Tag Team Matchup: Spidey 3 and Pirates 3 vs Transformers and Bourn Ultimatum - Blu-ray Forum

rjg · 09-22-2007, 10:27 PM

who will make more sales combine in HD?

Sony has a pretty good advertising campaign setup for spidey3, i am sure disney will also. i think no match for these movies. Blu wins

Incog · 09-22-2007, 10:33 PM

Hard to say. Transformers has a huge following of fans who tend to be hi-def owners. Spiderman 3 wasn't as big of a hit with the fans as 1 and 2 were. Bourne was an excellent movie, and surprised a lot of folks. Pirates 3 was also very good, and many will want it to complete their set.

All in all, it will come down to volume of players, and fans coming out to buy. I think Blu has the upper hand in movie support, which has been proven true in the last 12 months with near 2:1 sales vs HD

Gamma_Winstead · 09-22-2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Incog

Hard to say. Transformers has a huge following of fans who tend to be hi-def owners. Spiderman 3 wasn't as big of a hit with the fans as 1 and 2 were. Bourne was an excellent movie, and surprised a lot of folks. Pirates 3 was also very good, and many will want it to complete their set.

All in all, it will come down to volume of players, and fans coming out to buy. I think Blu has the upper hand in movie support, which has been proven true in the last 12 months with near 2:1 sales vs HD

I think Blu will be victorious but not just because of the amount of players but because of the movies. I would prefer Spidey over Bourne any day. I thought the 3rd Bourne was annoying. The movie itself was OK but the way it was filmed made me sick... OK it is not about me but i think Blu will win this battle.

Whytewash · 09-22-2007, 10:51 PM

I wish that I could be supportive of BLU on this matter but I really think that HD DVD will win this matchup on these two titles. I personally dont like the bourne movies but transformers was HUGE! I think that because of these 2 movies, HD DVD might win a combined total.

I know many people that liked transformers and Bourne. I also know that many people liked Spidey and Pirates. Even though I will buy both Spidey and Pirates, I do think that HDDVD will edge out on this one.

Basically what that means is that I will need to buy extra blus to make sure that DUD will never beat blu ray on the neilsen stats.

mswoods1 · 09-22-2007, 11:01 PM

Spidey 3 --> Disappointing
POTC 3 --> Disappointing
Shrek the Third --> Disappointing

Ratatouille --> Surprising
Bourne 3 --> Surprising
Transformers --> Surprising

With that said, I think Spidey 3 and Pirates 3 will outsell Bourne and Transformers simply because there are about 4-5 times more BR players out there [or something like that, can't remember the ratio of PS3's + SAL's to HD DVD players.]

techyted · 09-22-2007, 11:47 PM

Sad thing is that I like both Transformers and Bourne better than Spiderman 3, and I skipped pirates 3 because I didn't like 2, but I love Blu-ray, so I pre-ordered the Spidey trilogy and I WILL NOT BUY a HD-DVD player or Bourne or Transformers HD-DVD. I will rent the DVD format from Netflix. Paramount and Universal will make a lot of money off me once they come back to the BLU....

The Guardian · 09-22-2007, 11:53 PM

Pirates 3 > Pirates 2 IMHO... Spidey 3 was annoying in how they handled the relationships etc. Bourne also made me kinda sick to my stomach with the jerky camera action in still scenes (you expect it in action scenes, not when trying to watch an unmoving object!)

If they were all being released on Blu-ray I would bet on Transformers winning.. however, with the disparity in number of players... I figure Pirates 3 will be the top seller.

oscar_in_fw · 09-23-2007, 12:18 AM

I think Transformers on DVD will win hands down.

I'll pick "Transformers" and "Bourne" to win only because of all the raves I've heard from friends who I thought would've known better. I personally rate them as follows:

"Bourne" - great movie I thought
"Spiderman 3" - started well, ended not so well.
"Transformers" - okay decent special effects, lame plot.
"POTC 3" - blech

I'd buy up "Bourne" and "Transformers" IF they had lossless audio tracks. I'll wait for the special edition versions which do include lossless audio - though I might be waiting a while, it may not happen until they appear on Blu-ray.

Gamma_Winstead · 09-23-2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Guardian

Pirates 3 > Pirates 2 IMHO... Spidey 3 was annoying in how they handled the relationships etc. Bourne also made me kinda sick to my stomach with the jerky camera action in still scenes (you expect it in action scenes, not when trying to watch an unmoving object!)

If they were all being released on Blu-ray I would bet on Transformers winning.. however, with the disparity in number of players... I figure Pirates 3 will be the top seller.

In bourne i just wanted to be able to see what was going on. That is why i did not like it. I would buy it if it was on Blu

SlapnutsGT · 09-23-2007, 01:17 AM

Hate to say it but I bet first few weeks transformers HD DVD will prolly top the charts for a couple weeks...

But, then again I'm not sure what Blu-Ray is coming out to compete with it...anyone know?

SlapnutsGT · 09-23-2007, 01:20 AM

* AC/DC: Live at Donington (Sony BMG)
* Hollow Man (Director's Cut) (Sony)
* The Invisible (Buena Vista)
* Masters of Horror: Season One - Volume One (Starz)
* Masters of Horror: Season One - Volume Two (Starz)
* The Reaping (Warner)
* Return to House on Haunted Hill (Warner)

Yup shitty blu ray line-up for oct 16th....something good better be announced or we are losing that week

supersix4 · 09-23-2007, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Guardian

Pirates 3 > Pirates 2 IMHO... Spidey 3 was annoying in how they handled the relationships etc. Bourne also made me kinda sick to my stomach with the jerky camera action in still scenes (you expect it in action scenes, not when trying to watch an unmoving object!)

they said it was ment to be that way with the camera always moving ......

Papi4baby · 09-23-2007, 02:34 AM

Hate to say it, but i think HDDVD has that week down pack. I personnaly preffer both Bourne and Trans, even thought i haven't seen trans. Spiderman 3 was ok, and the pirates thing got old for me since 2. Haven't seen 3 so maybe i'll be surprise we shall see.

lch · 09-23-2007, 02:42 AM

errr... i think dvd is going to win everything.
how many hd-dvd player is out there ? 3-500k ?
how many bd player is out there ? 4m ?
how many dvd player is out there ? xx b ?

Gamma_Winstead · 09-23-2007, 02:51 AM

I think Superbad will beat them all! Superbad and Pirates on the same day? SWEET!!!!!!

dobyblue · 09-23-2007, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rjg

who will make more sales combine in HD?

With those two titles I'd say it could be 5:1 Blu-ray at least.

The Guardian · 09-23-2007, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by supersix14

they said it was ment to be that way with the camera always moving ......

That's all well and good etc, but it still makes me queasy!

Arrmaitee · 09-23-2007, 04:46 PM

I think Spidy and POTC 3 will be victorious.

As mentioned previously, there are a lot more BD players out there than HD-DVD players, and I doubt that many people are going to dropping $400 on a new hd-dvd player so that they can see Transformers in high def.

I actually think Paramount is going to be hurting this holiday season, because the pissed off BD owners are probably not going to buy the HD-DVD or DVD versions of their newest films out of protest.

Also, even though some people didn't love Spidy 3, the 1-3 box set is more than enough of an incentive for me to preorder it.

ADPNIGHTMARE · 09-23-2007, 05:58 PM

i think that blu will win simply because of the more players. out of the 4 I only didnt see bourne because I wasn't really impressed with the trilogy. out of the other three i liked transformers the best IMO. But I will be picking up both the spidey box set and the pirates movies. I can wait for transformers to come on blu but I'm not happy about it.

zombieking · 09-23-2007, 06:08 PM

Doesn't bluray have a larger install base now?

Almost every blu owner will pick up Spidey or Pirates, or both. I'll just say Transformers was shit and leave it at that. HD doesn't have any titles that will endure the holidays. What I mean is that the few titles they do have will sell briskly for a couple weeks(that's being generous) then fall off the charts, a la 300.

09-22-2007, 10:27 PM	#1
rjg Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:San Diego Blu-ray collection:215 Blu-ray reviews:4	Tag Team Matchup: Spidey 3 and Pirates 3 vs Transformers and Bourn Ultimatum who will make more sales combine in HD? Sony has a pretty good advertising campaign setup for spidey3, i am sure disney will also. i think no match for these movies. Blu wins

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09-22-2007, 10:33 PM	#2
Incog Active Member Member since:Jul 2007	Hard to say. Transformers has a huge following of fans who tend to be hi-def owners. Spiderman 3 wasn't as big of a hit with the fans as 1 and 2 were. Bourne was an excellent movie, and surprised a lot of folks. Pirates 3 was also very good, and many will want it to complete their set. All in all, it will come down to volume of players, and fans coming out to buy. I think Blu has the upper hand in movie support, which has been proven true in the last 12 months with near 2:1 sales vs HD

09-22-2007, 10:51 PM	#4
Whytewash Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:'Couve, WA Blu-ray collection:60 Blu-ray reviews:1	I wish that I could be supportive of BLU on this matter but I really think that HD DVD will win this matchup on these two titles. I personally dont like the bourne movies but transformers was HUGE! I think that because of these 2 movies, HD DVD might win a combined total. I know many people that liked transformers and Bourne. I also know that many people liked Spidey and Pirates. Even though I will buy both Spidey and Pirates, I do think that HDDVD will edge out on this one. Basically what that means is that I will need to buy extra blus to make sure that DUD will never beat blu ray on the neilsen stats.

09-22-2007, 11:01 PM	#5
mswoods1 Member Member since:Aug 2007	Spidey 3 --> Disappointing POTC 3 --> Disappointing Shrek the Third --> Disappointing Ratatouille --> Surprising Bourne 3 --> Surprising Transformers --> Surprising With that said, I think Spidey 3 and Pirates 3 will outsell Bourne and Transformers simply because there are about 4-5 times more BR players out there [or something like that, can't remember the ratio of PS3's + SAL's to HD DVD players.]

09-22-2007, 11:47 PM	#6
techyted Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:California 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:163 Blu-ray reviews:1	Sad thing is that I like both Transformers and Bourne better than Spiderman 3, and I skipped pirates 3 because I didn't like 2, but I love Blu-ray, so I pre-ordered the Spidey trilogy and I WILL NOT BUY a HD-DVD player or Bourne or Transformers HD-DVD. I will rent the DVD format from Netflix. Paramount and Universal will make a lot of money off me once they come back to the BLU....

09-22-2007, 11:53 PM	#7
The Guardian Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Kitchener, ON Blu-ray collection:9 Trading Score:1	Pirates 3 > Pirates 2 IMHO... Spidey 3 was annoying in how they handled the relationships etc. Bourne also made me kinda sick to my stomach with the jerky camera action in still scenes (you expect it in action scenes, not when trying to watch an unmoving object!) If they were all being released on Blu-ray I would bet on Transformers winning.. however, with the disparity in number of players... I figure Pirates 3 will be the top seller.

09-23-2007, 12:18 AM	#8
oscar_in_fw Member Member since:Sep 2007	I think Transformers on DVD will win hands down. I'll pick "Transformers" and "Bourne" to win only because of all the raves I've heard from friends who I thought would've known better. I personally rate them as follows: "Bourne" - great movie I thought "Spiderman 3" - started well, ended not so well. "Transformers" - okay decent special effects, lame plot. "POTC 3" - blech I'd buy up "Bourne" and "Transformers" IF they had lossless audio tracks. I'll wait for the special edition versions which do include lossless audio - though I might be waiting a while, it may not happen until they appear on Blu-ray.

09-23-2007, 01:17 AM	#10
SlapnutsGT Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Atlanta	Hate to say it but I bet first few weeks transformers HD DVD will prolly top the charts for a couple weeks... But, then again I'm not sure what Blu-Ray is coming out to compete with it...anyone know?

09-23-2007, 01:20 AM	#11
SlapnutsGT Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Atlanta	* AC/DC: Live at Donington (Sony BMG) * Hollow Man (Director's Cut) (Sony) * The Invisible (Buena Vista) * Masters of Horror: Season One - Volume One (Starz) * Masters of Horror: Season One - Volume Two (Starz) * The Reaping (Warner) * Return to House on Haunted Hill (Warner) Yup shitty blu ray line-up for oct 16th....something good better be announced or we are losing that week

09-23-2007, 02:34 AM	#13
Papi4baby Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:That man from Nantucket Blu-ray collection:32	Hate to say it, but i think HDDVD has that week down pack. I personnaly preffer both Bourne and Trans, even thought i haven't seen trans. Spiderman 3 was ok, and the pirates thing got old for me since 2. Haven't seen 3 so maybe i'll be surprise we shall see.

09-23-2007, 02:42 AM	#14
lch Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:103 Blu-ray collection:813 Blu-ray reviews:1	errr... i think dvd is going to win everything. how many hd-dvd player is out there ? 3-500k ? how many bd player is out there ? 4m ? how many dvd player is out there ? xx b ?

09-23-2007, 02:51 AM	#15
Gamma_Winstead Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:U.S.G. Ishimura 4K collection:118 Blu-ray collection:764 Blu-ray reviews: 36 Trading Score:6	I think Superbad will beat them all! Superbad and Pirates on the same day? SWEET!!!!!!

09-23-2007, 04:46 PM	#18
Arrmaitee New Member Member since:Sep 2007	I think Spidy and POTC 3 will be victorious. As mentioned previously, there are a lot more BD players out there than HD-DVD players, and I doubt that many people are going to dropping $400 on a new hd-dvd player so that they can see Transformers in high def. I actually think Paramount is going to be hurting this holiday season, because the pissed off BD owners are probably not going to buy the HD-DVD or DVD versions of their newest films out of protest. Also, even though some people didn't love Spidy 3, the 1-3 box set is more than enough of an incentive for me to preorder it.

09-23-2007, 05:58 PM	#19
ADPNIGHTMARE Active Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:FLA	i think that blu will win simply because of the more players. out of the 4 I only didnt see bourne because I wasn't really impressed with the trilogy. out of the other three i liked transformers the best IMO. But I will be picking up both the spidey box set and the pirates movies. I can wait for transformers to come on blu but I'm not happy about it.

09-23-2007, 06:08 PM	#20
zombieking Special Member Member since:May 2007 Location:CANADA Blu-ray collection:304 Blu-ray reviews: 18	Doesn't bluray have a larger install base now? Almost every blu owner will pick up Spidey or Pirates, or both. I'll just say Transformers was shit and leave it at that. HD doesn't have any titles that will endure the holidays. What I mean is that the few titles they do have will sell briskly for a couple weeks(that's being generous) then fall off the charts, a la 300.

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