No DVD playback on Wii

[takezo]

Originally Posted by JTK

It was supposed to, last I checked.


Not for nuthin', but...who cares if these game consoles play DVDs, especially now?

Nintendo knows that just about everyone that would ever buy a DVD player of some sort owns by now, so why have any unecessary costs on the machine that don't need to be there?

That being said, I would have gladly paid an extra $50 on this thing for HD resolutions and Dolby Digital. They're only going to Dolby Pro Logic II again and nothing past 480p.

Somehow the gimmicky controller makes this thing a "next generation" console despite the above two glaring oversights and, imo at least, needless omissions.

I think $50 for basic RCA cables is too much, which basicaly all HD cables are. Try it, grab a composite cable, plug red in to red composite, white into blue composite, and yellow into green composite, it will work , However there are cheap component cables that are color coded for noobs and have decent sheilding from RFI and EMI interference.

I hope there will be official nintendo component cables, and hope it will not dissapear like game cube's did. Then Nintendo will remove the feature in future versions of the Wii.

If you got an HDTV, even if 480p is sub HD, It will look significantly better than 480i.
Expecially on composite cables. Composite causes color bleeding and loss of detail from the chroma (color) being embeded into the Y signal (black and white). S-video is better as it seperates the Y and croma. Thus less color bleeding and higher contrast. Component is the ultimate as it splits croma it to to parts Pb and Pr. thats why component is often refered to YPbPr. Even at 480i, component is superior to those standard composite cables that came with all consoles since SNES days.

Still Wii will change people's veiw about games. That Xbox 360 and PS 2 controler that young inexperienced gamers are used to, have been developed over battle tested ideas from Nintendo. In fact the most gimicky feature into day's contolers, the rumble feature was first done by Nintendo in Starfox 64. Now every freaking contoller has rumble feature.

Sony has motion detection, it's just a matter of time befor MSFT does it too. Already nintedo is evolving games beyond just superfical graphics that fade over time. It's evolution that lasts forever.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by takezo

I think $50 for basic RCA cables is too much, which basicaly all HD cables are. Try it, grab a composite cable, plug red in to red composite, white into blue composite, and yellow into green composite, it will work , However there are cheap component cables that are color coded for noobs and have decent sheilding from RFI and EMI interference.

There's a certain ohm rating a few other things you have to look out for, but basically, yes, any of these cables are interchangeable.

Places like these:

www.monoprice.com

www.ramelectronics.net

Hard to see paying $50 a pop for good cables after you've spent a couple of minutes on those sites.

I hope there will be official nintendo component cables, and hope it will not dissapear like game cube's did. Then Nintendo will remove the feature in future versions of the Wii.

The Wii is an overclocked GC. Literally.

What do you think? This is the same Nintendo that put out a $50 Broadband Internet adapter, supported it for one game officially, and it took fans to create War Pipe out of frustration when this same BBA was consigned to the same huge mountain of unsupported and useless peripherals dating all the way back to R.O.B.

Why? Because somehow, in Nintendo's world, the Internet was still a niche fad that wasn't going to catch on even a few years back when the BBA came out.

It's just like in their world now, HD and Dolby Digital both are STILL niche fads that "aren't going to catch on."

If you got an HDTV, even if 480p is sub HD, It will look significantly better than 480i.
Expecially on composite cables.

I really hope you meant to say component cables. I'm going to do you a favor and assume that's what you meant.

Composite causes color bleeding and loss of detail from the chroma (color) being embeded into the Y signal (black and white). S-video is better as it seperates the Y and croma. Thus less color bleeding and higher contrast. Component is the ultimate as it splits croma it to to parts Pb and Pr. thats why component is often refered to YPbPr. Even at 480i, component is superior to those standard composite cables that came with all consoles since SNES days.

Do you really think any of us here don't already know all of this?

Are you kidding?

Still Wii will change people's veiw about games.

I'll believe it when I see it. Overclocked GameCube games with a gimmicky controller alone doesn't do it for me.

I'm not sold on hype. I'm sold on results.

Here's one thing Nintendo is taking a gamble on:

Gamers, by and large, are lazy. We all like to sit around, be bums, and play our games.

I am just trying to imagine a group of 10 years olds playing one of these Wii games while they're both using one of these gimmicky devices.

They're going to be waving their arms all over the place and there's going to be mass destruction and chaos!


Beyond that: I just don't see a lot of these gamers wanting to be bothered with the necessary endurance and dexterity one would need to use this device for any prolonged gaming sessions.

I just don't see it.

That Xbox 360 and PS 2 controler that young inexperienced gamers are used to, have been developed over battle tested ideas from Nintendo.

Again, do you really think you're telling any of us something new?

Nintendo was the pioneer and others arguably improved on many of their original ideas.

We all know this!

In fact the most gimicky feature into day's contolers, the rumble feature was first done by Nintendo in Starfox 64. Now every freaking contoller has rumble feature.

That's true.

But the difference is: Nintendo would throw a bunch of crap at the wall to see what sticks and/or just not be bothered to continue trying to support something, whether it be that rumble feature you talk about...or a $50 Internet Broadband Adapter for the GC, as another example.

Sony has motion detection, it's just a matter of time befor MSFT does it too.

Everyone copies off of everyone else.

Nothing new here.

Already Nintedo is evolving games beyond just superfical graphics that fade over time.

Pure hype and fanboyisms.

It's evolution that lasts forever.

By a good number of your posts here, I think it's safe to say that you are obviously a Nintendo fanboy. You're talking hype, not actual results.

You're making declarative statements in present, or even past tense, about the future as if it has already happened, when it clearly has not.

A year or two from now, maybe it'll be as you stated here.

But not yet.

I'll believe it when I see it.

[takezo]

i already have DVD player, there is no need for Wii to play DVD's.

Infact I, got Xbox 1, and PS2, however i still use a standalone DVD player for movies. Console playback is a good idea when the media is still new. Just like PS3 and Blu-ray.
however I will bet that anyone who buys PS3 will one day buy a standalone Blu-ray player. Because PS3's Blu-ray playback will not be on par with a standalone player, and that's exactly how PS2, Xbox 1, and Xbox 360 is with DVD movies.

Why would Wii need to play DVDs when everyone has a standalone DVD player ?

[JTK]

Originally Posted by takezo

i already have DVD player, there is no need for Wii to play DVD's.

Just because YOU personally may be in a certain situation doesn't mean there aren't a whole lot of other people in completely different situations.

Infact I, got Xbox 1, and PS2, however i still use a standalone DVD player for movies. Console playback is a good idea when the media is still new. Just like PS3 and Blu-ray.
however I will bet that anyone who buys PS3 will one day buy a standalone Blu-ray player.

Maybe in several years, when the format is over.

Because PS3's Blu-ray playback will not be on par with a standalone player,

And you know this how?

...and that's exactly how PS2, Xbox 1, and Xbox 360 is with DVD movies.

The 360 is actually a pretty good DVD player.

Why would Wii need to play DVDs when everyone has a standalone DVD player ?

It doesn't need to be.

Not sure where you get some of your ideas from...

[thewiimaster]

Mod edit: One and you're done.