Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

I enjoyed it quite a bit, but people here hate the movie. It has its issues however it is leagues better than that trash part 3 was.

People were raving about it on here at the time of release. It just seems odd to talk as if a film was bad when it was rated 71% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.

[ArmyOfDarknessAW]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

People were raving about it on here at the time of release. It just seems odd to talk as if a film was bad when it was rated 71% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.

The tide has turned. It seems most hate it now for some reason. As I said it has issues, but it is a fun movie IMO and crushes part 3.

[spectre08]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

People were raving about it on here at the time of release. It just seems odd to talk as if a film was bad when it was rated 71% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.

I feel like I've been fairly consistent about my dislike for it.

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

The tide has turned. It seems most hate it now for some reason. As I said it has issues, but it is a fun movie IMO and crushes part 3.

Personally I think it's pretty much on par with the first Jurassic Park.

Originally Posted by spectre08

I feel like I've been fairly consistent about my dislike for it.

I didn't say everyone but most members loved it at the time of release.

[ArmyOfDarknessAW]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

Personally I think it's pretty much on par with the first Jurassic Park.

I didn't say everyone but most members loved it at the time of release.

I still like Lost World more. I didn't read the book so I have no attachment to it. I know it strays far from the source material, but since I don't know it I don't care. The RV going off the cliff and the glass cracking is one of the most thrilling part of any of the movies. The gymnastics could have been left out though.

[Just Jimmy]

Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

The tide has turned. It seems most hate it now for some reason.

don't you know, its the popular thing to do these days...hate on a good movie. If something is good you MUST trash it...all the cool kids are doing it.

[Gizz]

Originally Posted by Just Jimmy

don't you know, its the popular thing to do these days...hate on a good movie. If something is good you MUST trash it...all the cool kids are doing it.

Well then I am happy not to be cool because I still love the film.

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

I still like Lost World more. I didn't read the book so I have no attachment to it. I know it strays far from the source material, but since I don't know it I don't care. The RV going off the cliff and the glass cracking is one of the most thrilling part of any of the movies. The gymnastics could have been left out though.

Yeah, there were some typical Spielberg moments. Still wasn't as good as the first though.

[ArmyOfDarknessAW]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

Yeah, there were some typical Spielberg moments. Still wasn't as good as the first though.

Absolutely nowhere in the same league of the first. The first is a top 5 movie for me.

[tiger_qc]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

Personally I think it's pretty much on par with the first Jurassic Park.

JW was an entertaining blockbuster but it isn't on par with the first one, it's not in the same league. JP redefined FX and had a pretty innovative story to tell, while JW was well made an entertaining but nothing more.

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by tiger_qc

JW was an entertaining blockbuster but it isn't on par with the first one, it's not in the same league. JP redefined FX and had a pretty innovative story to tell, while JW was well made an entertaining but nothing more.

I completely disagree. Jurassic World was exactly how to do a sequel and had the thrill factor for me of the first Jurassic Park.

[ArmyOfDarknessAW]

The first felt more claustrophobic and personal while JW felt like a big action epic. I preferred the feel of the first by far.

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by ArmyOfDarknessAW

The first felt more claustrophobic and personal while JW felt like a big action epic. I preferred the feel of the first by far.

That was surely the point though because Jurassic World was more a commentary on commercialism whereas Jurassic Park was focused more on the messing with nature angle.

[ArmyOfDarknessAW]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

That was surely the point though because Jurassic World was more a commentary on commercialism whereas Jurassic Park was focused more on the messing with nature angle.

Still prefer the first by far. Almost every single aspect of the first is better than JW. I'm not trash talking JW either I just find JP that much better. To me I'd rank them...

Jurassic Park


Lost World
Jurassic World

Jurassic Park River Adventure ride












Jurassic Park 3

[tiger_qc]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

I completely disagree. Jurassic World was exactly how to do a sequel and had the thrill factor for me of the first Jurassic Park.

JP was smart (innovative story) and redefined special effects in cinema forever, JW was a fun monster ride but it have a dumb story. While it may be very well made it didn't achieve anything new in terms of FX, the first one is a milestone that even T2 didn't reached in 1991. Over 20 years after it was originally made the FX looks like it's brand new. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed JW for what it was but it's not in the same league as JP.

The story of JP is far more superior than the one from JW.
The cast of JP is superior than the cast used in JW.
Given the fact that JP is from 1993 and JW 2015, JP is winning the crown for FX as well.

The raptor scene with the kids in JP is still stressing me out and I watched this movie at least 20 times, nothing in JW comes even close to that.

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by tiger_qc

JP was smart (innovative story) and redefined special effects in cinema forever, JW was a fun monster ride but it have a dumb story. While it may be very well made it didn't achieve anything new in terms of FX, the first one is a milestone that even T2 didn't reached in 1991. Over 20 years after it was originally made the FX looks like it's brand new. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed JW for what it was but it's not in the same league as JP.

The story of JP is far more superior than the one from JW.
The cast of JP is superior than the cast used in JW.
Given the fact that JP is from 1993 and JW 2015, JP is winning the crown for FX as well.

The raptor scene with the kids in JP is still stressing me out and I watched this movie at least 20 times, nothing in JW comes even close to that.

There is no way you can say the effects in Jurassic Park were better than the ones in Jurassic World. That's not even factually correct; technology has changed considerably since Jurassic Park came out so the effects are automatically better.Yes, Jurassic Park's effects were great but it's a bit rose-tinted to say they're better than those in a modern 2015 movie.

As for the story, I actually prefer Jurassic World's. I love the idea of the park being fully operational and that people in the Jurassic Park universe have got so bored of the traditional dinosaur that they are having to create a whole new one to entice people back. That's something that would happen in real life; it's a smart commentary on commercialism and how far businesses will go to get the money they crave. Jurassic Park, whilst having a great story is more 'basic' in that it was more about introducing audiences to the world of Jurassic Park for the first time given that there hadn't been any other films before it.

And yeah, the cast in Jurassic Park is great but Jurassic World has Chris Pratt! Not even Jeff Goldblum (as much as I think he's a great actor) can compete with him.

[AaronJ]

Well, I finally saw the first one. It was rather mediocre, IMO.

On the plus side, both Bryce Dallas Howard and Christ Pratt were excellent. They had great chemistry. Also, there was a good deal of humor that was effective.

On the negative side, however, it was fairly boring and rather poorly paced I thought. And there was just too much that was ridiculously silly. I mean, dinosaurs "talking" to each other, the whole humans communicating with dinosaurs, etc. That stuff was just ridiculous.

So, I'd probably give it about a C+, when all is said and done.

[Will.]

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

There is no way you can say the effects in Jurassic Park were better than the ones in Jurassic World. That's not even factually correct; technology has changed considerably since Jurassic Park came out so the effects are automatically better.Yes, Jurassic Park's effects were great but it's a bit rose-tinted to say they're better than those in a modern 2015 movie.

There is no such thing as "factually correct" when judging the effectiveness of special effects in a movie. The question is not how "good" they look by themselves, but how succesful they are as compliments to the movie they are in. For the record, I believe JP beats JW on both counts.

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

As for the story, I actually prefer Jurassic World's. I love the idea of the park being fully operational and that people in the Jurassic Park universe have got so bored of the traditional dinosaur that they are having to create a whole new one to entice people back. That's something that would happen in real life; it's a smart commentary on commercialism and how far businesses will go to get the money they crave. Jurassic Park, whilst having a great story is more 'basic' in that it was more about introducing audiences to the world of Jurassic Park for the first time given that there hadn't been any other films before it.

I actually think the commentary in JW is pretty basic compared to the discussions of scientific ethics and "playing God" that go on in the original.

Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523Bluray

And yeah, the cast in Jurassic Park is great but Jurassic World has Chris Pratt! Not even Jeff Goldblum (as much as I think he's a great actor) can compete with him.

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[spectre08]

Chris Pratt was the only thing I found genuinely enjoyable about the movie. He was the only character in the entire film that I didn't want to see get eaten.

[erixon20]

Originally Posted by tiger_qc

I'm far from a Michael Bay fan but The Island was pretty good IMHO.

Yes, I am another one of the few who genuinely like The Island.