Do I need 4K pass through?

[Torgon]

Originally Posted by happydood

Sorry to dust off this old chesnutt, but I wanna finally invest in a UHD player and the Jaws UHD. My tv is 4k and HDR ready, but my 7.1 receiver does not have 4k passthrough.

My question: can I run a new player directly to the tv and then separately run the player to the receiver via hdmi for uncompressed sound? I'd love to jump in, but my receiver is still solid and I'm not ready to invest in a new one in addition to the player...

Thanks for any insights...

Yes, pretty easy to do. I had a LG 970 player with two HDMI out ports; One to the TV and one to the receiver. It worked fine and I didn’t have any lip sync issues. The main issue I had with it is that I had to switch the TV over to another HDMI port to watch it each time. I finally upgraded my receiver and now it just runs through without having to switch my input back and forth.

[chip75]

Haven't had any real issues with syncing, thankfully it's one of my only devices that doesn't have problems.

A splitter can also work, but you'd need to research one that doesn't downscale video/audio to the lowest device, but you're better off with a player with two HDMI outputs.

[happydood]

Hi again guys! It's been a few months: working at home and raising children in the current environment is something else! BUT! I finally picked up a 4K player and ran it to my tv to sample the video and it looks pretty great. Now... that pesky problem rears its head. My receiver is 4k but has no HDR passthrough. To which HDMI port in my non-HDR, but 4k receiver do I run the sound out of the player while running video into the tv?

Help, please, and thanks in advance for your wonderful insights!

[oddbox83]

Originally Posted by happydood

Hi again guys! It's been a few months: working at home and raising children in the current environment is something else! BUT! I finally picked up a 4K player and ran it to my tv to sample the video and it looks pretty great. Now... that pesky problem rears its head. My receiver is 4k but has no HDR passthrough. To which HDMI port in my non-HDR, but 4k receiver do I run the sound out of the player while running video into the tv?

Help, please, and thanks in advance for your wonderful insights!

Right, so has the player got an audio only HDMI-out? Run that to the receiver into any preferred HDMI input. It's as simple as that. Just set both the TV and receiver to the correct inputs when viewing as, obviously, they won't be one and the same anymore.

[happydood]

Originally Posted by oddbox83

Right, so has the player got an audio only HDMI-out? Run that to the receiver into any preferred HDMI input. It's as simple as that. Just set both the TV and receiver to the correct inputs when viewing as, obviously, they won't be one and the same anymore.

Thanks a bunch, oddbox! I literally just figured it out right before I came back here and saw this. It works a treat and I'm in business!

[happydood]

Editing after researching:

So I'm coming across the dreaded ARC issue. If I pause a movie during playback, my receiver will automatically default to the TV setting. I have HDMI control on for the UHD player but since I'm running it to the tv, I have to manually switch the receiver back to it's audio input if I pause, fast forward or anything else. Is there any kind of work around for this? I'm using the tv for all the fam's streaming purposes, so I need to have the sound going into the receiver. As always, your guys' help is much appreciated!

[oddbox83]

You’ll probably have to disable HDMI control/CEC in the player. Presuming it’s the player and not the TV that’s the culprit.

[happydood]

Originally Posted by oddbox83

You’ll probably have to disable HDMI control/CEC in the player. Presuming it’s the player and not the TV that’s the culprit.

Oddbox, you're top-shelf. That worked.

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by william273

I had everything set up wrong but after talking with Samsung tech support it's working but I'm wondering if I need 4k pass through...the picture looks ok.

My tv is a 55 inch Samsung MU6300 4K TV...LG UP875 4K blu ray player and a Samsung HWR550 2.1 sound bar with rear speakers. The blu ray player is connected out from the HDMI to HDMI in on the sound bar and from the HDMI ARC from the sound bar to HDMI ARC on the TV. I'm just using the sound bar for watching movies on the blu ray player. I use the TV speakers when watching TV...I have no cable or Netflix so don't need the sound bar for TV...only for blu ray player.

I hear talk about losing resolution if you don't have 4k pass through but the picture still looks fine and I don't think any of this equipment has 4K pass through but it still looks 4k and not 1080...as far as I can tell. My concern is now I'm running my player straight to the sound bar instead of to the TV HDMI and was using optical from the player to the sound bar. Since everything is running to the sound bar via HDMI and ARC and ARC to TV...do I need to worry about 4K pass through or am I ok as is?

For best results, it is recommended that you connect the player directly to both your display and your sound device. That way, your sound device won't potentially do anything to the video signal, even if it can "pass through" 4K video encoded in HDR10+ and/or Dolby Vision. While an HDMI 2.0 or later cable is required for connection to the display, your sound device can be connected with one of your existing HDMI 1.3 or later cables. Make sure your player is set to bitstream and that secondary audio is disabled.

Update: Your player only has one HDMI output, not two like on most Ultra HD Blu-ray players. Therefore, it is not possible for you to make direct connections.

[happydood]

So, friends... the AV/Sync issue is killing me. I have HDMI into my tv from my UHD player and also sound through HDMI out of my UHD player and into my receiver. Sync is off from title to title. I keep adjusting my receiver, but there is no catchall setting for everything. Picture looks great on my 4K tv for UHD and blu-ray, but I'll adjust for one title, get it right, and then another will be off. I probably just need to upgrade my receiver to a direct pass-through situation, yes?

Any insights are always appreciated. Thanks, all!


Edit: realizing my eyes might have been off and had only been taking baby steps with the AV/Sync settings last night. Got up and tried a lot of different discs today and settled on it being 120 MS off! Seems excessive, but am hoping it can hold me off from having to upgrade my receiver till later in the year. This whole function is new to me since upgrading my player to UHD and having to run the sound to the receiver but the video to the tv...

[Scarriere]

Are you able to adjust the sync from the UHD player?
Maybe put the delay on the AVR to 0 or neutral, then try adjusting from the players menu?

[happydood]

Originally Posted by Scarriere

Are you able to adjust the sync from the UHD player?
Maybe put the delay on the AVR to 0 or neutral, then try adjusting from the players menu?

Thanks for the insight, Scarriere. There's no AV Sync on the player, but I did set it to PCM rather than auto. I'm gonna sit with it for a few and see how it plays out, but I watched a movie this afternoon on blu and it played without issue. I chose The Man Who Wasn't There- wanted a dialogue-heavy title... and there were no issues. The problem is that after adjusting the AV Sync on the receiver in the past, all seemed well for a title or two- I hate to think the receiver is going south, but we'll see how it pans out...

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by william273

I had everything set up wrong but after talking with Samsung tech support it's working but I'm wondering if I need 4k pass through...the picture looks ok.

My tv is a 55 inch Samsung MU6300 4K TV...LG UP875 4K blu ray player and a Samsung HWR550 2.1 sound bar with rear speakers. The blu ray player is connected out from the HDMI to HDMI in on the sound bar and from the HDMI ARC from the sound bar to HDMI ARC on the TV. I'm just using the sound bar for watching movies on the blu ray player. I use the TV speakers when watching TV...I have no cable or Netflix so don't need the sound bar for TV...only for blu ray player.

I hear talk about losing resolution if you don't have 4k pass through but the picture still looks fine and I don't think any of this equipment has 4K pass through but it still looks 4k and not 1080...as far as I can tell. My concern is now I'm running my player straight to the sound bar instead of to the TV HDMI and was using optical from the player to the sound bar. Since everything is running to the sound bar via HDMI and ARC and ARC to TV...do I need to worry about 4K pass through or am I ok as is?

I would advise you to connect your player directly to both your display and sound device, but your player model only features a single HDMI connection.