HD DVD gets a decent player? (Onkyo announces the DV-HD805) - Blu-ray Forum

dialog_gvf · 08-10-2007, 01:27 AM

ONKYO Introduces its First HD DVD Player, Including High-Bit-Rate and Lossless Audio Streaming via HDMI 1.3a

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08/09/07 - ONKYO USA has announced the launch of its first HD-DVD player, the DV-HD805. This player has been introduced to realize the potential of high-definition HD DVD content. It is also one of the first HD DVD players to take advantage of high-bit-rate audio streaming via HDMI version 1.3a. The DV-HD805 will be available in the fall of 2007

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The DV-HD805 will be available in the fall of 2007 at a suggested retail price of $899.

theknub · 08-10-2007, 01:36 AM

lol @ $900

gotta love the price "advantage"

aristotles · 08-12-2007, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by theknub

lol @ $900

gotta love the price "advantage"

This pretty much proves that Toshiba is pricing other companies out of the middle tier of the market and losing money on every unit by doing so. The only non-Toshiba players you will see are units like this Onkyo and Dual format players from LG and Samsung but I will not see anyone else produce an HD DVD standalone in the 500 or less range quite simply because there is no profit in it given the low amount of units sold and price pressure from Toshiba.

dingus · 08-12-2007, 03:58 AM

onkyo will put out a blu ray player very soon which should be a nice player. They have to much at stake not to. They will want a blu ray player to go along with their receivers.

hyperdine · 08-10-2007, 01:37 AM

Onkyo makes good stuff. The only problem here is that HD-DVD keeps pushing the low-price player argument and this definitely doesn't fit that strategy. So much for the "Blu-Ray players are expensive" comments

Rob Zuber · 08-10-2007, 01:46 AM

The executives at Onkyo must be distressed to see what is happening in the market. Not only is BD outselling HD-DVD, but Toshiba is putting severe price pressure on the hardware side. They should be nervous.

darinp2 · 08-10-2007, 02:04 AM

Just in case people are expecting it soon, "Fall" means by about December 21st. Hopefully we'll get more specifics at CEDIA.

--Darin

WickyWoo · 08-10-2007, 02:31 AM

Just keep in mind, that this is merely an A2 or A3 that has had its DACs upgraded and various other tweaks

This is not an original design

The fact that Onkyo was unwilling to spend the $$ to produce one says volumes

scragham · 08-10-2007, 02:39 AM

the price is also telling, especially if the design's based off one of toshiba's players.

this is probably more closely related to the real cost to manufacture one of toshiba's players + reasonable markup.

gand41f · 08-10-2007, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Zuber

The executives at Onkyo must be distressed to see what is happening in the market. Not only is BD outselling HD-DVD, but Toshiba is putting severe price pressure on the hardware side. They should be nervous.

Onkyo is an ex-subsidiary of Toshiba. That's probably how they got talked into this, um, situation. I'm sure Toshiba offered a lot of help with the design and manufacturing process too.

I don't think their optical disc player business is big enough to be really affected by this one way or the other, but they should be concerned from the perception from the growing Blu-ray user base. For instance, I have an Onkyo home theater system now, but when I'm upgrading, I'm choosing another brand because of this.

enjoy
gandalf

PeterTHX · 08-10-2007, 06:01 AM

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Onkyo is an ex-subsidiary of Toshiba

No they are not.
Onkyo's been around for 60 years.

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For instance, I have an Onkyo home theater system now, but when I'm upgrading, I'm choosing another brand because of this.

So you don't buy Warner or Paramount titles?

BTBuck1 · 08-10-2007, 06:22 AM

RCA all over again....One and Done, I gaurantee it!

gand41f · 08-10-2007, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

No they are not.
Onkyo's been around for 60 years.

So you don't buy Warner or Paramount titles?

Trust me, they were. Not a wholly-owned subsidiary, but Toshiba was a major stockholder from 1957 to 1994. (Gandalf checks Wikipedia. Interesting, the English version of Wikipedia doesn't mention it. Quite different from the Japanese version.) It says so on their own company website, if you read Japanese.

As for Warner/Paramount -- well, I don't think those are relevant comparisons but if I have a choice of buying one movie studio and one only, I'd look at Sony or Disney first. I like their commitment to quality.

(Although Paramount is getting there.)

enjoy
gandalf

BLURAYSONYES · 08-10-2007, 02:46 PM

Onkyo decided to take the HDDVD road. The site says "This player has been introduced to realize the potential of high-definition HD DVD content". YEAH RIGHT! Check it out.

http://www.audioholics.com/news/pres...es-hd-dvd.html

-dan

Woody · 08-10-2007, 03:04 PM

Onkyo has said they will (eventually) make a BR player too.

08-10-2007, 02:46 PM	#14
BLURAYSONYES Banned Member since:May 2007 Location:Irvine, CA Blu-ray collection:157	ONKYO makes the wrong choice! Onkyo decided to take the HDDVD road. The site says "This player has been introduced to realize the potential of high-definition HD DVD content". YEAH RIGHT! Check it out. http://www.audioholics.com/news/pres...es-hd-dvd.html -dan

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08-10-2007, 01:36 AM	#2
theknub Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2006	lol @ $900 gotta love the price "advantage"

08-12-2007, 03:58 AM	#4
dingus Junior Member Member since:Jul 2007	onkyo will put out a blu ray player very soon which should be a nice player. They have to much at stake not to. They will want a blu ray player to go along with their receivers.

08-10-2007, 01:37 AM	#5
hyperdine Senior Member Member since:Sep 2006	Onkyo makes good stuff. The only problem here is that HD-DVD keeps pushing the low-price player argument and this definitely doesn't fit that strategy. So much for the "Blu-Ray players are expensive" comments

08-10-2007, 01:46 AM	#6
Rob Zuber Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	The executives at Onkyo must be distressed to see what is happening in the market. Not only is BD outselling HD-DVD, but Toshiba is putting severe price pressure on the hardware side. They should be nervous.

08-10-2007, 02:04 AM	#7
darinp2 Expert Member Member since:May 2007	Just in case people are expecting it soon, "Fall" means by about December 21st. Hopefully we'll get more specifics at CEDIA. --Darin

08-10-2007, 02:31 AM	#8
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	Just keep in mind, that this is merely an A2 or A3 that has had its DACs upgraded and various other tweaks This is not an original design The fact that Onkyo was unwilling to spend the $$ to produce one says volumes

08-10-2007, 02:39 AM	#9
scragham Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007	the price is also telling, especially if the design's based off one of toshiba's players. this is probably more closely related to the real cost to manufacture one of toshiba's players + reasonable markup.

08-10-2007, 06:22 AM	#12
BTBuck1 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Oceanside, CA. Blu-ray collection:507 DVD collection:1	RCA all over again....One and Done, I gaurantee it!

08-10-2007, 03:04 PM	#15
Woody Power Member Member since:Jun 2007 Home Theater Gallery:60 4K collection:175 Blu-ray collection:415 DVD collection:165	Onkyo has said they will (eventually) make a BR player too.

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