Will 80's/90's sticoms ever go Blu-ray? - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

octagon · 10-23-2010, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I always wonder if they would actually do this? An entire season one one disc? A seven season show on 7 Blu-ray disc?

From a practical standpoint that makes perfect sense. From a marketing standpoint it would be a disaster.

People carp when blu-ray extras are SD. Can you imagine the howls if the entire blu were SD?

octagon · 10-23-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by whbinder

AS was mentioned, the few shows shot - and edited - on film can make the transition. Any show shot on video is already maxed out at 480 so putting it on Blu-ray wouldn't do anything except put more episodes on a disc.

For American tv at least film is generally the rule rather than the exception.

Early live variety shows, soaps and that (mostly 70s-ish) spate of sitcoms that were 'shot live on videotape' (and something like The Next Generation where significant post-production was done on video) wouldn't benefit much but there's a ton of archived tv that would be great on blu.

Me? I'm hoping for Columbo someday.

P@t_Mtl · 10-23-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by octagon

From a practical standpoint that makes perfect sense. From a marketing standpoint it would be a disaster.

People carp when blu-ray extras are SD. Can you imagine the howls if the entire blu were SD?

The marketing point is why I sort of think they never would go that way.

nolfoc · 10-23-2010, 09:33 PM

i heard something about friends being in the works.. but who knows if we will ever see saved by the bell, full house, fresh prince, etc

Rinzler · 10-23-2010, 09:37 PM

Would 16mm shows/films benefit from blu treatment? I was wondering about a couple of shows that I know for a fact are shot on that format. The film format is less wide than 16:9 but wider than 4:3 and current releases of one show in particular has DVD releases in 1:33:1 but a little detail could be lost on the top and bottom, and a little could be gained on the sides in cropping to 16:9. Also, could a mod change the title from sticoms to sitcoms?

Hatter · 10-23-2010, 09:42 PM

As someone said, there won't be any incentive to do this until blu-ray dominates the market share and is very cheap to produce - at which point they'll be a new format. You've got to take the plunge at some point to buy. Why not just get the dvd's now. The discs are cheap and look good enough or better than they did during their initial run. The cast aren't going to wait around forever or do new commentaries or such everytime it's rereleased.

Take the show LEXX. Why wait for blu-ray copies if they ever come for a show that'll hardly benefit from it when dvd seasons which were recently made available again are $14.99.

PrinceLH · 10-23-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JackStraw

The Wonder Years has been on my wishlist forever, but that'll never happen due to all of the music copyrights that would have to be dealt with.

You mean like WKRP in Cincinnati. Season 1, on DVD, was a disaster, with many of the great music tracks removed. It killed some of the mood, on certain episodes, due to a generic track being substituted at the wrong time.

JaseT · 10-23-2010, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceLH

You mean like WKRP in Cincinnati. Season 1, on DVD, was a disaster, with many of the great music tracks removed. It killed some of the mood, on certain episodes, due to a generic track being substituted at the wrong time.

That's the same problem that Hunter has.

KubrickFan · 10-23-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HDMe

Only the ones shot on film would be of any value to have on Blu anyway... and I'm not sure how many comedies were shot on film.

We know Seinfeld was... that's how they are getting good transfers in HD now (though I wish they would have left them 4:3).

IF a show was shot on film, then I'm all for releasing on Blu... of course there has to be demand for it.

But the shows that weren't... shot on film that is... I see no real point in doing so.

The Seinfeld DVDs used the same HD remasters, so if they ever get released, they will be in its original ratio of 1.33:1.

JackStraw · 10-23-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PrinceLH

You mean like WKRP in Cincinnati. Season 1, on DVD, was a disaster, with many of the great music tracks removed. It killed some of the mood, on certain episodes, due to a generic track being substituted at the wrong time.

I remember canceling my preorder the moment I found out they were using the syndicated version and not the original with the old music intact.

bboisvert · 10-23-2010, 10:40 PM

I think we have a long, long, looooong wait for decent TV representation on blu unfortunately.

Even some *current* shows aren't getting decent treatment (*cough*Damages*cough*).

As penetration increases (and the numbers are looking great so far), we'll start to see some high-profile stuff like Seinfeld and Friends. Probably MASH. But I wouldn't expect to see much...

(I hope I'm wrong!)

Clark Kent · 10-23-2010, 11:14 PM

Most sitcoms from the 70s through the early 2000s will never make it to Blu-ray. The vast majority were edited on videotape and only exist at that resolution in the archives of the major studios that own them. Studios are even skipping DVD releases for content of this type, directly moving to streaming or downloads.

HDMe · 10-24-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by octagon

From a practical standpoint that makes perfect sense. From a marketing standpoint it would be a disaster.

People carp when blu-ray extras are SD. Can you imagine the howls if the entire blu were SD?

Yeah, the marketing confusion would be a nightmare... Enough people complain about poor HD transfers, so imagine the outcry if SD shows were stuck on Blu just to do it.

That said... IF DVD ever completely dies... I could see some old shows released on Blu just because it might one day become cheaper to press a couple of Blu-rays than 6-7 DVDs if they went into mass-production and eliminated the DVD media entirely.

That day is a long way off though.

RudyC · 10-24-2010, 01:24 AM

wasnt simpsons season 13 recently done?

btw anyone think laura from family matters got freakin fine as hell towards the end of ther show?

Alpha Sixx · 10-24-2010, 01:39 AM

I want Alf, Small Wonder and Out of This World

antoinedoinel · 10-24-2010, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

aside from being in a crappy aspect ratio

Pfft. Widescreen is only good for snakes and funerals.

I'm all for TV on blu, but its kind of like opening Pandora's box. We all go on about how blu-ray is great because its closer to the theatre experience, and how it should be seen. TV on blu would be the opposite of that, since the vast majority of it was meant to only be seen on 1.33 SD TV's.

It's going to be interesting to see how they deal with it.

Maggot · 10-24-2010, 03:39 AM

I think it's a safe bet MASH will make it out. It was shot on film and was an incredibly popular and acclaimed series. I would love for WKRP to happen, but it's not gonna considering what happened with the DVD. Was WKRP even shot on film? Star Trek The Next Generation has a shot, but it all depends on how much it's gonna cost to reassemble and how much Trek fans are willing to pay per season. I would love to see St. Elsewhere, but that only got 1 DVD season and then nothing ever since. Gilligan's Island, would be a fun guilty pleasure, but I doubt it would make it either. I'm actually rather surprised and elated that Space 1999 is coming though.

HD Goofnut · 10-24-2010, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Maggot

I think it's a safe bet MASH will make it out. It was shot on film and was an incredibly popular and acclaimed series. I would love for WKRP to happen, but it's not gonna considering what happened with the DVD. Was WKRP even shot on film? Star Trek The Next Generation has a shot, but it all depends on how much it's gonna cost to reassemble and how much Trek fans are willing to pay per season. I would love to see St. Elsewhere, but that only got 1 DVD season and then nothing ever since. Gilligan's Island, would be fun guilty pleasure, but I doubt it would make it either. I'm actually rather surprised and elated that Space 1999 is coming though.

Space 1999 was shot on 35mm at 1.33:1 so it will definitely benefit from the BD treatment.

ArmyOfDarknessAW · 10-24-2010, 03:49 AM

I would breakdown in tears of happines if we got Buffy, Angel, Charmed, and X-Files on Blu. I would even be happy with just having entire seasons on 1 disc.

Atreyu · 10-24-2010, 03:52 AM

Any television show shot on film will definately benefit. Count me out on the videotaped shows which I believe are all the Norman Lear hits from the 70's. I used to have some of these on standard dvd and even those looked horrendous.
Yes it will be many years before a lot of TV shows see the light of day on blu. Blu has to become more popular first. I have two seasons each of M*A*S*H and Seinfeld but will not buy more because I feel these would be some of the first ones to hit blu. Also I want Two And A Half Men.
My favorite show, The Munsters, but seeing Herman and Grandpa on high resolution blu??? alas it's just a pipe dream for the time being.

10-23-2010, 09:33 PM	#24
nolfoc Banned Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 108 Trading Score:49	i heard something about friends being in the works.. but who knows if we will ever see saved by the bell, full house, fresh prince, etc

10-23-2010, 09:37 PM	#25
Rinzler Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 4K collection:26 Blu-ray collection:919 DVD collection:142 Trading Score:1	Would 16mm shows/films benefit from blu treatment? I was wondering about a couple of shows that I know for a fact are shot on that format. The film format is less wide than 16:9 but wider than 4:3 and current releases of one show in particular has DVD releases in 1:33:1 but a little detail could be lost on the top and bottom, and a little could be gained on the sides in cropping to 16:9. Also, could a mod change the title from sticoms to sitcoms?

10-23-2010, 09:42 PM	#26
Hatter Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Montreal, Canada 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:107 DVD collection:82 iTunes collection:2	As someone said, there won't be any incentive to do this until blu-ray dominates the market share and is very cheap to produce - at which point they'll be a new format. You've got to take the plunge at some point to buy. Why not just get the dvd's now. The discs are cheap and look good enough or better than they did during their initial run. The cast aren't going to wait around forever or do new commentaries or such everytime it's rereleased. Take the show LEXX. Why wait for blu-ray copies if they ever come for a show that'll hardly benefit from it when dvd seasons which were recently made available again are $14.99.

10-23-2010, 10:40 PM	#31
bboisvert Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Blu-ray collection:1368 DVD collection:10 Trading Score:5	I think we have a long, long, looooong wait for decent TV representation on blu unfortunately. Even some current shows aren't getting decent treatment (coughDamagescough). As penetration increases (and the numbers are looking great so far), we'll start to see some high-profile stuff like Seinfeld and Friends. Probably MASH. But I wouldn't expect to see much... (I hope I'm wrong!)

10-23-2010, 11:14 PM	#32
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	Most sitcoms from the 70s through the early 2000s will never make it to Blu-ray. The vast majority were edited on videotape and only exist at that resolution in the archives of the major studios that own them. Studios are even skipping DVD releases for content of this type, directly moving to streaming or downloads.

10-24-2010, 01:24 AM	#34
RudyC Special Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Los Angeles 4K collection:102 Blu-ray collection:642 DVD collection:62 Blu-ray reviews:124 Trading Score:1	wasnt simpsons season 13 recently done? btw anyone think laura from family matters got freakin fine as hell towards the end of ther show?

10-24-2010, 01:39 AM	#35
Alpha Sixx Senior Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Originally Houston Tx, Now living in Hawaii! Home Theater Gallery:97	I want Alf, Small Wonder and Out of This World

10-24-2010, 03:39 AM	#37
Maggot Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2009 Location:United States 4K collection:638 Blu-ray collection:1340 DVD collection:49 Blu-ray reviews:81	I think it's a safe bet MASH will make it out. It was shot on film and was an incredibly popular and acclaimed series. I would love for WKRP to happen, but it's not gonna considering what happened with the DVD. Was WKRP even shot on film? Star Trek The Next Generation has a shot, but it all depends on how much it's gonna cost to reassemble and how much Trek fans are willing to pay per season. I would love to see St. Elsewhere, but that only got 1 DVD season and then nothing ever since. Gilligan's Island, would be a fun guilty pleasure, but I doubt it would make it either. I'm actually rather surprised and elated that Space 1999 is coming though.

10-24-2010, 03:49 AM	#39
ArmyOfDarknessAW Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Moosic, PA Home Theater Gallery:21 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:64	I would breakdown in tears of happines if we got Buffy, Angel, Charmed, and X-Files on Blu. I would even be happy with just having entire seasons on 1 disc.

10-24-2010, 03:52 AM	#40
Atreyu Blu-ray Knight Member since:Dec 2008 Location:North Carolina 4K collection:370 Blu-ray collection:1876 DVD collection:619 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 293 Trading Score:4	Any television show shot on film will definately benefit. Count me out on the videotaped shows which I believe are all the Norman Lear hits from the 70's. I used to have some of these on standard dvd and even those looked horrendous. Yes it will be many years before a lot of TV shows see the light of day on blu. Blu has to become more popular first. I have two seasons each of MAS*H and Seinfeld but will not buy more because I feel these would be some of the first ones to hit blu. Also I want Two And A Half Men. My favorite show, The Munsters, but seeing Herman and Grandpa on high resolution blu??? alas it's just a pipe dream for the time being.

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