Little Kids + Unknown Dogs - Need Advice

[Rob71]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

As did I!

We had teachers that were famous for their custom-made paddles. Everyone knew NOT to screw-off in Mr. X's class, because his paddle was made out of 3/4" solid oak with holes drilled in it to cut wind resistance. Good times!

I routered the edges of mine. with the holes and the edges rounded(like an airplane wing), it was more aerodynamic. The Dean of Boys at my school really liked to use my paddle whenever he saw me in his office. I named mine "The Minister Of Justice". I think he actually retired it when I graduated.

[Beta Man]

I am fortunate to have really good neighbors, but one of them a couple houses down has a huge house next to him that is being rented out, and the current tenants are terrible...... he put up an 8' "Spite Fence" as he calls it..... as 8' was the maximum building codes would allow..... he had to get the person who owned the house next to him to approve it, but he threatened to make the lives hell for anyone who lived there if she didn't

edit: maybe it's 6' or 7' I thought 8' though

[Rob71]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

I am fortunate to have really good neighbors, but one of them a couple houses down has a huge house next to him that is being rented out, and the current tenants are terrible...... he put up an 8' "Spite Fence" as he calls it..... as 8' was the maximum building codes would allow..... he had to get the person who owned the house next to him to approve it, but he threatened to make the lives hell for anyone who lived there if she didn't

edit: maybe it's 6' or 7' I thought 8' though

I really think that if a landlord rents a home out in a residential neighborhood the surounding neighbors should get a cut. It should be law.

And yes, the house across the street from me is a rental.

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by Rob71

I really think that if a landlord rents a home out in a residential neighborhood the surounding neighbors should get a cut. It should be law.

And yes, the house across the street from me is a rental.

Or at the very least, a say in whether the renters are approved (and remain approved). I've been lucky in not having to deal with any problem renters around me, and most neighbors have all been pretty cool.

[Chordata]

LOL @ you guys trying to rewrite 100s of years of landlord-tenant law.

Some howeowners are just as bad as renters, and some renters are just as good as homeowners.

[Rob71]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

LOL @ you guys trying to rewrite 100s of years of landlord-tenant law.

Some howeowners are just as bad as renters, and some renters are just as good as homeowners.

I used to think just like you. But having cops show up at 3 am and kicking my neighbors door down and pulling a string of "perps" out on multiple occasions(and multiple tennants) made me rethink my position. I think last time they actually ran out of Tie Wraps. On the plus side, one of these days I'll be interviewed on Cops and get my 15 minutes of fame.

[Vicon]

Originally Posted by Rob71

+1

The "kids will be kids" excuse is used by parents who haven't raised their kids. I don't think my parents ever saaid that. Mine usually said "He did what!?" Quickly followed by tracking me down with a belt or other "punishment assisting device". My mom was partial to the Hot Wheel plastic track sections.

This is hilarious. Exactly what my mom used to do. Never an excuse but a "HE DID WHAT!?" prompt and then coming to see me for punishment. Lol. Belt or coat hanger was the "weapon" of choice. Hehe.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by Vicon

This is hilarious. Exactly what my mom used to do. Never an excuse but a "HE DID WHAT!?" prompt and then coming to see me for punishment. Lol. Belt or coat hanger was the "weapon" of choice. Hehe.

That's the kind of parents we are. It's the kind of parents my parents were. It's the kind of parents I hope my daughters become.

Personal responsibility, man. Such an overrated thing these days.

[Vicon]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

That's the kind of parents we are. It's the kind of parents my parents were. It's the kind of parents I hope my daughters become.

Personal responsibility, man. Such an overrated thing these days.

That's the parent I will be someday. Kids raised with manners, self control and common sense. None of this time out crap or "kids will be kids". I will spoil them but they will also realize all the goodies will vanish with bad behavior and punishment will ensue!

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by Vicon

That's the parent I will be someday. Kids raised with manners, self control and common sense. None of this time out crap or "kids will be kids". I will spoil them but they will also realize all the goodies will vanish with bad behavior and punishment will ensue!

Oh, crap, don't get me wrong. We use "time out". Probably daily. I don't hit my kids with tools, but I'll spank them.

My point was that acting out or misbehaving, etc., does not go unnoticed and unpunished in my house.

But the punishment has to be consistent with the crime. If they say "NO, DADDY!" I don't break out the belt and make them cry. But they'll know we don't accept or tolerate that way of speaking, and with time, it doesn't happen again.

Have I hijacked yet another thread?

[Vicon]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

Oh, crap, don't get me wrong. We use "time out". Probably daily. I don't hit my kids with tools, but I'll spank them.

My point was that acting out or misbehaving, etc., does not go unnoticed and unpunished in my house.

But the punishment has to be consistent with the crime. If they say "NO, DADDY!" I don't break out the belt and make them cry. But they'll know we don't accept or tolerate that way of speaking, and with time, it doesn't happen again.

Have I hijacked yet another thread?

Lol. No, I fully understand. I am not going to go around beating my kids either. The punishment will fit the crime.

The bold made me laugh.

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

Oh, crap, don't get me wrong. We use "time out". Probably daily. I don't hit my kids with tools, but I'll spank them.

My point was that acting out or misbehaving, etc., does not go unnoticed and unpunished in my house.

But the punishment has to be consistent with the crime. If they say "NO, DADDY!" I don't break out the belt and make them cry. But they'll know we don't accept or tolerate that way of speaking, and with time, it doesn't happen again.

Have I hijacked yet another thread?

Just waiting for the inevitable rebuttals and whining from the exact "new-age" non-parents being discussed here. I remember a thread last year in which spanking was brought up. It got ugly pretty quick.

BTW, good for you not being part of the problem these days.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Just waiting for the inevitable rebuttals and whining from the exact "new-age" non-parents being discussed here. I remember a thread last year in which spanking was brought up. It got ugly pretty quick.

BTW, good for you not being part of the problem these days.

If my kid is hurting my other kid, someone else, running out into traffic, or otherwise endangering herself or others, I feel a spank is 100% warranted.

If she colors outside the lines, won't eat all her peas, cries, pulls the cat's tail, or talks back to Mommy or Daddy, I feel it's not.

It's my way of parenting and it's not perfect. I'll accept suggestions and criticism from other parents all day long. I want to do the best I can do. But, like you referenced, when a non-parent tries to give me their 0.02 on the issue, it's laughable.

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

If my kid is hurting my other kid, someone else, running out into traffic, or otherwise endangering herself or others, I feel a spank is 100% warranted.

If she colors outside the lines, won't eat all her peas, cries, pulls the cat's tail, or talks back to Mommy or Daddy, I feel it's not.

It's my way of parenting and it's not perfect.

Seriously? You really need to tighten the reigns a little.

[Rob71]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

If they say "NO, DADDY!" I don't break out the belt and make them cry.

I just had a flashback to the scene in Mr. Deeds where he's on the phone with the quarterbacks dad.

[phlydude]

I feel for you - I have had a rental townhouse directly next door to me for the last 4 years or so...(we were almost out when the housing market crashed but are stuck there for a little while)
I was priveleged for a few years with good rental tennants (1 holy man and 1 young professional couple) but the last group in there was a group from hell.

They moved in @ 8:30 on 4/30 2009 - they stopped paying rent around August. They had the water and electricity turned off around Christmas and were finally evicted in January.

They left all kinds of trash and crap behind, had at least 1 rat in their house (how do you get grey city rats living in the country?) and drilled holes in the firewalls and I think they tried to break into my house once because my lockset didn't work one day after I got home from work.

The best part was that they had 3 kids and were pregnant with twins, the father worked for a welding company and parked a huge Ford 550 in the street all the time and he was a drug addict - the wife and him fought and there was always yelling...FUN!!

My 3 dogs HATED those kids who would torment them all the time. We don't have a fenced in yard and when the dogs go out, they are always on a leash. But like OP, my dogs don't know kids and while they are generally OK, their jumping and attempts to give kisses may be perceived as "aggressive". My dog I got from the pound loves to protect us and can be vicous if he is left to his own devices but he is more confused than anything and getting better each time he socializes with more people.

But bravo for telling those kids not to do it..."kids being kids" is this ass' excuse because he wasn't raised properly...what self respecting man walks around with a open container of wine anyway?
I remember as a kid, someone had a dog named Patrick...he barked and scared the sh!+ out of us all the time and once I banged the fence to try to get him to stop...the owner came out and told me that if I did anything like that again, he would put his foot so far up my a$$ that my parents would have to pay a doctor to get it removed...LESSON LEARNED and I did NOT tell my parents about that one!

[browndk26]

You were in the right to tell the kids to back off and the dad to watch his kids.

My kids(now 12 and 16) were taught a long time ago you don't approach a dog you don't know and you don't harass dogs.

[Vicon]

This thread is cracking me up. Lol.

I myself am 30. I was raised to respect others, yes ma'am, yes sir, so on. To this day, when I go shopping for pet supplies and there are dogs on leashes walking around the store. I NEVER go up to a dog and start petting them. Ever. I ask their owners if it's ok to pet them. You never know. The dog may not liked to be touched but is ok otherwise. The owner may not like it. Who knows.

It's just common sense.