Any animé you want in Blu?

[xberserker]

Trigun!
Final Fantasy Advent Children!
All the Hayao Miyazaki movies combined onto 1 or 2 blu-ray disc

[statikcat]

Ya I forgot to mention Trigun. Actually my fav anime! Has some sentimental value of my highschool years back when it was being first released in US.

[WickyWoo]

All the Hayao Miyazaki movies combined onto 1 or 2 blu-ray disc

That will never, ever happen.

[w_tanoto]

Disuni (Disney) no anime (if that counts as one)
all of them

nihongo no anime:

Final Fantasy VII:AC
Spirited away (I expect this in BD, as it is distributed by Walt Disney)
and doraemon and crayon shinchan would be nice

[CptGreedle]

Vampire Hunter D: Blood Lust
Ghibli films (Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle...)
Akira
Ghost in the Shell (both films)
etc.. so many to choose from!

[k20king]

deathnote!

Go Blu-ray!

[WickyWoo]

Disuni (Disney) no anime (if that counts as one)

Disney can't make anime, they're an american company

Anime is made by Japanese for Japanese.

[DaveFi]

As an FYI: Comcast in their HD OnDemand section is currently showing AKIRA (the 2001 remaster) w/DD5.1 sound, and even better yet, it's free! Watch it while it's there.

[BLUpassion]

Berserk, Outlaw Star, Macross Zero, Initial D 4th Stage, Robotech, Zeta and Double Zeta Gundam, Chars Counter, Iria, MD Geist, Golgo 13: The Pro, Original 1988 Aikra dub, Gantz, Record of Lodoss Wars, Black Heaven, X......to name a few....

[WickyWoo]

Berserk, Outlaw Star, Macross Zero, Initial D 4th Stage, Robotech, Zeta and Double Zeta Gundam, Chars Counter, Iria, MD Geist, Golgo 13: The Pro, Original 1988 Aikra dub, Gantz, Record of Lodoss Wars, Black Heaven, X......to name a few....

Virtually all done on 16mm film, and anyone who has seen ZZ Gundam will tell you that you really really don't want to see it.

As far as MD Geist, the director was mystified why anyone would want to buy it nowadays, let alone a special edition

[Count Zero]

All Ghost in the Shell (both movies, SAC 1,2,3). I want these produced in America. I'm not spending $70+ to buy an imported version.

[BLUpassion]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Virtually all done on 16mm film, and anyone who has seen ZZ Gundam will tell you that you really really don't want to see it.

As far as MD Geist, the director was mystified why anyone would want to buy it nowadays, let alone a special edition

Ive seen both Z and ZZ GUndam. i put them up because I do like them. and Geist is just bad ass. I for one, and probably the only one would buy it on BD, along with the Z and ZZ gundam series.

[CptGreedle]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Disney can't make anime, they're an american company

Anime is made by Japanese for Japanese.

I beg to differ. Anime is indeed not an American invention. However it has evolved beyond the boarders of Japan. For instance, many Korean made animations are considered anime and there are even some American productions the use the anime style. These may not truly be anime, but the spirit of anime is often still present.
Also, there are many titles in Japan that are actually not made for the Japanese audience. Many anime were actually designed for foreign western audience, such as Vampire hunter D which was first released in English, and only later was a Japanese language track added, Big O season 2 was made for Cartoon Network because the american fans liked it so much, even classics like Voltron have had seasons made for foreign markets because they diid not make the money they would have if they were solely for a Japanese market. There are also many American shows that were made in Japan, such as Inspector Gadget, which reflect the Japanese anime style but in these cases, were not truly anime.
In short, this discussion is very debatable and I am sure many people would be against what I say. I know that many fans of anime consider only things made in Japan anime (I myself used to think that too). But anime to me has become a style beyond the Japanese market that appeals to people all over the world and the true spirit of anime can lie in animations and comics made anywhere in the world.
However there is something we both agree on, Disney is not anime. However it is also important to know that Japanese anime artists look up to Disney (at least classic Disney if not modern so much). In fact, without Disney cartoons, there may not be any anime at all, since it is Mickey and the gang that inspired many of the founders of manga and anime, and the "Art of Disney" is still considered a staple of animation education in Japan.

[Blu Tiger]

Samurai Champloo
Samurai Seven
Samurai Gun
Gun Grave
Full Metal Alchemist
Full Metal Panic (any)
Witch Hunter Robin
Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
Cowboy Bebop
Outlaw Star
Twelve Kingdoms
Tenjo Tenge
Gunslinger Girl
Trinity Blood
Area 88
Appleseed
Speed Grapher, etc.
Princess Mononoke
Howl's Moving Castle

Lot's more too.

[WickyWoo]

I beg to differ. Anime is indeed not an American invention. However it has evolved beyond the boarders of Japan. For instance, many Korean made animations are considered anime and there are even some American productions the use the anime style. These may not truly be anime, but the spirit of anime is often still present.

The word "anime" in english specifically describes Japanese animation

In Japan. Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse, ALL animation is anime.

Also, there are many titles in Japan that are actually not made for the Japanese audience. Many anime were actually designed for foreign western audience, such as Vampire hunter D which was first released in English

But anime to me has become a style beyond the Japanese market that appeals to people all over the world and the true spirit of anime can lie in animations and comics made anywhere in the world.

Since the true spirit of anime, no matter how long Cartoon Network manages to crush it, lies in the unique cultural and stylistic views of Japanese people, based on their own environment, history and nation, it can be imitated but never duplicated. It's the rare person like the former Scott Frazier who can assimilate so deeply that they are allowed to participate
The sequel was, the original was not. Why? Because a US company (Urban Vision) paid for it. Same with MD Geist 2, same with Big O 2, Ninja Scroll TV and a bunch of others that were not necessarily released in the US first.

By your logic, Transformers, GI Joe, and the majority of 80s cartoons are "anime" because they were animated in Japan, many with great US influence.

even classics like Voltron have had seasons made for foreign markets because they diid not make the money they would have if they were solely for a Japanese market

Are you talking about the 3D Voltron? Completely American invention, as is Robotech: Shadow Chronicles (though apparently they're trying to sell it to Japan as a Mospeada sequel). They paid for some additional animation for the "crossover" episode between GoLion and Dairugger, which did just fine in Japan.

99% of shows made in Japan are designed to go 13 or 26 episodes and then goes away, sequels never come into it. Almost always, it's only the violent shonen repetative crap like DragonBall or Naruto whose plot boil down to "I don't like you, well, I don't like you! Let's fight!" go for hundreds and hundreds of episodes.

What ignorant people who lable any action-adventure show, "anime", or the few Korean or Chinese productions "anime" simply because they're of asian origin just shows ignorance.

[ussrelativity]

Three simple letters.


DBZ

[CptGreedle]

The point is actually that anime is not just Japanese anymore in many people's opinions. Yes it is the origin. Yes the word "anime" comes from the Japanese interpretation of "animation".
But it doesn't really matter. I don't think you should limit anime to only that which is made in Japan. I agree the best anime is still Japanese, but I have seen excellent manwa (Korean version of manga) that I would consider anime. Many now use anime to represent the style, not just animation from Japan. I don't think "ignorance" plays into what someone considers anime.
If something is technically "A" but the majority of people recognize it as "B", the definition will often change. In fact, the dictionary.com definition of anime is "a Japanese style of motion-picture animation, characterized by highly stylized, colorful art, futuristic settings, violence, and sexuality." It says it is a style, not just limited to animation produced in Japan.

Like I said, it is an argument that can be debated. I do not disagree with your view. Anime is, in essence, a Japanese invention, originally influenced by early American animators, taking on a style all it's own with unique character designs and stories. But I do not think we should limit the term to only that which is made in Japan. At least not anymore, ever since it started to become mainstream.

[CptGreedle]

The sequel was, the original was not.

I was referring to the "sequel". It is actually based on the 3rd book in a series of books, while the first movie is based on the first book. They do differ from the books but are stand alone stories and do not specify specific chronological orientation.

By your logic, Transformers, GI Joe, and the majority of 80s cartoons are "anime" because they were animated in Japan, many with great US influence.

By my logic, it is not anime because the spirit or style of anime is not there. They are not designed to be anime in style or form. It is like how you would say something is anime cause it is made in Japan when actually most of the animation is done in Korea cause it's cheaper. In accordance with your definition, it would not be anime even though it is a Japanese invention and story and characters intended for a Japanese audience merely because the animation was done in another country where it was cheaper to produce.
Back in the 80's Japan was the animation grunt work of the world, all cheap animation was made there. Now that anime is so big, Korea has become the animation grunt work of the world.

99% of shows made in Japan are designed to go 13 or 26 episodes and then goes away, sequels never come into it. Almost always, it's only the violent shonen repetative crap like DragonBall or Naruto whose plot boil down to "I don't like you, well, I don't like you! Let's fight!" go for hundreds and hundreds of episodes.

I wouldn't say 99%. There are lots of series that have many seasons. Usually the story is still there, designed to last 2 seasons. Or they take the characters and put them in a new situation, new story (such as Escaflowne with 52 episodes, Magical Knights Rayearth, To Heart, Fushigi Yuugi, etc). True, there are far fewer "sequels" or additional seasons to anime. But it is a cultural thing and I prefer it that way cause it makes a definite story with beginning middle and end rather than an ongoing show with no clear end.

I am not arguing in that Japanese productions are anime, but I just think anime is becoming more of a style than a product of Japan.

[WickyWoo]

It is like how you would say something is anime cause it is made in Japan when actually most of the animation is done in Korea cause it's cheaper

Didn't used to be. Most of the great stuff from the 80s and early 90s was almost entirely done in Japan

In accordance with your definition, it would not be anime even though it is a Japanese invention and story and characters intended for a Japanese audience merely because the animation was done in another country where it was cheaper to produce.

Key animation, story, character design, everything but inbetweening done in Japan by Japanese, intended for the Japanese market.

Back in the 80's Japan was the animation grunt work of the world, all cheap animation was made there. Now that anime is so big, Korea has become the animation grunt work of the world.

Nothing to do with "now that anime is so big", it's that "Hey we can pay Koreans $5000 a year instead of the $8000 the Japanese were making doing this stuff" Is "The Simpsons" Korean since they do ALL the animation for the most part over there?

Or they take the characters and put them in a new situation, new story (such as Escaflowne with 52 episodes, Magical Knights Rayearth, To Heart, Fushigi Yuugi, etc).

Escaflowne has 26 episodes, RayEarth was a manga first, and like many manga based series went multiple seasons because the manga was still going

I am not arguing in that Japanese productions are anime, but I just think anime is becoming more of a style than a product of Japan.

Which is a huge reason why virtually everything made in the last 10 years has been terrible. They're concentrating far more on appealing to America, specifically cartoon network, there's no more daring and different shows, it's all sequels and cookie cutter crap designed to get on Adult Swim.

The Japanese studios were convinced anime had gone mainstream here, so they priced themselves into the stratosphere and made stuff they though twould work on Cartoon Network. It's only now we're seeing the fallout from that. Maybe things will recover, maybe they won't.

[jadafa]

1) There are no "seasons" in Japanese anime. There are only "series" even if the "series" is a lengthy episodic count. The term the Japanese use is "arc" especially for long series over 26 episodes. Each new "series" of anime shows has a different title or sub-title to the name to mark it differently. If you don't see this change in the name, then it is considered only 1 series with several arcs.

2) Escaflowne ended up only with 26 episodes. Slated for 39 episodes but was reduced in episode count when the ratings weren't up to par.

3) Korea effectively doesn't do the animation. They get the brunt work of the in-betweens that no one wants to do in Japan anymore because the work was hard and the pay was lousy. And now, Korea may be too expensive for the Japanese studios and you will now see some in-betweens done in China. Most of the key frames, CGI, character designs, storyboards, script, and the brunt of the concepts and visualization and creation are all done in Japan.

4) Even though Korea and China does animate animation much like the Japanese do and try to imitate the style and format, it's still nowhere close to the true presentation of the Japanese.

5) What separates true anime from the pseudo-anime is what Japanese instills into their anime with their sensibilities and cultural trends and attitudes. Because of the English dubbing, a lot of that is loss on English only listeners and so they can't see a difference. But those who listen to the Japanese track and know their cultural background understand the significance. And it doesn't matter what genre the anime is under, or what ethnicity the characters are, they all follow a Japanese modicum of thinking and ideology.

6) While there are certain **few** "made for US audience first" anime, they are primarily not "series" and are mostly "movies". Your blurb on The Big Oh 2 is incorrect. The series was made with help from American studios...that's true...but the series was shown in Japan first before it came stateside. The so-called "anime" of Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles was a complete joke and lost all the sensibilities that the original Japanese series of Mospeada and Macross had. Although Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust was financed and made for American audience, they kept most of the Japanese modicum of thinking intact, and preserved the way Japanese tell their tales via their mediums, which most Americans find boring, especially in a celluloid medium. The reason, thus, is that they also aimed to sell the movie back in their own home country, so it has to maintain a 100% pure Japanese way of thinking and everything else.