did Pirates beat Transformers? - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

quetzalcoatl · 12-11-2007, 03:57 AM

Disney for the most part does not give out numbers. So we will most likely not know. Those in the industry that pay for the numbers should know but they cannot say.

Kairav · 12-11-2007, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Cain

Worse than Home On the Range?

Superbad did less than $170 million in box office worldwide; POTC AWE did $961 million.

Everyone on this planet who is a fan of the POTC movies went to watch AWE atleast once in the cinemas...........

Superbad was not advertised globally.......

Kayne314 · 12-11-2007, 04:22 AM

Being the Purple fellow I am, I bought both. I like both movies for very different reasons, and many people hate them just as equally.

Here's my pitiful take. I'll give overall PQ to Transformers, but AQ goes to POTC- AWE. Some of the darker scenes had too much film grain in them for my tastes. ( some people like this fact. True-er to the film stock look. I know I'll be argued with on this one, but those scenes stuck out too obviously.) With POTC, the sound was fantastic Home Demo stuff. Worth it just for the sound.

For special Features... I'd give this one a tie. My only complaint about POTC was the lack of a director's commentary. My only complaint about Transformers WAS the director commentary. ( Bay came off as a total A$$-hat)

In the end, one of these movies has staying power, one doesn't. One movie is iconic for all ages, one is a flash in the pan.

For my money Pirates of the Caribbean - At World's End will sell more copies over the long haul, because people will always want to revisit these characters and their world.

Blu-Ray for the win!

cking2729 · 12-11-2007, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kairav

Everyone on this planet who is a fan of the POTC movies went to watch AWE atleast once in the cinemas...........

Superbad was not advertised globally.......

Yep. At World's End was on 7,000 screens worldwide and appeals to a wide demographic, whereas Superbad was on roughly 3,500 and mostly limited to US and UK. Pirates 3 wasn't received very well at all, and I suspect that will translate into less than stellar HDM sales.

davidPS3 · 12-11-2007, 04:34 AM

I don't see it beating transfers. I am most interested though in if we can beat out the red team on the HP movies this week. That will be a true test, toe to toe.

aphex · 12-11-2007, 04:41 AM

since no one knows the real transformers numbers, we'll never know. However first week pirates will definitely beat trans. Because pirates is selling at a better time(near christmas) and there's a lot more bluray buyers than hddud buyers.

Shit lfodh sold 100k cuz of christmas sales, so imagine this movie.

BluStar88 · 12-11-2007, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dobyblue

I think by the end of the year it will have smoked Transformers.

+1

quexos · 12-11-2007, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by davidPS3

I don't see it beating transfers. I am most interested though in if we can beat out the red team on the HP movies this week. That will be a true test, toe to toe.

I concur. But we won't know about the HP figures until not this Friday but the one after.

Waiting, waiting, waiting ...

Hawknelson05 · 12-11-2007, 05:53 AM

i dont know if it did. But I do know we got more physical copies in at target for pirates. 1050 as opposed to 750ish for transformers

mel2 · 12-11-2007, 08:30 AM

why the hate for AWE?
I loved it more than the first two. I enjoyed all the doublecrossing and every scene with geoffrey rush. I thought it was better than transformers, spidey 3, harry potter, and die hard. to each his own. It deserves to sell more than transformers.

Beefbowl · 12-11-2007, 08:33 AM

I don't know. I thought the Megan Fox movie was great. lol. Wish it was in Blu though

yankeedawg21 · 12-11-2007, 02:25 PM

the only reason i would think it would beat transformers is because a lot more people have blu ray than HDDUD. Even if half the people who have blu get AWE that should beat transformers

BluOgre · 12-11-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cking2729

I can answer your question without any nonsense: No, it won't beat Transformers.

It'd be nice, granted, but it won't. Bottom line.

(for the record, if for some reason it beats Transformers even by .001%, I'll gladly eat my words

)

Why wouldn't it beat transformers? Heck didn't Live Free Die Hard almost beat it? Spider-man 3 already beat it.

We are talking about the REAL numbers not some fluffed up numbers from Paramount where they said they sold 190k the first 6 days right? Everything I saw said it only sold 115k that first week. Judging by the fact the first two have sold over 70k each (I think), you honestly think it can't outsell Transformers first week of sales?

cajmoyper · 12-11-2007, 06:55 PM

I'm pretty sure Trans beat Spidey and Die Hard didn't get anywhere near.

cawgijoe · 12-11-2007, 07:10 PM

We just watched Transformers on regular DVD a couple nights ago.....never saw it in theaters and not to offend anyone who likes this movie, but it was pretty forgettable as far as I'm concerned.

The Don · 12-11-2007, 07:16 PM

when TF came out on HD-DVD, it was the biggest movie to come out for them in a bit...especially a new movie...

Pirates is not our best movie....we have a bunch of new blockbuster titles...not just 1...

The Don · 12-11-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cawgijoe

We just watched Transformers on regular DVD a couple nights ago.....never saw it in theaters and not to offend anyone who likes this movie, but it was pretty forgettable as far as I'm concerned.

the action was great....but the acting and storyline just seemed kinda whipped together..

Megatron was a Jet and couldn't catch up to the kid running on foot with the box?

"go on kid...you're a soldier now!"....yeah there's like 20 soldiers in the fight scene and they decide to leave it up to the kid?...

ehh...but I still enjoyed it and will buy it when it comes out on Blu because the action was great..

Blu-Ray Buckeye · 12-11-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pellaeon

It didnt climb up as high on Amazon. Should be interesting.

That isn't a valid metric right now. When TF came out the overall volume was extremely long and it was far easier to dominate the rankings. Now we are in the holiday swing with far greater volume and it will be impossible to dominate in the same way. The Amazon rankings do not necessarily mean that the nominal units will not be higher for POTC.

Blu-Ray Buckeye · 12-11-2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kairav

Everyone on this planet who is a fan of the POTC movies went to watch AWE atleast once in the cinemas...........

I didn't.

w_tanoto · 12-11-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pellaeon

It didnt climb up as high on Amazon. Should be interesting.

don't rely on amazon number. like black friday, i remembered BD has a very low ranks in amazon, but turned out to be 72% of all sales

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12-11-2007, 03:57 AM	#21
quetzalcoatl Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Grants Pass, OR	Disney for the most part does not give out numbers. So we will most likely not know. Those in the industry that pay for the numbers should know but they cannot say.

12-11-2007, 04:22 AM	#23
Kayne314 Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Blu-ray reviews:1	Being the Purple fellow I am, I bought both. I like both movies for very different reasons, and many people hate them just as equally. Here's my pitiful take. I'll give overall PQ to Transformers, but AQ goes to POTC- AWE. Some of the darker scenes had too much film grain in them for my tastes. ( some people like this fact. True-er to the film stock look. I know I'll be argued with on this one, but those scenes stuck out too obviously.) With POTC, the sound was fantastic Home Demo stuff. Worth it just for the sound. For special Features... I'd give this one a tie. My only complaint about POTC was the lack of a director's commentary. My only complaint about Transformers WAS the director commentary. ( Bay came off as a total A$$-hat) In the end, one of these movies has staying power, one doesn't. One movie is iconic for all ages, one is a flash in the pan. For my money Pirates of the Caribbean - At World's End will sell more copies over the long haul, because people will always want to revisit these characters and their world. Blu-Ray for the win!

12-11-2007, 04:34 AM	#25
davidPS3 Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Seattle	I don't see it beating transfers. I am most interested though in if we can beat out the red team on the HP movies this week. That will be a true test, toe to toe.

12-11-2007, 04:41 AM	#26
aphex Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Scottsdale Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	since no one knows the real transformers numbers, we'll never know. However first week pirates will definitely beat trans. Because pirates is selling at a better time(near christmas) and there's a lot more bluray buyers than hddud buyers. Shit lfodh sold 100k cuz of christmas sales, so imagine this movie.

12-11-2007, 05:53 AM	#29
Hawknelson05 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Gainesville Trading Score:1	i dont know if it did. But I do know we got more physical copies in at target for pirates. 1050 as opposed to 750ish for transformers

12-11-2007, 08:30 AM	#30
mel2 Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	why the hate for AWE? I loved it more than the first two. I enjoyed all the doublecrossing and every scene with geoffrey rush. I thought it was better than transformers, spidey 3, harry potter, and die hard. to each his own. It deserves to sell more than transformers.

12-11-2007, 08:33 AM	#31
Beefbowl Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Guam Home Theater Gallery:20 Blu-ray collection:749 Trading Score:20	I don't know. I thought the Megan Fox movie was great. lol. Wish it was in Blu though

12-11-2007, 02:25 PM	#32
yankeedawg21 Member Member since:Feb 2007	the only reason i would think it would beat transformers is because a lot more people have blu ray than HDDUD. Even if half the people who have blu get AWE that should beat transformers

12-11-2007, 06:55 PM	#34
cajmoyper Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2007 Location:San Antonio, TX Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:182	I'm pretty sure Trans beat Spidey and Die Hard didn't get anywhere near.

12-11-2007, 07:10 PM	#35
cawgijoe Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Trading Score:1	We just watched Transformers on regular DVD a couple nights ago.....never saw it in theaters and not to offend anyone who likes this movie, but it was pretty forgettable as far as I'm concerned.

12-11-2007, 07:16 PM	#36
The Don Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2006 Blu-ray reviews:12 Trading Score:2	when TF came out on HD-DVD, it was the biggest movie to come out for them in a bit...especially a new movie... Pirates is not our best movie....we have a bunch of new blockbuster titles...not just 1...

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