New Disney titles for 2012 (Rescuers Aristocats Pocahontas etc.) !

[Bk_Tan]

Counter-intuitive post, but, this thread should be retired now.

[GC Riot]

Originally Posted by Bk_Tan

Counter-intuitive post, but, this thread should be retired now.

Ahhhh... my old thread nearing retirement, over 300,000 views later. You've made me so proud

[PuppyJonathan]

So long, this thread has brought joy to me this year :sniff:

[yumny]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

So long, this thread has brought joy to me this year :sniff:

I agree *cries*

[zoodermin]

Before is gone, I want to share a picture that I’ve waited a long time to take it.

This has been a fantastic thread and here’s hoping the new 2013 thread will also be as wonderful as this one.

[zoodermin]

I was thinking that before we close this thread and since all the 2012 Disney BDs have been released, Why not reflect on this past year by making a poll? Here are the questions:

Best Disney BD of the year
Worst Disney BD of the year
Best Disney BD cover art
Worst Disney BD cover art
Best Supplements
Worst Supplements
Best Transfer
Worst Transfer
Most surprising announcement (the one you didn’t see coming).

All Disney Titles (live-action/animation) including its subsidiaries (Pixar, Marvel, etc.) are eligible. The only requirement is that they were released this year.

I’ll go first:

Best Disney BD: Finding Nemo
Worst Disney BD: Home on the Range.
Best Cover Art: The Rescuers/The Rescuers Down Under
Worst Cover Art: Pocahontas
Best Supplements: Finding Nemo
Worst Supplements: The Great Mouse Detective
Best Transfer: Lady and the Tramp, Pixar (Brave, FN)
Worst Transfer: Home on the Range.
Most Surprising announcement: The Great Mouse Detective.

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by zoodermin

I was thinking that before we close this thread and since all the 2012 Disney BDs have been released, Why not reflect on this past year by making a poll? Here are the questions:

Best Disney BD of the year
Worst Disney BD of the year
Best Disney BD cover art
Worst Disney BD cover art
Best Supplements
Worst Supplements
Best Transfer
Worst Transfer
Most surprising announcement (the one you didn’t see coming).

All Disney Titles (live-action/animation) including its subsidiaries (Pixar, Marvel, etc.) are eligible. The only requirement is that they were released this year.

I’ll go first:

Best Disney BD: Finding Nemo
Worst Disney BD: Home on the Range.
Best Cover Art: The Rescuers/The Rescuers Down Under
Worst Cover Art: Pocahontas
Best Supplements: Finding Nemo
Worst Supplements: The Great Mouse Detective
Best Transfer: Lady and the Tramp, Pixar (Brave, FN)
Worst Transfer: Home on the Range.
Most Surprising announcement: The Great Mouse Detective.

Damn it those were my choices too , sorry but I just think I agree with your choices the most

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by zoodermin

I’ll go first:

Best Disney BD: Finding Nemo
Worst Disney BD: Home on the Range.
Best Cover Art: The Rescuers/The Rescuers Down Under
Worst Cover Art: Pocahontas
Best Supplements: Finding Nemo
Worst Supplements: The Great Mouse Detective
Best Transfer: Lady and the Tramp, Pixar (Brave, FN)
Worst Transfer: Home on the Range.
Most Surprising announcement: The Great Mouse Detective.

Best Disney BD cover art: Rescuers 1+2 (it actually makes the movies look good!)

Worst Disney BD cover art: Finding Nemo 3D/Steelbook (Okay, I know we all want original-theatrical, but history isn't always kind: Can we finally put it behind us that the original "Big scary closeup of Bruce" marketing may have actually been Eisner's villainous attempts to sabotage Nemo's marketing in the theaters, to pull the rug out from under Pixar's threats of independence if the movie was a hit? The mass-market cover has lovable Crush in the streams, and think that's what kids remember; I don't want Eisner's weaselry immortalized on the permanent-copy cover.)

Best Supplements: Lady & the Tramp Second Screen

Worst Transfer: Great Mouse Detective (do-over!)

Most surprising announcement (the one you didn’t see coming): Treasure Planet AND Home on the Range, first off the back-catalog list. "Some of the last shall be first", and on the same week, too.

[yumny]

I'm just gonna ignore Pixar on this one and stick to Disney only
I'll also include European releases.

Best Disney BD: Pocahontas (European version)

[Show spoiler](So many extras! Cool menus and loading screens!)

Worst Disney BD: Tarzan, European release

[Show spoiler](Horrible transfer, static menu, little extras; this release was CRAP)

Best Cover Art: The Rescuers/Down Under, US combo pack
Worst Cover Art: Pocahontas / Pocahontas II, US combo pack
Best Supplements: Pocahontas

[Show spoiler](They were so elaborate and cool!)

Worst supplements: The Great Mouse Detective
Best Transfer: Threeway tie between Lady and the Tramp, 101 Dalmatians and Pocahontas.
Worst Transfer: The Rescuers Down Under.

[Show spoiler](Personally I think the decision to not go with the caps-sourced file killed the entire thing.)

Most surprising announcement: The Great Mouse Detective.

[Show spoiler](Came outta nowhere!)

[RebelPrince1986]

Regarding The Rescuers Down Under using a film source rather than the CAPS file... I finally got the Blu-ray and I'm wondering if they decided to go with a film transfer in order to have a bit more visual continuity with the first film?

I'm in no way sticking up for it, I would have much rather had a pristine version of the film from it's original source, but maybe the thought process is that it would have been a huge variation in picture clarity between the two films if they used an old film file for one and CAPS for the other.

Just a thought.

[Lnds500]

Originally Posted by RebelPrince1986

Regarding The Rescuers Down Under using a film source rather than the CAPS file... I finally got the Blu-ray and I'm wondering if they decided to go with a film transfer in order to have a bit more visual continuity with the first film?

I'm in no way sticking up for it, I would have much rather had a pristine version of the film from it's original source, but maybe the thought process is that it would have been a huge variation in picture clarity between the two films if they used an old film file for one and CAPS for the other.

Just a thought.

Then why didn't they do the same for Fantasia?

[yumny]

Originally Posted by Lnds500

Then why didn't they do the same for Fantasia?

Exactly.

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by Lnds500

Then why didn't they do the same for Fantasia?

But Fantasia has the best restoration out of all the classics?

[disneyfreak]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

But Fantasia has the best restoration out of all the classics?

Imo, Fantasia is not the best classic restoration, that title belongs to Sleeping Beauty.

On another note, isn't this the only thread we really have for the rescuers thats a main thread for it. We aren't going to have a thread if we delete or lock this one.

[yumny]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

But Fantasia has the best restoration out of all the classics?

IMO that title belongs to Sleeping Beauty, if only because due to the different production values / animation Sleeping Beauty just ends up looking slicker.
Still think Fantasia was unbelievably good, though.
Actually, I would rate all of the Disney restorations of the Classic Gold Era five stars (Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, Bambi, Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan, Lady and the Tramp, Sleeping Beauty) if not for a few pesky exceptions..

- I cannot get over the soft, fazed shots in Snow White even if they are part of the source material..
- Cinderella's transfer looks nice in motion, but like said before they didn't just clean this one, they violently threw acid over it.

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by yumny

IMO that title belongs to Sleeping Beauty, if only because due to the different production values / animation Sleeping Beauty just ends up looking slicker.
Still think Fantasia was unbelievably good, though.
Actually, I would rate all of the Disney restorations of the Classic Gold Era five stars (Snow White, Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, Bambi, Cinderella, Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan, Lady and the Tramp, Sleeping Beauty) if not for a few pesky exceptions..

- I cannot get over the soft, fazed shots in Snow White even if they are part of the source material..
- Cinderella's transfer looks nice in motion, but like said before they didn't just clean this one, they violently threw acid over it.

Snow White did look soft and Sleeping Beauty looks soft on the site's screenshots

[Freddy2]

Originally Posted by RebelPrince1986

Regarding The Rescuers Down Under using a film source rather than the CAPS file... I finally got the Blu-ray and I'm wondering if they decided to go with a film transfer in order to have a bit more visual continuity with the first film?

I'm in no way sticking up for it, I would have much rather had a pristine version of the film from it's original source, but maybe the thought process is that it would have been a huge variation in picture clarity between the two films if they used an old film file for one and CAPS for the other.

Just a thought.

I appreciate that thought. I had the same one, actually. But honestly, I doubt Disney would think it through that far...
If they did, it would be logically correct, as those two really are direct sequels, whereas Fantasia 2000 and the original are not. Fantasia 2000 is in fact a follow up, show casing how much farther their skills had evolved over the last 60 years, so of course it should come from as good a source as they had, i.e. CAPS.

However, in case of RDU, I think it's more likely that most of the original CAPS files are gone. I believe that at first, CAPS was only meant as a system to create a source on film, not to be the source itself. Soon after, that notion changed of course.
Disclaimer: this is NOT a fact. It's just what I think has happened.

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by Freddy2

However, in case of RDU, I think it's more likely that most of the original CAPS files are gone. I believe that at first, CAPS was only meant as a system to create a source on film, not to be the source itself. Soon after, that notion changed of course.
Disclaimer: this is NOT a fact. It's just what I think has happened.

I heard Toy Story had that problem when it was coming to DVD originally. That could be very true

[yumny]

Originally Posted by Freddy2

However, in case of RDU, I think it's more likely that most of the original CAPS files are gone. I believe that at first, CAPS was only meant as a system to create a source on film, not to be the source itself. Soon after, that notion changed of course.
Disclaimer: this is NOT a fact. It's just what I think has happened.

Then why did they have CAPS-sourced RDU clips on the "Waking Sleeping Beauty" Blu-Ray?

Try again

[Freddy2]

Originally Posted by yumny

Then why did they have CAPS-sourced RDU clips on the "Waking Sleeping Beauty" Blu-Ray?

Try again

Why would they do ANYTHING!?... Clips are very rarely taken from THE source, just A source the clip maker happened to have access to.