Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by zodwriter

In this digitally connected world you are always talking about, you should be able to clearly see that wireless will soon surpass all wired forms of connection. As I said before the reason Fiber is a wishy washy prospect is because in home wired connections are being dropped like hot potatoes. This digitally connected wireless world is about convenience above everything else. As long as people are able to enjoy all their favorite internet activities (which includes streaming movies and tv shows) nobody is going to miss wires at home.

Yep, pretty much what I have been preaching for years. No more big screen entertainment. Can't wait to watch Avatar 2 on my mobile!

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by alchav21

No doubt there's a place for Wireless, but for Consistent Bandwidth needs GigaBit Fiber is now. Even some of the Telco and Cable Company Executives feel like you do, that Wireless is The Future. We all know that Executives really don't have the knowledge, and only a hand full of Tech's at these Companies will do the Math. Like 5g Wireless is no where near Roll-Out, and it already has limitations. I still say that Fiber is now, and will always have the Consistent Bandwidth that will be needed!

Originally Posted by zodwriter

In this digitally connected world you are always talking about, you should be able to clearly see that wireless will soon surpass all wired forms of connection. As I said before the reason Fiber is a wishy washy prospect is because in home wired connections are being dropped like hot potatoes. This digitally connected wireless world is about convenience above everything else. As long as people are able to enjoy all their favorite internet activities (which includes streaming movies and tv shows) nobody is going to miss wires at home.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yep, pretty much what I have been preaching for years. No more big screen entertainment. Can't wait to watch Avatar 2 on my mobile!

You're right Wireless will work if Steedeel's predictions come true, but for Big Screen Home Theater the Wireless Bandwidth will not be sufficient. I worked in the Industry Retired from AT&T, the closer you are Hard Wired to the Fiber Backbone the better Bandwidth for Video Streaming and Cloud Services. Don't you read all the problems of people trying to Stream UHD over Wireless. Also the 5g write-ups, that they are years away from Roll-Out and distance will significantly drop their Bandwidth. Like Steedeel says, for Mobile Devices Wireless is great. My Sony 65" UHD TV is Hard Wired with Structured Cat5 for both IPTV STB and Networking for my Streaming Providers, and I have no problems and my UHD Streaming is Flawless!

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Like I said, still decades away. Maybe by 2030 everything will be as you say. .

Much quicker than that.

Especially now that Hulu live just launched and they have ESPN and TNT for my sports as well as DVR, and Sling TV going a la carte<I can definitely see myself cancelling cable.

The shows are in better quality on the apps than through the cable box for some reason.

I watch HBO, starz and showtime shows through the app. The only reason i don"t watch FX through the app is because I'm too impatient to wait for whenever they put it up on the app the next day and when they do you can't skip commercials.

but if I watch all these shows and netflix and amazon and hulu shows digitally, it's only a natural progression to watch my movies that way too.

[doctor_who]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Cable is going nowhere. Such reports are comical and show a lack of understanding about the way the industry works.

We are talking decades here.

Lmao

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

Much quicker than that.

Especially now that Hulu live just launched and they have ESPN and TNT for my sports as well as DVR, and Sling TV going a la carte<I can definitely see myself cancelling cable.

The shows are in better quality on the apps than through the cable box for some reason.

I watch HBO, starz and showtime shows through the app. The only reason i don"t watch FX through the app is because I'm too impatient to wait for whenever they put it up on the app the next day and when they do you can't skip commercials.

but if I watch all these shows and netflix and amazon and hulu shows digitally, it's only a natural progression to watch my movies that way too.

That is true. But not everyone thinks the same. Some people are happy with cable. Some are happy with Sattelite. Some, with broadcast. It will be a long time before your way is the way everyone is doing things.

As for films? It will have to be Subscription because Digital HD is virtually flatlining IMO.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by doctor_who

Lmao

Let's see then. Wager? If you are so confident? By 2030, until that point cable will exist. What's your price? Couple of grand?

You do realise sports alone are tied up in contracts until next decade? (depending on the sport)

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

Much quicker than that.

Especially now that Hulu live just launched and they have ESPN and TNT for my sports as well as DVR, and Sling TV going a la carte<I can definitely see myself cancelling cable.

The shows are in better quality on the apps than through the cable box for some reason.

I watch HBO, starz and showtime shows through the app. The only reason i don"t watch FX through the app is because I'm too impatient to wait for whenever they put it up on the app the next day and when they do you can't skip commercials.

but if I watch all these shows and netflix and amazon and hulu shows digitally, it's only a natural progression to watch my movies that way too.

As an example, land lines have been declining since the mainstream adoption of mobile phones. In ten years, the percentage of mobile only households is at 50.6 I understand. So that's still a big chunk of the U.S who have landline or both. It's fair to presume it will take another ten years at the very least until landlines are obsolete, probably a lot more. These things don't happen as fast as people think.

As for these OTT services, people are forgetting one thing. They are just cable under a different label. Do you honestly think that Hulu and services like it are hoping to stay at the price they at now? There will be sport add ins, HBO, Netflix, Amazon etc.. before you know it, you will be paying close to cable prices.

[zodwriter]

What a lot of people don't realize is technology is exponential. The way things are moving now is slow compared to the way things will be 5-10 years from now or even two years from now. Streaming is getting cheaper for everybody. Cable and satellite companies know their days are numbered which is why they are gouging the heck out of customers now with high price broadband internet. They need to get every dime on the plate before wireless catches up and makes Cable and their home broadband completely obsolete.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by zodwriter

What a lot of people don't realize is technology is exponential. The way things are moving now is slow compared to the way things will be 5-10 years from now or even two years from now. Streaming is getting cheaper for everybody. Cable and satellite companies know their days are numbered which is why they are gouging the heck out of customers now with high price broadband internet. They need to get every dime on the plate before wireless catches up and makes Cable and their home broadband completely obsolete.

Obsolete in the sense that you think people will stop wanting to watch content on their television set?

[ThatOneGuy]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Obsolete in the sense that you think people will stop wanting to watch content on their television set?

Television no, stop supporting cable/satellite yes. Cable bills are ****ing ridiculous and streaming offers way more things that you can access at any time for a lot cheaper.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by John Klein

Television no, stop supporting cable/satellite yes.

Ok, so how do we get quality streams to our TV set without broadband?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by John Klein

Television no, stop supporting cable/satellite yes. Cable bills are ****ing ridiculous and streaming offers way more things that you can access at any time for a lot cheaper.

Cheaper now, sure. You can't get all the channels you want though. Eventually, it won't be much cheaper than cable.

[ThatOneGuy]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Ok, so how do we get quality streams to our TV set without broadband?

You can pay for internet services without the cable package. Quite a lot of people already do that.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Cheaper now, sure. You can't get all the channels you want though. Eventually, it won't be much cheaper than cable.

That is later down the line. Everything is a cycle. We will get cheap streaming for a good while before they start to try to gorge us.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by John Klein

You can pay for internet services without the cable package. Quite a lot of people already do that.


That is later down the line. Everything is a cycle. We will get cheap streaming for a good while before they start to try to gorge us.

Yeah, but read the post I was replying to. He thinks broadband is out and thinks wireless is the replacement. Maybe he refers to 5g , but tests aren't even conclusive as to that being a viable option for home internet connection.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by John Klein

You can pay for internet services without the cable package. Quite a lot of people already do that.


That is later down the line. Everything is a cycle. We will get cheap streaming for a good while before they start to try to gorge us.

But it will come. Cable was cheap when I first subscribed. Plus you could pick and choose channels.

[zodwriter]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yeah, but read the post I was replying to. He thinks broadband is out and thinks wireless is the replacement. Maybe he refers to 5g , but tests aren't even conclusive as to that being a viable option for home internet connection.

As I said before you are thinking in terms of the way things are now. In a couple more years the landscape will have changed. I agree right now Wireless is not good enough to completely beat out broadband in the home. There are many people who have gotten rid of cable and home internet in favor of just wireless through their mobile provider. That's on the rise. Many Cable companies are offering severely discounted high speed home wifi just to get some of the money back they are losing from the droves of cord cutters. It's ridiculous to believe that mobile wireless providers will not be capable of delivering fast enough internet for streaming at home to the TV sooner than later.

[whipnet]

Business enterprise drives the industry, not home internet use. Wired LAN's and WAN's aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

I have clients with a 10gb pipe to Cyrus One here in Houston, You can't run your "cloud" DFS over wireless. Someday, yes... but not anytime soon.

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[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by zodwriter

As I said before you are thinking in terms of the way things are now. In a couple more years the landscape will have changed. I agree right now Wireless is not good enough to completely beat out broadband in the home. There are many people who have gotten rid of cable and home internet in favor of just wireless through their mobile provider. That's on the rise. Many Cable companies are offering severely discounted high speed home wifi just to get some of the money back they are losing from the droves of cord cutters. It's ridiculous to believe that mobile wireless providers will not be capable of delivering fast enough internet for streaming at home to the TV sooner than later.

If you knew me, you would know I'm ALWAYS looking to the future lol.

[zodwriter]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

If you knew me, you would know I'm ALWAYS looking to the future lol.

Fair enough.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by zodwriter

As I said before you are thinking in terms of the way things are now. In a couple more years the landscape will have changed. I agree right now Wireless is not good enough to completely beat out broadband in the home. There are many people who have gotten rid of cable and home internet in favor of just wireless through their mobile provider. That's on the rise. Many Cable companies are offering severely discounted high speed home wifi just to get some of the money back they are losing from the droves of cord cutters. It's ridiculous to believe that mobile wireless providers will not be capable of delivering fast enough internet for streaming at home to the TV sooner than later.

yeah, maybe in 10-15 years. People get carried away with timelines.

Don't forget, you will need around 300gig allowance per month to even get near regular 4K content, especially with a family. Realistically, probably closer to 450 gig.