Blu-ray in 2008 had way more catalog titles than 4k has now.

[Hunter4201]

Yeah next year I’m expecting: A nightmare on elm street, Gremlins, Wizard of oz, Fight Club, Alien, District 9, The Shawshank Redemption, and Mad Max

[AKORIS]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I guess you guys really don't see the decline in Disc Sales, it seems the only people buying Discs are on this Site. There is a Thread that shows Disc Sales, and it keeps going down. Streaming is taking over, Best Buy and Target are cutting their Disc Inventories. Everyone is going OnLine, but Discs are on the way out.

Right......

[StingingVelvet]

While I'm sure the weaker Home Video Market is part of it, we also have to remember that with very few exceptions 4K catalog titles are all from 4K remasters. With early Blu Ray releases they could slap any old master on them in HD and try and sell it, but that's not the case with UHD. This limits the number of releases.

[brian9229]

Well, you know, uhd just took off. 2 years in, it's still in it's infancy. There's more and more every month.

[LegacyCosts]

Honestly I'm surprised enough people are still buying discs

[ray0414]

A 4k hdr catalog release takes more time and more care. It's way different.

[Sky_Captain]

Remember that one film that was in all the early BD trailers, but took nearly a decade to arrive on the format?

Lord knows when that'll hit UHD...

[Show spoiler]

Oh.

[guachi]

On the plus side, you (and by that I mean I) can buy a blu-ray of a movie under the assumption it probably won't come to UHD so you might as well buy it cheap on blu.

My first blu-ray was purchased last June about a week after my first UHD disc. I had basically stopped buying movies and mostly it was my wife doing the purchasing and she had no desire to upgrade to blu ray so the few movies we did buy were on DVD.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

The Deer Hunter, The first three Rambo films, American Psycho, The Matrix, They Live, The Fog, Prince of Darkness, Escape From New York, Saving Private Ryan, Halloween, The Evil Dead all not “catalog” enough for you? Not to mention, a lot of older Blu Ray used DVD-era HD masters some of which haven’t held up so good.

not really

they even have modern, recent 4k scans already done for stuff like Lawrence of Arabia, The Sound Of Music, South Pacific, The Princess Bride, Edward Scissorhands, West Side Story, The Force Awakens, Rogue One, Titanic, The Terminator and I think at least some of the Alien series movies too, just for starters but no UHD discs (although I think one of these does have some mention that it will be arriving, but only one AFAIK)

of course even more insane is that never mind UHD, they don't even have some classic films, even by those as famous as John Hughes out on blu-ray yet!

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by ray0414

A 4k hdr catalog release takes more time and more care. It's way different.

some catalog stuff barely needs HDR, in some cases it might even make it look odd

[ROSS.T.G.]

[Clark Kent]

Some studios (Lionsgate) were getting paid by the Blu-ray consortium to pump out as many catalog Blu-rays as possible back in 2006-2008 before Toshiba threw in the towel. You have to remember that Blu-ray was fighting a format war early in its life.

If they had rolled Blu-ray out as slowly as they have for UHD, Blu-ray would have lost to HD-DVD. But UHD has no format competitor pushing the studios to pump out random movies on the format.

[Alister_M]

Lawrence of Arabia would really need an 8K scan to truly shine on UHD. 4K is still too low-res for properly scanning 70mm film.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Alister_M

Lawrence of Arabia would really need an 8K scan to truly shine on UHD. 4K is still too low-res for properly scanning 70mm film.

I think it may have had a >4k scan, but obviously all they could use is a 4k from it for the theatrical digital re-release a couple years ago. Not 100% sure though. (anyway my post was a bit loose with terms, by 4k, I just meant at least scanned at 4k, in some cases more)

[StrayButler91]

Originally Posted by WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW

some catalog stuff barely needs HDR, in some cases it might even make it look odd

That’s... why HDR takes time and care To avoid that.

[panasonicst60]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

Some studios (Lionsgate) were getting paid by the Blu-ray consortium to pump out as many catalog Blu-rays as possible back in 2006-2008 before Toshiba threw in the towel. You have to remember that Blu-ray was fighting a format war early in its life.

If they had rolled Blu-ray out as slowly as they have for UHD, Blu-ray would have lost to HD-DVD. But UHD has no format competitor pushing the studios to pump out random movies on the format.

Very good point. I totally forgot about hddvd.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW

some catalog stuff barely needs HDR, in some cases it might even make it look odd

Thats irrelevant. It still takes time to do it. And getting someone from the original movie to do it/help out.

But to your argument, I disagree. Hdr has helped the catalog movies big time. The extra detail and clip correction has been fantastic.

[RodChester]

Originally Posted by Alhlan Ain Ajeeba

Really? You just mentioned 13 movies,I can guarantee without even knowing how many catalog titles were released on blu in 2008,its probably over 40 movies. 4k if im not mistaken, doesn't even have any classic black and white movies yet.

So you’re saying you do not have the knowledge or facts to back up your own statement. Just trolling then?

[AgentOrange]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

The home video market was a lot stronger in 2008.

True, but it's actually doing better than I thought it would so far (re: the catalog titles they are releasing). I was afraid it would quickly shift to "New release" only, and then disappear as a format after maybe 5 years. But it looks like it will have better staying power, perhaps all the way through to the end of physical media

It seems like we should at least get most of the A-list action titles from the 80's forward at least. Hopefully boutique labels step in so we can get some more dramas and epics that the studios might not want to bother with.

[nick4Knight]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

The home video market was a lot stronger in 2008.

I feel it's more about on blu-ray you had "plug and play" transfers from the DVD/HDTV scanning age in the early 2000's.

Bunch of 2K scans ready to go from a time studios were cranking scans out and would invest more as the cable/licensing TV market returned investment.

UHD requires a home video department to prepare a fresh scan on 4K, clean up specks and stuff, then do a HDR grade, and get consulting from DP or director approval... And it has to be of a standard to get released and received/sell well. Though obviously there are outliers to this.. no need to bring them up, they are a handful of 350.