2015 Film Discussions & Rankings Thread

[Darth Marcus]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

No, it's in fact a great comparison. Did you see Oogieloves, or did you make up your mind without actually seeing it? If you didn't see, then you, too, are guilty of bad practice.

To be honest I had never even heard of it until your post, which is why I called it a bad comparison. I really don't see how a little-known children's film from the man who produced the Teletubbies - I IMDb-ed it - has any relevance to sequels of films in mainstream popular entertainment, or why it has any relevance to your claim on why you know you won't like the new Star Wars installment, etc. You would have even been better off saying "I didn't like the prequels, therefore..." as opposed to bringing up Oogieloves. But if I can find the time and find it on Netflix or some other form of streaming, I'll give it a shot.

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

I practice realism, and it is indeed cool. Avoiding unrealistic expectations leads to fewer unncessary disappointments. And, yes, I will discount the same creative team behind the first. This is coming too soon, and there are too many movies in this franchise (and meta-franchise) already. There are very few franchises which can have even two quality installments, let alone three, let alone more, and, as far as I know, no superhero would even come close to qualifying. There simply isn't enough depth when you're dealing with adaptations of man-children's toys about (ridiculously) costumed vigilantes who are too pus*y to kill the bad guys. They got lucky with the Cap sub-series, as I noted, but even there, I doubt Cap 3 will be any good. Iron Man as quality film franchised bowed out after 1 installment, there simply wasn't enough depth beyond "man in metal suit fights" to allow for any installments besides the first. Thor probably could've been a good movie, but they apparently hired duds intead of writers, and cast possibly the least likeable lead actor in Hollywood history for the laed. So that sub-series was sunk before it even got off the ground.

Heck, even outside MCU, look at X-Men. One good movie, and then junk. Then a completely seperate sub-series had what amounted to a really great movie (First Class), but then even that had a sequel, and it was bad. Two seperate Batman sub-series have completely fallen apart after the second installment. There's simply too much evidence out there for me to dismiss it as an incredibly coincidence.

So, yeah, my expectations are tempered.

Being optimistic is not an unrealistic expectation. Walking into, say, Ant-Man and expecting it to be the best, or one of the best, comic-book films ever is an unrealistic expectation (given its troubled production history). And I absolutely disagree on every other point of your argument. Age of Ultron is coming three years after The Avengers, giving Joss Whedon plenty of time to write a good script and plan for his direction in this next installment. It's not coming too soon. And there have been plenty of franchises that have had more than two quality installments, some of which I would argue are listed in your quote above. And why do you consider heroes pussies if they don't kill the bad guys? Crime deserves punishment, and I don't see that in death, but that's a whole other political discussion for a different thread.

[Al_The_Strange]

Looking forward to all of these suckers:
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Avengers: Age of Ultron: Should be a no-brainer.

Blackhat: I think it looks cool and interesting. I wonder how it'll compare to a movie like Heat.

Furious 7: With the way Furious 6 ended, I have to see this now!

The Hateful Eight: Tarantino + Westerns = a match made in heaven.

Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 2: Bound to have all the excitement that Part 1 was missing.

Inside Out: I hope Pixar will get its groove back. If nothing else though, the movie looks amusing.

Jupiter Ascending: Oh frakk yeah, this looks like my kind of movie. I don't care what haters say, the Watchowskis haven't failed me yet.

Jurassic World: Believe it or not, I do believe this could suck.

Kingsman: The Secret Service: Looks like pure Matthew Vaughn; it should be superb.

Mad Max: Fury Road: Looks brutal and thrilling. Should be a blast.

Mission Impossible 5: Why not? I enjoyed the others, more or less.

Mortdecai: Could be stereotypical and kinda stupid, but it does look charming and funny at the same time.

Seventh Son: Could be generic, but it at least looks like fun.

Spectre (007): I'm a Bond fan. A James Bond fan. I have to see this.

Terminator: Genysis: I'm also a shameless Terminator fan, so this will be a must-see for me too. I can't deny that the trailer looks really cheeky, but so far it looks like the movie itself is saying "f&*k it, let's have some fun."

Tomorrowland: Brad Bird does adventure very well, and this film looks like no exception.

Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens: Oh no. A lightsaber with a crossguard? My childhood is ruined! This movie will suck!

[Show spoiler]Nah, f*#k the haters, it's going to be great.

[Astro Zombie]

2015 is the year of Kurt Russell:

Furious 7
The Hateful Eight
Bone Tomahawk

Everyone else best get out of the way.

[Infernal King]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

No, it's in fact a great comparison. Did you see Oogieloves, or did you make up your mind without actually seeing it? If you didn't see, then you, too, are guilty of bad practice.


I practice realism, and it is indeed cool. Avoiding unrealistic expectations leads to fewer unncessary disappointments. And, yes, I will discount the same creative team behind the first. This is coming too soon, and there are too many movies in this franchise (and meta-franchise) already. There are very few franchises which can have even two quality installments, let alone three, let alone more, and, as far as I know, no superhero would even come close to qualifying. There simply isn't enough depth when you're dealing with adaptations of man-children's toys about (ridiculously) costumed vigilantes who are too pus*y to kill the bad guys. They got lucky with the Cap sub-series, as I noted, but even there, I doubt Cap 3 will be any good. Iron Man as quality film franchised bowed out after 1 installment, there simply wasn't enough depth beyond "man in metal suit fights" to allow for any installments besides the first. Thor probably could've been a good movie, but they apparently hired duds intead of writers, and cast possibly the least likeable lead actor in Hollywood history for the laed. So that sub-series was sunk before it even got off the ground.

Heck, even outside MCU, look at X-Men. One good movie, and then junk. Then a completely seperate sub-series had what amounted to a really great movie (First Class), but then even that had a sequel, and it was bad. Two seperate Batman sub-series have completely fallen apart after the second installment. There's simply too much evidence out there for me to dismiss it as an incredibly coincidence.

So, yeah, my expectations are tempered.

You could have just said "most sequels are not as good as the original and the third film in a comic book series is never any good".

[DanTheMan]

Originally Posted by Astro Zombie

2015 is the year of Kurt Russell:

Furious 7
The Hateful Eight
Bone Tomahawk

Everyone else best get out of the way.

You mean kinda like how 2014 was the year of Cameron Diaz?

The Other Woman
Sex Tape
Annie

^^Look how that turned out for her.

[Jasonic]

Originally Posted by dantheman89

You mean kinda like how 2014 was the year of Cameron Diaz?

The Other Woman
Sex Tape
Annie

^^Look how that turned out for her.

Except none of those were made by Quentin Tarantino. Already will make Russell's year better by a large margin.

[SlipcoverLover]

January's wide releases all look terrible.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about the new Star Wars?

[Astro Zombie]

Originally Posted by dantheman89

You mean kinda like how 2014 was the year of Cameron Diaz?

The Other Woman
Sex Tape
Annie

^^Look how that turned out for her.

Man, Diaz really did have a shitty year. Though I did enjoy The Other Woman a bit.

Kurt wins by default

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by SlipcoverLover

January's wide releases all look terrible.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about the new Star Wars?

Probably not the only one in the world.

[Jasonic]

January is always a terrible month. I think it has a chance to be decent this time though. As far as new movies (not counting award season leftovers), Blackhat looks good and Taken 3 may be good. I don't expect much from Mortdecai, but it could surprise me.

[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by SlipcoverLover

January's wide releases all look terrible.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about the new Star Wars?

Nope. If I won tix, I might go see it (though I'd probably give the tickets to someone who actually cared). But there is no way in hell I'd pay to go see it.

Originally Posted by Astro Zombie

Man, Diaz really did have a shitty year. Though I did enjoy The Other Woman a bit.

Kurt wins by default

Yeah, I actually liked The Other Woman. It's not great, or anything. But I found it entertaining. Then again, I'll watch pretty much anything with Leslie Mann.

[Kevin Holly]

Originally Posted by SlipcoverLover

Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about the new Star Wars?

Nope.

Even if it was some kind of great franchise, I would still be skeptical of this ressurection. But given the previous films, I'll honestly be happy if I leave the theatre not angry.

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

Nope.

Even if it was some kind of great franchise, I would still be skeptical of this ressurection. But given the previous films, I'll honestly be happy if I leave the theatre not angry.

Why even go see it?

[Kevin Holly]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

Why even go see it?

I'm a fan of film. When people discuss film of 2015, that will come up frequently. I don't want to seem ignorant.

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

I'm a fan of film. When people discuss film of 2015, that will come up frequently. I don't want to seem ignorant.

Ah, well fair enough. It's your choice of course, it's just personally I see no point in seeing a film you're almost guaranteed to dislike.

[Xenia]

Bring on Spectre Star Wars and Avengers 2 please.

[Jacob Anderson]

Want to See:
Jan 23rd Mommy
Feb 20th Wild Tales
Apr 02nd Furious 7
Jul 24th Phoenix
Aug 02nd The Diary of a Teenage Girl
Nov 06th Brooklyn
Dec 30th Anomalisa
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Watched:

1. (4.3) Jurassic World**
2. (4.3) Avengers: Age of Ultron*
3. (4.2) The Martian*
4. (4.2) Ant-Man*
5. (4.1) Creed*
6. (4.1) The Night Before*
7. (4.0) Star Wars: The Force Awakens*
8. (4.0) Mad Max: Fury Road*
9. (4.0) Southpaw*
10. (3.9) The Hateful Eight*
11. (3.9) Kingsman: The Secret Service*
12. (3.8) Ted 2*
13. (3.7) Trainwreck*
14. (3.7) Spy*
15. (3.7) Get Hard*
16. (3.6) Straight Outta Compton*
17. (3.6) The Revenant*
18. (3.6) Mission: Impossible Rogue Nation*
19. (3.6) Chappie*
20. (3.5) The Big Short*
21. (3.5) Turbo Kid
22. (3.5) The Final Girls
23. (3.5) Ex Machina*
24. (3.4) Room*
25. (3.4) Dope*
26. (3.4) The Voices
27. (3.4) Entourage*
28. (3.3) Steve Jobs
29. (3.3) Inside Out*
30. (3.3) Infinitely Polar Bear
31. (3.3) Daddy's Home*
32. (3.3) Bone Tomahawk
33. (3.3) 99 Homes
34. (3.3) The Visit
35. (3.3) Unfriended
36. (3.3) McFarland USA
37. (3.3) Predestination
38. (3.2) Me & Earl & the Dying Girl
39. (3.2) Mississippi Grind
40. (3.2) The End of the Tour
41. (3.2) The Gift*
42. (3.2) The DUFF
43. (3.2) The Walk*
44. (3.2) What We Do in the Shadows
45. (3.2) '71
46. (3.2) Bridge of Spies*
47. (3.1) Spotlight*
48. (3.1) It Follows*
49. (3.1) San Andreas
50. (3.1) The Wedding Ringer
51. (3.1) While We're Young
52. (3.1) Tangerine
53. (3.1) The Overnight
54. (3.1) Black Sea
55. (3.1) Black Mass*
56. (3.1) Vacation*
57. (3.1) American Ultra*
58. (3.0) Crimson Peak*
59. (3.0) Love & Mercy*
60. (3.0) Hot Tub Time Machine 2
61. (3.0) Z for Zachariah
62. (3.0) Project Almanac
63. (3.0) Terminator: Genisys*
64. (3.0) Slow West
65. (2.9) Goodnight Mommy
66. (2.9) Carol*
67. (2.9) Zombeavers
68. (2.8) Sicario*
69. (2.6) Clouds of Sils Maria
70. (2.5) Maggie
71. (2.5) The Ridiculous Six

* = saw in theaters
Rating is out of 5

[Show spoiler]My rating is a little weird since i give about 80% of movies a score between 3-4. So there isn't a lot of movies i watch that i don't like, but it is hard to get a great score from me. Rough letter grading equivalent;

[Show spoiler]
5.0-4.8 A+
4.7-4.4 A
4.4-4.2 A-
4.2-4.0 B+
4.0-3.7 B
3.7-3.5 B-
3.5-3.3 C+
3.2-3.0 C
2.9-2.7 C-
2.7-2.5 D+
2.5-2.3 D
2.3-2.1 D-
2< F

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Jacob Anderson

50 movies i'm most looking forward to:
Jan 23rd Mommy
Feb 27th '71

Mommy is bloody fantastic and I can't recommend it enough, same can be said for '71, which is a lot more of a genre film that I was expecting so it doesn't really have much to really say, but I can imagine a lot of people on the forum really falling for the film, it is terrifically intense.

[Quake1028]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

Films I have some degree of enthusiasm for:

San Andreas
Hot Tub Time Machine 2
Focus
Hitman

On the other hand, I have little to no enthusiam or hope for

Star Wars 7
Avengers 2
Mad Max: Fury Road
Jurassic World

I don't even know what to say, honestly.

[KubrickKurasawa]

Originally Posted by Kevin Holly

You can post all the gifs of pretty girls you want (in fact, you may as well post 260, to be honest). It doesn't change the fact that overhyped CGI fest sequels to long dead franchises are, in fact, overhyped CGI fest sequels to long dead franchises.

How you doin?! I noticed it's 2015 this morning You?