Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk 4K UHD 60p/3D (2016)

[Geoff D]

UHD at 60fps or GTFO

[Opips3]

Human common only eyes are 24fps limit. You will believe it on 60fps ??

[fitprod]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

UHD at 60fps or GTFO

Not gonna happen.

Fitprod

[Geoff D]

Why not? 60p is part of the UHD Blu spec...

[imhh1]

Originally Posted by Opips3

Human common only eyes are 24fps limit. You will believe it on 60fps ??

so how come i can tell the difference between 24fps and 60 fps video?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to whether the studio will convert BLLHW to 60 fps for the UHD Blu-ray, or down grade it all the way to 24 fps?

[Geoff D]

Probably take the easy way out and release it as 24fps even though UHD is fully capable of a 60fps version.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Probably take the easy way out and release it as 24fps even though UHD is fully capable of a 60fps version.

Probably, even though it would be easier to halve the 120 fps capture during conversion and it would look better too.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Probably, even though it would be easier to halve the 120 fps capture during conversion and it would look better too.

From what Penton's said in other threads there are different levels of adjustment and motion interpolation etc which will go into creating the various versions. And given that Lee shot some scenes natively at 60fps to give them a different feel to the 120fps footage, I should think that will also need work in post to differentiate the two sets of footage when both are boiled down to 60fps.

[Resettito]

Okay, there are 7 versions of the movie: 4K 3D 120 fps, 2K 3D 120 fps Dolby Vision, 2K 2D 120 fps Dolby Vision, 2K 2D 120 fps, 2K 3D 60 fps, 2K 2D 24 fps & 2K 3D 24 fps.

I'm hoping for a possible UHD 4K 60 fps 2D version, which I guess is possible.

Having read pretty much all there is to read about the movie, Lee never said he shot some scenes at 60 fps, he said that he goes down from 120 to 60 in the movie, and even lowers the resolution from 4K to 2K at times to create a different emotional response.

The American Cinematographer article in the December issue will have all the info, but as far as we know, the whole thing is shot in 4K 120 fps 3D, and they used Real D's True Motion techno to add or remove motion blur for all the different versions.

[Geoff D]

Okay, he didn't shoot some scenes at 60fps but the desired effect of changing the rate down to 60fps is still present, no?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Resettito

Okay, there are 7 versions of the movie: 4K 3D 120 fps, 2K 3D 120 fps Dolby Vision, 2K 2D 120 fps Dolby Vision, 2K 2D 120 fps, 2K 3D 60 fps, 2K 2D 24 fps & 2K 3D 24 fps.

I see you're an optimist, re: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post12829487

[Resettito]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Okay, he didn't shoot some scenes at 60fps but the desired effect of changing the rate down to 60fps is still present, no?

It should be. Otherwise, there ARE 7 versions, whether everyone gets them, I have no idea. The 4K 120 fps 3D one will be in 2 or 3 theaters in the US, the rest in Asia.

[Pieter V]

Release date: February 7th, 2017

[cgpublic]

Regardless of the outcome, success or failure, you have to give Ang Lee the credit for putting his reputation on the line and testing the limits.

Ang has a number of phenomenal films to his credit that are among my personal favorites, most of all The Ice Storm and Ride With The Devil. He's also taken some very big risks, some of which, such as The Hulk, were artistic and commercial failures, while others, such as Brokeback Mountain and Life of Pi, tremendous successes.

Based on the trailer, he has combined a very topical and challenging subject, patriotism in the USA, with a very innovative approach to filmmaking. As I'm in NYC, here's hoping I find the time and snag a seat to see the film as he intended.

[Resettito]

Exactly. Reactions are mixed but I think this may have more to do with the stream of consciousness feel of it from what I read, it only comes out late January here, but I love the book, the movie seems to stick very close to it, while toning down on the acerbic side of Billy. Just looks very emotional and special imo, Joe Alwyn looks phenomenal too.

It'll be 24 fps 2D for most theaters, Sony pulled the plug on a wide HFR release, or more like they shot themselves in the foot voluntarily by shifting it to a limited release on the 11th and wide on the 18th, only a handful of Dolby Cinemas will show the Dolby Vision version.

There's a 3D 60fps version in China though, hopefully more HFR shows overseas.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Release date: February 7th, 2017

I hope this will be like 'Angry Birds' / 'Ghostbusters' where the 3D disc is included in the bundle release.

[xbs2034]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Okay, he didn't shoot some scenes at 60fps but the desired effect of changing the rate down to 60fps is still present, no?

After seeing the 120/4k/3D version, I suspect the fantasy sequences (there are a couple times Billy has short daydreams) are where it drops down to 2k/60. Also, like The Hobbit movies, it looks sped up to my eyes initially, but I adjusted after maybe three minutes (same with Hobbit sequels, first Hobbit took much longer to adjust to, but I think never seeing HFR before and improved color grading on the sequels and Billy Lynn also factored in).

[dommie]

Just saw this in the 120fps format.

First, as a film, it was just O.K. and certainly not one of Ang Lee's stronger films. The narrative just seemed to ramble a bit too much for me and in the end, I came away just saying, "so?" The acting is sufficient. Maybe because I just saw Hacksaw Ridge last week, this film, also being basically about the soldier's experience in war but examined from a different angle, just didn't resonate.

As for the technology (120fps), while it looks sharp as hell, it didn't really knock me out. It was like watching extremely enhanced high definition video. You can see every strand of hair on the performers' heads and look deep right into their eyes on every close-up. Yes, you feel like you are watching people who are standing right in front of you but the result is that any element of fantasy (that the film look and feel brings to the table) is completely removed from the experience. For me, rather than add to the film going experience, it took something away.

I give Ang Lee a lot of credit for trying something new and attempting to stretch the boundaries. It just did not work for me, at least not with this particular film.

[Pieter V]

Regular DCP details:

Feature Run Time: 01:52:37
Start of End Credits: 01:47:34
End Credit Offset: 00:05:03
Image Format: 2K 1998x1080 Flat
File Size: 138 GB
Audio Format: 5.1