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sj001 · 10-15-2007, 02:09 PM

I can't wait until next Friday when Blu-ray stomps HD-DVD into the ground... Transformers is going down baby!

Nicadian · 10-15-2007, 02:16 PM

I am glad that blu ray is killing hd dvd in amazon.com. I hope that pirates overtake transformers. I just read the review in hidef digest on transformers of course almost perfect. My question is how can you give 5 stars to hidef sound is if don't have true hd or pcm only just dolby digital plus?

bracke said this "Note that although I'm giving this audio mix five stars, that doesn't mean I agree with Paramount's decision to forgo high-res audio on this title. Without a TrueHD or PCM mix to compare this one to, there's no way of telling how much better such a track might have been, but based on the upgrade I've seen with other titles, I'm guessing a high-res mix could well have trounced this one. That's not to take anything away from this truly exceptional mix, but this is one case where I think you truly can improve upon perfection"

then he should not given the sound 5 stars because is not Hd soound. Hd sound is True HD, DTD HD MA or PCM.

Blu-Light · 10-15-2007, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicadian

I am glad that blu ray is killing hd dvd in amazon.com. I hope that pirates overtake transformers. I just read the review in hidef digest on transformers of course almost perfect. My question is how can you give 5 stars to hidef sound is if don't have true hd or pcm only just dolby digital plus?

bracke said this "Note that although I'm giving this audio mix five stars, that doesn't mean I agree with Paramount's decision to forgo high-res audio on this title. Without a TrueHD or PCM mix to compare this one to, there's no way of telling how much better such a track might have been, but based on the upgrade I've seen with other titles, I'm guessing a high-res mix could well have trounced this one. That's not to take anything away from this truly exceptional mix, but this is one case where I think you truly can improve upon perfection"

then he should not given the sound 5 stars because is not Hd soound. Hd sound is True HD, DTD HD MA or PCM.

Wow that guy is such a shill for HD-DUD. Simply amazing. Sure, what ever.

PrinceLH · 10-15-2007, 02:26 PM

Wouldn't it be funny if FOX decided to to a 2 for 1 next week and Sony decided to do the same, the week after? HD DUD would be in ruins, but so would my bank account!

micks_address · 10-15-2007, 02:28 PM

such absolute wank.. Paramount said they picked HD DVD cause they didnt need the extra capacity of blue ray.. then they openly admit this:

"
Indeed, I had the opportunity to attend a special 'Transformers' media event with Paramount late last week, and the question was asked almost immediately -- why no Dolby TrueHD or uncompressed PCM? The studio's answer was that due to space limitations on the disc, the decision was made to limit the audio to Dolby Digital-Plus 5.1 Surround only (here at 1.5mbps). Unfortunately, this confirms the long-held theory that the 30Gb capacity of an HD-30 dual-layer HD DVD disc has forced studios to choose between offering a robust supplements package (as they've done here) and the very best in audio quality. "

such a bunch of ball washing bastards.. if we had a blue ray release it would have had at least a dolby true hd track if not PCM..

WickyWoo · 10-15-2007, 02:42 PM

Everyone was invited to the TF event at Paramount. It was not a "stroke the shills" thing

Junkets like that are SOP for a big title

atomik kinder · 10-15-2007, 02:44 PM

Everyone keeps looking at Amazon and Blu-ray is doing great. And then people say, that Amazon sales don't really matter much on the Nielson rankings, but, everyone must also remember that these sales are also going on at Target, Best Buy, Circuit City and a few others. So, it is not just Amazon. Did anyone else notice that the Sale is not going on at places that are not counted in the Nielsen rankings? I haven't heard of a sale going on at Wal-Mart or dvdempire.com or dvdplanet.com or any of those other places. Has anyone seen these sales anywhere else? Looks like Disney and Sony want them to really count!

w_tanoto · 10-15-2007, 02:49 PM

pirates is going up one to rank 8 (still rank 2 in HDM)

Steverhcp02 · 10-15-2007, 02:52 PM

Dont forget, although amazon figures arent a great way to extrapolate data...this BOGOF deal is at Best Buy as well....which sells THE MOST HDM......so we actually can expect this to be very large in next weeks rankings. amazon was, what, 4th or something in the report.....so you have to think that less people are buying discs at amazon on the whole, which means if Bd is destroying HD DVD on amazon we should expect it to be the same in B&M.

ryoohki · 10-15-2007, 03:05 PM

There's a 2:1 for Disney Title NationWide, including Amazon.com That's why..

Deadster · 10-15-2007, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u_nick

I didnt enjoy PotC 2, but I'm thinking about ordering it just to hurt HDDVD this week.

I didn't enjoy it either, but I bought it cause it's half price, it will go with my Pirates 1, t's supposed to have the best PQ, and I think I was in a bad mood when I watched it originally. I checked it out last night, it did look really nice. Oh yeah, and Keira being in the movie doesn't hurt.

davidPS3 · 10-15-2007, 04:04 PM

I don't know about anyone else, but i ask myself how is it that HD-DVD can keep going. The beating they are taking world wide, the beating they are taking here in the states and the beating they are about to endure here and else where with the holiday releases!

Throw in the towel PLEASE!

Sonny · 10-15-2007, 04:18 PM

There finished but nobody told the DuDer's

pedigree · 10-15-2007, 04:23 PM

its working tho... theres a flood to buy bu rays now even from people i know who dont even own bd players. i just ordered 4 for one of my friends who wants to give them as christmas presents along with 8 i ordered. convinced her to get them now lol

BillCable · 10-15-2007, 04:24 PM

One thing to consider before getting too excited about these numbers... the gap between the #5 title and the #8 title could be HUGE. #5 could have sold 30,000 copies, and #8 just 5,000. The disparity could be even larger than that. Now if Pirates gets above TF, that'd be extremely significant. But as long as it's ranked lower you should assume a big gap in total sales.

It's possible the cumulative effects of all these sales will overtake TF, but I still don't fell it's likely. TF will probably sell 100K copies all by itself. Given the small volume of HD sales, that's a big number to overcome.

w_tanoto · 10-15-2007, 04:30 PM

pirates is going up again. this time 7 and 8

Walken · 10-15-2007, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadster

I didn't enjoy it either, but I bought it cause it's half price, it will go with my Pirates 1, t's supposed to have the best PQ, and I think I was in a bad mood when I watched it originally. I checked it out last night, it did look really nice. Oh yeah, and Keira being in the movie doesn't hurt.

I agree that Pirates 2 was not all that great, but I really enjoyed it on blu. The visual quality is outstanding as you said but the audio just about had me in tears at times. I swear I could count each rain drop from the wedding in the begining. Oh yea and lets not forget the KRAKEN!

Ron_Mexico81 · 10-15-2007, 05:15 PM

If Transformers is 1 and Pirates is 2, what does the 5 on Transformers and 9 on Pirates mean?

Thank You!

w_tanoto · 10-15-2007, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron_Mexico81

If Transformers is 1 and Pirates is 2, what does the 5 on Transformers and 9 on Pirates mean?

Thank You!

average ranking on amazon afaik

venusiansky · 10-15-2007, 05:23 PM

I put in my order at Amazon for POTC 1 & 2. I wasn't going to buy these cause I heard that the movies were just OK and not really worth buying (I haven't seen either yet). When I saw the Disney offer, I figured what the heck, gotta be worth it for that.

10-15-2007, 02:16 PM	#22
Nicadian Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Canada	If it is the wrong thread i am posting sorry I am glad that blu ray is killing hd dvd in amazon.com. I hope that pirates overtake transformers. I just read the review in hidef digest on transformers of course almost perfect. My question is how can you give 5 stars to hidef sound is if don't have true hd or pcm only just dolby digital plus? bracke said this "Note that although I'm giving this audio mix five stars, that doesn't mean I agree with Paramount's decision to forgo high-res audio on this title. Without a TrueHD or PCM mix to compare this one to, there's no way of telling how much better such a track might have been, but based on the upgrade I've seen with other titles, I'm guessing a high-res mix could well have trounced this one. That's not to take anything away from this truly exceptional mix, but this is one case where I think you truly can improve upon perfection" then he should not given the sound 5 stars because is not Hd soound. Hd sound is True HD, DTD HD MA or PCM.

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10-15-2007, 02:09 PM	#21
sj001 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Rochester, NY Blu-ray collection:317 DVD collection:17 Trading Score:5	I can't wait until next Friday when Blu-ray stomps HD-DVD into the ground... Transformers is going down baby!

10-15-2007, 02:26 PM	#24
PrinceLH Senior Member Member since:Jul 2007	Wouldn't it be funny if FOX decided to to a 2 for 1 next week and Sony decided to do the same, the week after? HD DUD would be in ruins, but so would my bank account!

10-15-2007, 02:28 PM	#25
micks_address Special Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Dublin Blu-ray collection:156 Trading Score:2	such absolute wank.. Paramount said they picked HD DVD cause they didnt need the extra capacity of blue ray.. then they openly admit this: " Indeed, I had the opportunity to attend a special 'Transformers' media event with Paramount late last week, and the question was asked almost immediately -- why no Dolby TrueHD or uncompressed PCM? The studio's answer was that due to space limitations on the disc, the decision was made to limit the audio to Dolby Digital-Plus 5.1 Surround only (here at 1.5mbps). Unfortunately, this confirms the long-held theory that the 30Gb capacity of an HD-30 dual-layer HD DVD disc has forced studios to choose between offering a robust supplements package (as they've done here) and the very best in audio quality. " such a bunch of ball washing bastards.. if we had a blue ray release it would have had at least a dolby true hd track if not PCM..

10-15-2007, 02:42 PM	#26
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	Everyone was invited to the TF event at Paramount. It was not a "stroke the shills" thing Junkets like that are SOP for a big title

10-15-2007, 02:44 PM	#27
atomik kinder Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Omaha NE 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	Everyone keeps looking at Amazon and Blu-ray is doing great. And then people say, that Amazon sales don't really matter much on the Nielson rankings, but, everyone must also remember that these sales are also going on at Target, Best Buy, Circuit City and a few others. So, it is not just Amazon. Did anyone else notice that the Sale is not going on at places that are not counted in the Nielsen rankings? I haven't heard of a sale going on at Wal-Mart or dvdempire.com or dvdplanet.com or any of those other places. Has anyone seen these sales anywhere else? Looks like Disney and Sony want them to really count!

10-15-2007, 02:49 PM	#28
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	pirates is going up one to rank 8 (still rank 2 in HDM)

10-15-2007, 02:52 PM	#29
Steverhcp02 Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Dont forget, although amazon figures arent a great way to extrapolate data...this BOGOF deal is at Best Buy as well....which sells THE MOST HDM......so we actually can expect this to be very large in next weeks rankings. amazon was, what, 4th or something in the report.....so you have to think that less people are buying discs at amazon on the whole, which means if Bd is destroying HD DVD on amazon we should expect it to be the same in B&M.

10-15-2007, 03:05 PM	#30
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	There's a 2:1 for Disney Title NationWide, including Amazon.com That's why..

10-15-2007, 04:04 PM	#32
davidPS3 Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Seattle	I don't know about anyone else, but i ask myself how is it that HD-DVD can keep going. The beating they are taking world wide, the beating they are taking here in the states and the beating they are about to endure here and else where with the holiday releases! Throw in the towel PLEASE!

10-15-2007, 04:18 PM	#33
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	There finished but nobody told the DuDer's

10-15-2007, 04:23 PM	#34
pedigree Power Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Montreal, Canada	its working tho... theres a flood to buy bu rays now even from people i know who dont even own bd players. i just ordered 4 for one of my friends who wants to give them as christmas presents along with 8 i ordered. convinced her to get them now lol

10-15-2007, 04:24 PM	#35
BillCable Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1	One thing to consider before getting too excited about these numbers... the gap between the #5 title and the #8 title could be HUGE. #5 could have sold 30,000 copies, and #8 just 5,000. The disparity could be even larger than that. Now if Pirates gets above TF, that'd be extremely significant. But as long as it's ranked lower you should assume a big gap in total sales. It's possible the cumulative effects of all these sales will overtake TF, but I still don't fell it's likely. TF will probably sell 100K copies all by itself. Given the small volume of HD sales, that's a big number to overcome.

10-15-2007, 04:30 PM	#36
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	pirates is going up again. this time 7 and 8

10-15-2007, 05:15 PM	#38
Ron_Mexico81 Member Member since:Oct 2007	If Transformers is 1 and Pirates is 2, what does the 5 on Transformers and 9 on Pirates mean? Thank You!

10-15-2007, 05:23 PM	#40
venusiansky Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Pittsburgh, PA Home Theater Gallery:7 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:74 DVD collection:8 Blu-ray reviews:11 Trading Score:1	I put in my order at Amazon for POTC 1 & 2. I wasn't going to buy these cause I heard that the movies were just OK and not really worth buying (I haven't seen either yet). When I saw the Disney offer, I figured what the heck, gotta be worth it for that.

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