Xbox 360 outsells PS3 and Wii (in the US)

[xtop]

Originally Posted by Cory108

That looks good but not hyped up enough.

there are screens???

Originally Posted by Ascended_Saiyan

Personally, all I care about are worldwide numbers. Everyone should know that the Xbox will always do well in the US. Can someone provide the worldwide numbers for the holidays?

why do you care at all

[Cory108]

I bought the Xbox 360 Hd DVD Drive last year while I was waiting in the PS3 line and to date I own 16. I have bought 29 Blu Rays since Christmas. I did buy NIN's Beside You In Time when it was released without a blu ray player. Because I am a NIN fanatic. I love Blu Ray and support it.

The PS2 is great too. I still have the original Bulky one, not that slimline crap. Never use it anymore though, unless I have a GTA crave.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Personally, all I care about are worldwide numbers. Everyone should know that the Xbox will always do well in the US. Can someone provide the worldwide numbers for the holidays?

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by Cory108

I read about the 360s problem with the three rings of death. I still have the console I got from launch. I bought another one for the Hdmi port. The overheating has a lot to do with the idiots who lay it down on their carpet and leave it on for 48 hours. Without proper ventilation, you might as well kiss your console goodbye.

Speaking as an Engineer, bite me. All of my coworkers(and myself) know damn well how to keep a device like this cool, and not a single one of us has not seen a RRoD. Not one!

The RRoD is a manufacturing/design flaw. Period. It doesn't matter how intelligent you are, it WILL happen to you if you have an original 360, unless you never turn the damn thing on, or you are insanely lucky.

The only thing keeping the RRoD rate on original 360s down is time. It will approach 100% as time goes on.

[Cory108]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Speaking as an Engineer, bite me. All of my coworkers(and myself) know damn well how to keep a device like this cool, and not a single one of us has not seen a RRoD. Not one!

The RRoD is a manufacturing/design flaw. Period. It doesn't matter how intelligent you are, it WILL happen to you if you have an original 360, unless you never turn the damn thing on, or you are insanely lucky.

The only thing keeping the RRoD rate on original 360s down is time. It will approach 100% as time goes on.

The new 360s have been redesigned with better heatsinks and upgraded hardware so that problem will not happen again.

I also know many engineers, do you design consoles? Didn't think so. Oh yeah, anyone who starts that 2 year program in High School can graduate as an engineer. Too bad the civil engineers make more moolah.

What do you do? Maybe you happen to work in the MS sweatshop where the engineers (who earned that title in HS) can only follow what the company tells them to do. The Red Ring of Death was a common problem, but it was user dependent really. I can probably leave my launch console on for a year and not have that problem. Good ventilation, Good performance. Keeping a computer in a hot room with no circulation also kills it, right?

Mac or Pc, Xbox or PS3, Blu Ray or Hd DVD, it all comes down to what you think is right for you.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by Cory108

The new 360s have been redesigned with better heatsinks and upgraded hardware so that problem will not happen again.

That's why I refer to original 360s, and didn't mention the new ones at all.

I also know many engineers, do you design consoles? Didn't think so.

Are you this dumb?

My 360 is sitting on a glass countertop with a fan blowing across it (with nothing within 2 feet of it). Yet I've still RRoD'd twice.

Only an extreme 360 fanboy doubts the RRoD as a real problem. Glad you could point out what you are so quickly though.

[Brons2]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Speaking as an Engineer, bite me. All of my coworkers(and myself) know damn well how to keep a device like this cool, and not a single one of us has not seen a RRoD. Not one!

The RRoD is a manufacturing/design flaw. Period. It doesn't matter how intelligent you are, it WILL happen to you if you have an original 360, unless you never turn the damn thing on, or you are insanely lucky.

The only thing keeping the RRoD rate on original 360s down is time. It will approach 100% as time goes on.

My roomate pre-ordered his 360 and had it on the first or 2nd day after launch. He's now on his 4th unit.

He did also buy a PS3 as soon as they came out and had that fail also but the replacement has been rock solid.

The Wii has been very reliable, but the picture is so-so.

The 360 definitely gets the most play but his PS3 gets a lot of Blu movie usage.

I just got my own PS3, the 40GB model. Have yet to play a game on it but I have watched movies, streamed music off of my NAS and surfed the web on my 56" RPTV. lol.

[Banjo]

Originally Posted by Brons2

The Wii has been very reliable, but the picture is so-so.

You can't really expect much from a 480p signal. Though I must say Super Mario Galaxy looked quite nice.

[mr peepers]

im a 360 user and proud of it.

this console has wasted away countless hours of my life as im sure the ps3 has and will waste away many hours of your guys' lives. haha

it all comes down to 2 big factors: price tag and games available on each system. and right now, 360 is dominating in both of those categories.

both systems perform great and have their own strong points. 360 had their big "red rings of death" issue which sucked, but im extremely surprised microsoft took the initiative and recalled all of those units swapping them out with new ones. clearly microsoft made a huge mistake allowing something like that to even happen, but i'll give them credit for doing the right thing by replacing those consoles and spending a sh*t ton of money doing so.

either way, everyone is going to love their ps3, everyone will love their wii and everyone will love their 360. i love my 360. just because ps3 has blu ray capabilities does not make it the superior player. for all the blu-ray fans out there, including myself, this may be a huge deal to them. but to all the kids out there that just want waste people on halo, chainsaw the crap out of people in gears of war, snipe people in call of duty or just dominate in any other game, who gives a flip?

let everyone enjoy their gaming console for what it is. thats all.

[TheEnd187]

Originally Posted by mr peepers

im a 360 user and proud of it.

this console has wasted away countless hours of my life as im sure the ps3 has and will waste away many hours of your guys' lives. haha

it all comes down to 2 big factors: price tag and games available on each system. and right now, 360 is dominating in both of those categories.

both systems perform great and have their own strong points. 360 had their big "red rings of death" issue which sucked, but im extremely surprised microsoft took the initiative and recalled all of those units swapping them out with new ones. clearly microsoft made a huge mistake allowing something like that to even happen, but i'll give them credit for doing the right thing by replacing those consoles and spending a sh*t ton of money doing so.

either way, everyone is going to love their ps3, everyone will love their wii and everyone will love their 360. i love my 360. just because ps3 has blu ray capabilities does not make it the superior player. for all the blu-ray fans out there, including myself, this may be a huge deal to them. but to all the kids out there that just want waste people on halo, chainsaw the crap out of people in gears of war, snipe people in call of duty or just dominate in any other game, who gives a flip?

let everyone enjoy their gaming console for what it is. thats all.

When did Microsoft have a recall? Im pretty sure they are just waiting till your box breaks, then they fix it and send you one they someone else sent in that has already been fixed, only a few lucky people get a new one, not a refurbished one.

And @ikcizokm WTF are PS2's doing in a day care center? You may consider taking your kids to a better place, no offense or anything

[Lou-Cipher]

If Sony made us all buy 3-4 Playstations do to crappy reliability im sure those numbers would not be that important to the X-Box fan. By the way I have had 3 X-Box 360's, but decided to give that horrable system up after the third one broke. AGAIN!!!

[shido]

Originally Posted by Cory108

This pertains to the economic outlook of the PS3. I support all. I own every console and both formats.

Although, I will not buy another HD-DVD unless it is on a Buy one, get two free special.

I love the look of the PS3. I just had a bad experience when it came out. I was one of those crazy a$$holes who camped outside for 2 days waiting for this great new thing.

I get it home, watch Talladega Nights. The next day, nothing. It wouldn't load the BD. I got the games in the mail from GameFly, nothing. I took it to Best Buy to exchange it. But there were not any consoles to exchange for before x-mas. That is what got me from the start.

I read about the 360s problem with the three rings of death. I still have the console I got from launch. I bought another one for the Hdmi port. The overheating has a lot to do with the idiots who lay it down on their carpet and leave it on for 48 hours. Without proper ventilation, you might as well kiss your console goodbye.

I haven't seen a PS3 only game that really defined the system. PS3 needs its own "Halo" in order to attract a new market segment.

Hey now, I know there are a lot of dumbasses out there who would play their 360 on a carpet, but my friends and I certainly aren't one of them. And yet all of us have had our 360s die on us at least once (mines twice). So I'm convinced it's a design flaw, not completely human error.

[Terjyn]

Now that I've seen the actual data, some of this is fun stuff.

Originally Posted by Cory108

Xbox 360 sold 1.3 million consoles in December alone...In December, NPD stated that Sony sold 798,000 PS3 hardware units.

Round the Xbox 360 numbers from 1.26 million to 1.3 million, while barely rounding the PS3 number at all.

Since PS3’s launch in November 2006, Xbox 360 has outsold PS3 by nearly 2:1 on average

In November/December of last year, the PS3 was stock limited.

In 2007, they outsold the PS3 1.8:1, which is quite a far cry off from 2:1. I believe they are using HD-DVD math.

o NPD reported that this holiday’s leading multiplatform blockbusters continue to sell better on Xbox 360:

They damn well better considering how many more consoles you have out there.

o Xbox 360 continues to lead in number of games sold per console, setting another record with an attach rate of 7.0 games per console.

Sigh. They DO go back to attach rate. Morons.

We’re not slowing down in 2008. The next versions of powerhouse franchises like "Grand Theft Auto," "Resident Evil" and sports games like "Madden", "FIFA", and "Pro Evolution Soccer" open up a new arena for game play on Xbox 360.

Why do 360ites always claim any and all cross platform games as belonging to them?

[Cory108]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Round the Xbox 360 numbers from 1.26 million to 1.3 million, while barely rounding the PS3 number at all.

Irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Terjyn

In November/December of last year, the PS3 was stock limited.

Sony's problem.

Originally Posted by Terjyn

In 2007, they outsold the PS3 1.8:1, which is quite a far cry off from 2:1.

Not really. So instead of every 20 360s per 10 PS3, it is 18 360s to every 10 PS3s.

Originally Posted by Terjyn

I believe they are using HD-DVD math.

What math is that, special engineering math?

Originally Posted by Terjyn

They damn well better considering how many more consoles you have out there.

Again, relevance?

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Sigh. They DO go back to attach rate. Morons.

This one speaks for itself.

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Why do 360ites always claim any and all cross platform games as belonging to them?

It isn't that they belong to us, it is more of the fact that most gamers chooses the 360 version over the PS3. Yeah we pay to play online (with full capabilities), we have achievements, and have actual rumble in the controller. OH yeah and if the battery dies, we can slap a new rechargeable pack or 2 new batteries in without having to connect a cord into the console to play.

[xtop]

Originally Posted by Cory108

It isn't that they belong to us, it is more of the fact that most gamers chooses the 360 version over the PS3. Yeah we pay to play online (with full capabilities), we have achievements, and have actual rumble in the controller. OH yeah and if the battery dies, we can slap a new rechargeable pack or 2 new batteries in without having to connect a cord into the console to play.

actually i prefer no battery pack, thanks. do you know of anyone thats needed to replace the controller?

[xtop]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Now that I've seen the actual data, some of this is fun stuff.


Round the Xbox 360 numbers from 1.26 million to 1.3 million, while barely rounding the PS3 number at all.


In November/December of last year, the PS3 was stock limited.

In 2007, they outsold the PS3 1.8:1, which is quite a far cry off from 2:1. I believe they are using HD-DVD math.


They damn well better considering how many more consoles you have out there.


Sigh. They DO go back to attach rate. Morons.


Why do 360ites always claim any and all cross platform games as belonging to them?

what would you like the ps3 number round up to exactly?

1.8:1 rounded to 2:1 is exactly what is done when blu-ray wins a week btw.

and in one sentence you complain about how many more consoles there are and that they should sell more software, then ask why multi-platform games belong to them....

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by xtop

what would you like the ps3 number round up to exactly?

Is it so hard to not round either one?

1.8:1 rounded to 2:1 is exactly what is done when blu-ray wins a week btw.

Bull. Find me one single post which does this anywhere on this site.

and in one sentence you complain about how many more consoles there are and that they should sell more software, then ask why multi-platform games belong to them....

You miss the point. I don't care that they have them, nor that they sell more.

I care about the fact that they act like they are the ONLY one to have them.

[xtop]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Is it so hard to not round either one?


Bull. Find me one single post which does this anywhere on this site.


You miss the point. I don't care that they have them, nor that they sell more.

I care about the fact that they act like they are the ONLY one to have them.

for all those weeks when the lead clearly wasn't 2:1, it was still said to be 2:1 ratio. yeah it was close, but usually rounded. both up and down. its not a big deal

but i suppose i can see your point on how they brush it off like it only matters that they get the game

[Terjyn]

Hmm. For most of the year the overall ratio was 66:34, that was 2:1, and most of the references to 2:1 were referring to that.

Fair enough though. I think what bugged me about it was the wishy washy language.

"Nearly 2:1 on average" is almost meaningless.

[PS3ds]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

...Why do 360ites always claim any and all cross platform games as belonging to them?

Word... Its because the original CrapBox had none.

It should be noted that world wide figures AFTER the holiday season put the PS3 at 11 million and M$ just recently reported 17 million.

I find it amusing after just 1 year on the market, with the higher price tag, the PS3 is already cutting into the 360 1 year head start.

The BD victory over HD-DUD basically means that they could STOP making games for the PS3 and it would still out live the CrapBox 360 and the little kid Wii.