TrueHD or DTS-HD MA when Star Wars (& other Lucasfilm movies) comes to Blu-ray? Both?

[WickyWoo]

It'll be Dolby TrueHD

What about THX-High-Def! (imageine that!)

THX is a set of certifications, it's not a format or codec

[HDJK]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

It'll be Dolby TrueHD

That came out of the blu sky . Care to elaborate?

[Kayne314]

If you've heard DTS HD-MA decoded by a THX certified receiver like I have, you'd vote for it hands down. Dolby TrueHD is an extraordinarily close second.

All the factors of Lucas/Dolby aside. I'd like to hear it in DTS HD-MA. Being that it is Fox I'm sure it will be considered fully.

Either way, Lucas has never let us down sound-wise before. I'm positive he'll give us the best audio experience no matter what format it is in.

[Nooff]

Why would one like to have True HD AND DTS HD-MA on the same disc? Technically they do exactly the same, which means it's a waste of space to have both. IF Star Wars comes out, it will be distributed by Fox which means it will be DTS HD-MA. We can specualte all we want, but why should we if we already know how it's gonna end up?

[blindcat87]

I agree about the double format on one disc, but you are completely wrong about the Fox= DTS thing.

Fox only distributes the Star Wars films. Lucas has absolute, total control over the content and both technical and creative choices. Fox won't even be mastering it. It will be done in house by Lucas and his people or outside by persons of his choice under his approval.

Chris

Originally Posted by Nooff

Why would one like to have True HD AND DTS HD-MA on the same disc? Technically they do exactly the same, which means it's a waste of space to have both. IF Star Wars comes out, it will be distributed by Fox which means it will be DTS HD-MA. We can specualte all we want, but why should we if we already know how it's gonna end up?

[WickyWoo]

That came out of the blu sky . Care to elaborate?

Lucas has a longstanding relationship with Dolby, he'll continue using their codecs just like Spielberg and DTS

If you've heard DTS HD-MA decoded by a THX certified receiver like I have, you'd vote for it hands down. Dolby TrueHD is an extraordinarily close second.

What you're hearing is DTS being slightly louder, and they tend to cook people's mixes to emphasize LFE and other things that philes like. They did this all the time with DVD. Saving Private Ryan being a notorious example. DTS right now is doing all the HDMA encodes so far as I know. What you're hearing is not the quality of the codec, you're tasting their spiked drinks, or a personal bias carried over from DVD. Lossless is lossless.

Fox only distributes the Star Wars films. Lucas has absolute, total control over the content and both technical and creative choices. Fox won't even be mastering it. It will be done in house by Lucas and his people or outside by persons of his choice under his approval.

Van Ling did both trilogies on DVD. Van is also responsible for all Jamese Cameron DVDs except Aliens (Charles de Lazurika as part of the Alien Quad), as well as Independendence Day.

[Darth-Blu]

I sense something ..... something I haven't felt since .....

Watching T2 on blu which is THX certified, and it has both Dolby and DTS, so I'm hoping both. DTS (in general) sounds SO much better!

Give me a little bit. I'll go shuttle up to the Death Star to check with the boss, and I'll get right back to everyone.

[HDJK]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Lucas has a longstanding relationship with Dolby, he'll continue using their codecs just like Spielberg and DTS



What you're hearing is DTS being slightly louder, and they tend to cook people's mixes to emphasize LFE and other things that philes like. They did this all the time with DVD. Saving Private Ryan being a notorious example. DTS right now is doing all the HDMA encodes so far as I know. What you're hearing is not the quality of the codec, you're tasting their spiked drinks, or a personal bias carried over from DVD. Lossless is lossless.



Van Ling did both trilogies on DVD. Van is also responsible for all Jamese Cameron DVDs except Aliens (Charles de Lazurika as part of the Alien Quad), as well as Independendence Day.

Thanks.

[CAB]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Lucas has a longstanding relationship with Dolby, he'll continue using their codecs just like Spielberg and DTS



What you're hearing is DTS being slightly louder, and they tend to cook people's mixes to emphasize LFE and other things that philes like. They did this all the time with DVD. Saving Private Ryan being a notorious example. DTS right now is doing all the HDMA encodes so far as I know. What you're hearing is not the quality of the codec, you're tasting their spiked drinks, or a personal bias carried over from DVD. Lossless is lossless.



Van Ling did both trilogies on DVD. Van is also responsible for all Jamese Cameron DVDs except Aliens (Charles de Lazurika as part of the Alien Quad), as well as Independendence Day.

I did a write-in vote for Wicky in the New Hampshire primaries.

[Kayne314]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Lucas has a longstanding relationship with Dolby, he'll continue using their codecs just like Spielberg and DTS



What you're hearing is DTS being slightly louder, and they tend to cook people's mixes to emphasize LFE and other things that philes like. They did this all the time with DVD. Saving Private Ryan being a notorious example. DTS right now is doing all the HDMA encodes so far as I know. What you're hearing is not the quality of the codec, you're tasting their spiked drinks, or a personal bias carried over from DVD. Lossless is lossless.



Van Ling did both trilogies on DVD. Van is also responsible for all Jamese Cameron DVDs except Aliens (Charles de Lazurika as part of the Alien Quad), as well as Independendence Day.

I would disagree slightly with the highlighted part. Properly decoded by the receiver the DTS HD-MA is not louder. In fact, on my set-up when I listen to a Dolby TrueHD signal, I am set at an ideal volume level of -15. When I put in a DTS HD-MA disk I find the ideal level to be -10 to -5.( -5 being louder on my receiver than -15) If anything the DTS HD-MA codec is forcing less volume into the mix than Dolby TrueHD.

I do however, notice slightly better separation in the speakers and a miniscule improvement on dialog and surrounds when using DTS HD-MA over Dolby TrueHD.

Really these are such small differences it really doesn't matter much. Both are lossless audio codecs. I think the biggest difference lies in what the director was going for, and how well that translates to my BD.

Hell, I've heard Dolby Digital EX soundtracks that blew my socks off.

[TigerShark]

I prefer DTS HD MA; however, I do not mind TrueHD. Nonetheless, since Stars Wars are a high budget films, FOX should start using 7.1 audio (just like New Line), instead of 5.1 audio. It make sense, New Line’s films cost the same price as FOX’s, but they all contain 7.1 DTS HD MA track, if New Line can do it then so can FOX. FOX’s films are overprized; they should make an extra effort to use 7.1 audio.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by TigerShark

I prefer DTS HD MA; however, I do not mind TrueHD. Nonetheless, since Stars Wars are a high budget films, FOX should start using 7.1 audio (just like New Line), instead of 5.1 audio. It make sense, New Line’s films cost the same price as FOX’s, but they all contain 7.1 DTS HD MA track, if New Line can do it then so can FOX. FOX’s films are overprized; they should make an extra effort to use 7.1 audio.

Fox' release of 'The Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader' was the first theatrical release to be mixed in the new 'Dolby' 7.1 sound configurement - so yes, I think we will be seeing newer films being release as such to the theaters AND on bluray.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

Fox' release of 'The Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader' was the first theatrical release to be mixed in the new 'Dolby' 7.1 sound configurement - so yes, I think we will be seeing newer films being release as such to the theaters AND on bluray.

That is incorrect. Toy Story 3 was the first theatrical release to utilize the new Dolby 7.1 sound scape.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

That is incorrect. Toy Story 3 was the first theatrical release to utilize the new Dolby 7.1 sound scape.

yes I know that, 'Voyage of the Dawn Treader' though is Fox's first film to be released such.

[ArrestedDevelopment]

DTS HD MA please!

[poke smot]

i use to prefer dts hd, but after watching cloverfield (best audio ever), which is dolby true, Ill take either.

[HeavyHitter]

DTS MA vs TrueHD argument = "my 1 and 0's are better than your 1 and 0's."

[bigrob]

would prefer DTS-MA but am expecting Dolby . not particulary fussed to be honest
just hoping they don't rehash the Dolby Digital Surround EX from the DVD's for this set!
Now that would be a kick in the teeth

[RiseDarthVader]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

DTS MA vs TrueHD argument = "my 1 and 0's are better than your 1 and 0's."

Yep this is exactly where this thread is going to head. No matter how much we explain what lossless is people will think 1 is better then the other.

[Canada]

I don't see a reason it won't be DTS-MA just like the rest of Fox's releases.