctor Grant takes off his sunglasses and looks up at the dinosaurs it tells more than anything sound can. And when he moves Elle's head it also tells so much more. An even better example is A Quiet Place. There's a movie that is more effective without sound than it is with.
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