The first UHD Blu-ray drive

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by thejaguar

I can't wait to rip my UHD's and store them on my NAS.

Keep in mind:

Ultra HD Blu-ray discs support digital copies, allowing users to access content “across the range of in-home mobile devices,” according to the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA). Information disclosed in an interview with BDA executive, Victor Matsuda, reveals how this works: “There are two digital bridge features, copy and export,” said Matsuda. “Copy permits a bit-for-bit copy to be stored on an authorized attached media drive. Export allows files to be transferred to an authorized mobile device.”

Anybody's guess as to IF and/or WHEN .

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Should i get PowerDVD Ultra 16 now & upgrade to 17 later? Since 16 is on sale now, will it go lower? Or just wait till Power 17 comes out?

[triffid]

It is a dirty trick. In fact, PowerDVD is on sale almost all the year and its price is always between USD 50 and 60. Once one sale ends, another starts. A real offer was there before Christmas - buy PDVD 16 now and get PDVD 17 in April for free. I almost bought it and now I am glad I did not. I will receive one in the Pioneer drive bundle.

If you are not planning to buy an UHD drive, the choice do not matter, the differences are almost none. Then buy PDVD16. When PDVD 17 comes out, it will be (probably) for full price for some time.

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http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreak...ay-drive-4k-pc

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11069/...bdrs11j-drives

http://www.pcworld.com/article/31620...s-for-pcs.html

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http://pioneer.jp/corp/news/press/index/2064/

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Originally Posted by triffid

It is a dirty trick. In fact, PowerDVD is on sale almost all the year and its price is always between USD 50 and 60. Once one sale ends, another starts. A real offer was there before Christmas - buy PDVD 16 now and get PDVD 17 in April for free. I almost bought it and now I am glad I did not. I will receive one in the Pioneer drive bundle.

If you are not planning to buy an UHD drive, the choice do not matter, the differences are almost none. Then buy PDVD16. When PDVD 17 comes out, it will be (probably) for full price for some time.

Thanks for the info. No way i'm buying Power 16 now when I could of gotten 17 free later. Looks like the Pioneer drive bundle will be PowerDVD 14 with a added UHD player?

[hansolo]

I wonder why Pioneer did not put the official Ultra HD Blu-ray logo in drive's front panel. Just ordinary Blu-ray logo.

There is very interesting info in Anandtech's article about the whole protection scheme and how everything in PC must comply with AACS2. For example CPU needs to be SGX (Software Guard Extensions) instructions compliant. "Intel first incorporated SGX into its Skylake CPUs in 2015, but not all of such chips support the tech: for example, some of the early higher-end processors have it disabled."

-A PC that supports AACS 2.0 and Intel Software Guard Extensions (SGX)
-An appropriate optical disk drive,
-Software that handles UHD BD playback,
-Windows 10,
-A GPU that has an HDMI 2.0a output with HDCP 2.2 (and AACS2 supported by its driver, which eliminates current-gen standalone GPUs) and,
-A 4K TV/display that has an HDMI 2.0a input with HDCP 2.2.

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Originally Posted by hansolo

I wonder why Pioneer did not put the official Ultra HD Blu-ray logo in drive's front panel. Just ordinary Blu-ray logo.[/I]

I'm sure when they finally come out they'll have the Ultra HD logo.

Another link about the PC Requirements, check out the comment section

https://www.extremetech.com/computin...6x-burn-speeds

the Anandtech article comment section blew up as well

[GasmaskAvenger]

I'd probably wait five years to get one, which could be when computers are up to speed with 4K UHD requirements and whatnot.

[Oniros]

These requirements are absurd. Probably the only reason that it requires a brand new CPU is because of stuff like HDCP 2.2 compliance or other DRM disguised as new standards. I was holding off on buying a BD drive for my PC due to UHD drives being released soon, but this pretty much forces me to buy a new PC.

Originally Posted by hansolo

I wonder why Pioneer did not put the official Ultra HD Blu-ray logo in drive's front panel. Just ordinary Blu-ray logo.

There is very interesting info in Anandtech's article about the whole protection scheme and how everything in PC must comply with AACS2. For example CPU needs to be SGX (Software Guard Extensions) instructions compliant. "Intel first incorporated SGX into its Skylake CPUs in 2015, but not all of such chips support the tech: for example, some of the early higher-end processors have it disabled."

Utterly absurd.

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I'm gonna install one in my current PC thats 2 years old & see what happens, fingers crossed

[PRO-630HD]

So does this mean now we can actually get some accurate bitrates, disc capacities and screen grabs off the Pioneer drive?

[triffid]

Originally Posted by img eL

I'm gonna install one in my current PC thats 2 years old & see what happens, fingers crossed

Good luck. I am going to buy one too. I must replace my CPU and motherboard in 2017 anyway, thus I will buy either i5/i7 + Z270 or wait for Zen APU + X370. I guess the fothcoming AMD APUs with integrated graphics should be able to do the same HDCP security trick?

[triffid]

P.S.:
So far only six Z270 motherboards have HDMI 2.0 (2x Gigabyte, 2x Supermicro, 2x Biostar), all others have HDMI 1.4, even top models from MSI or ASUS. Out of these six only Gigabyte and Supermicro expressly mention HDCP 2.2.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by triffid

Out of these six only Gigabyte and Supermicro expressly mention HDCP 2.2.

If anyone finds a motherboard/UEIF that supports SGX and HDCP 2.2 please post your findings here. I have downloaded the owners manual for some the latest ASUS and Gigabyte Z270 MB’s and they make no mention of SGX and HDCP 2.2.

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Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

If anyone finds a motherboard/UEIF that supports SGX and HDCP 2.2 please post your findings here. I have downloaded the owners manual for some the latest ASUS and Gigabyte Z270 MB’s and they make no mention of SGX and HDCP 2.2.

If you have newer motherboards you might be able to enable SGX in bios, it might be disabled by default. I have never checked for SGX until yesterday & my motherboard does not have it.

[triffid]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

If anyone finds a motherboard/UEIF that supports SGX and HDCP 2.2 please post your findings here. I have downloaded the owners manual for some the latest ASUS and Gigabyte Z270 MB’s and they make no mention of SGX and HDCP 2.2.

As I wrote earlier, there are 6 mobos with HDMI 2.0, four of these support HDCP 2.2 - Gigabyte Gaming 9, Gaming 8 and two from Supermicro.

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Originally Posted by triffid

As I wrote earlier, there are 6 mobos with HDMI 2.0, four of these support HDCP 2.2 - Gigabyte Gaming 9, Gaming 8 and two from Supermicro.

I've read posts in PC forums from software engineers stating that Bios updates could include SGX & HDCP 2.2. for newer motherboards

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by triffid

As I wrote earlier, there are 6 mobos with HDMI 2.0, four of these support HDCP 2.2 - Gigabyte Gaming 9, Gaming 8 and two from Supermicro.

Yes, I know about those. The problem is the Gigabyte ones made no mention of SGX (Intel's Software Guard Extensions). No SGX then no UHD BD playback. Kaby Lake CPU's do have SGX but if the UEFI (BIOS) does not support it then you are SOL. Have not looked at the Supermicro.

[imhh1]

Originally Posted by img eL

I've read posts in PC forums from software engineers stating that Bios updates could include SGX & HDCP 2.2. for newer motherboards

Just checked on mine and it had the SGX option disabled by default.
Z270 Asrock pro4 with hdmi 1.4 only