PS5 games use BD-66 and BD-100 but Xbox Series X games are still limited to BD-50

[BrownianMotion]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

If games were run directly off the Blu-ray disc instead of being installed to the SSD then the Blu-ray drive would certainly be the bottleneck, not the GPU or CPU. I believe that's the point that BijouMan was making.

He would be correct then, but that would be one of those "captain obvious" type posts. Blu-ray drives have far slower read speeds than even HDDs, and HDDs were already a bottleneck in certain situations in previous generations (primarily in loading times.)

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

He would be correct then, but that would be one of those "captain obvious" type posts. Blu-ray drives have far slower read speeds than even HDDs, and HDDs were already a bottleneck in certain situations in previous generations (primarily in loading times.)

Well, I'm not that mean, so I didn't "captain obvious" him, but I was a little bit bothered that he didn't think I knew that.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

Well, I'm not that mean, so I didn't "captain obvious" him, but I was a little bit bothered that he didn't think I knew that.

There have been a few posters that complained at length that games require an install and wanted to return to the time when you could play games directly off the disc. Those people were obviously ignoring all the benefits of installing to a SSD instead.

A "captain obvious" post is therefore an appropriate response to any complaint about installs.

[BrownianMotion]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

There have been a few posters that complained at length that games require an install and wanted to return to the time when you could play games directly off the disc. Those people were obviously ignoring all the benefits of installing to a SSD instead.

A "captain obvious" post is therefore an appropriate response to any complaint about installs.

Pretty sure no one wanted to return to the days of games being run directly off disc. That hasn't been the case in many many years.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

Stopped mattering when games started requiring full installations. It's a hassle with one disc or two.



Never had to do that with any of my PS4 games. I would have noticed.

do you have a PS5? The PS5 (internet or BD) does not require a full DL/install to start playing. That is why I found it off that the xbox series x needs to install both disks before you can start.


To put it old school as long as the first level is on the machine why not let the person start with that. Don't get me wrong today they ere open world games but even then you need to start somewhere.

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

do you have a PS5? The PS5 (internet or BD) does not require a full DL/install to start playing. That is why I found it off that the xbox series x needs to install both disks before you can start.


To put it old school as long as the first level is on the machine why not let the person start with that. Don't get me wrong today they ere open world games but even then you need to start somewhere.

The data on PS5 and PS4 discs is organized in order of playability. The data to make the game even bootable comes first, followed by the first parts of the game, then the next parts, and so on. After the data required to start the game is transferred, the game can start with just those parts while the disc keeps transferring, with more parts becoming available as the disc is transferred. A full BD-100 disc should take about 45 minutes to transfer.

[Hydra Spectre]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

Here are the discs that PlayStation software has been able to be distributed on:

PlayStation: CD
PlayStation 2: CD, DVD-5, DVD-9
PlayStation 3: BD-25, BD-50
PlayStation 4: BD-25, BD-50
PlayStation 5: BD-66, BD-100

Here are the discs that Xbox software has been able to be distributed on:

Xbox: DVD-9
Xbox 360: DVD-9
Xbox One: BD-25, BD-50
Xbox Series X: BD-25, BD-50

Xbox sticking with older disc formats is hurting them.
What was especially egregious was when Final Fantasy XIII came on three discs on Xbox 360 while the PS3 version had everything in a BD-50, while the Xbox 360 was extremely gimped compared to the PS3 version.
Xbox 360 not using Blu-rays was so infamous that Hideo Kojima thought that he would've needed up to 7 discs if he would port Metal Gear Solid 4 to the Xbox 360. (which is an overestimation, as the PS3 game would've fit into three Xbox 360 DVDs).

[tcripe]

You should pick up a physical copy of a game thats only compatible for series X and not standard Xbox One. Like NBA 2K22, Microsoft Flight Sim or F1 22 etc etc. Curious to see if those disks are any different.

[Wingman1977]

[BijouMan]

Rockstar Games recently released discs for the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X versions of Grand Theft Auto V. The PlayStation 5 version is on one BD-100 and the Xbox Series X version is on two BD-50s.

Here are eBay listings for both from the same seller.
PlayStation 5
Xbox Series X

[HDTV1080P]

It is better to release large games on a BD-100 then to release them on two BD-66's or two BD-50’s since no disc swap needed with the BD-100.

[Naiera]

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[Blu Cider]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

It is better to release large games on a BD-100 then to release them on two BD-66's or two BD-50’s since no disc swap needed with the BD-100.

Irrelevant as none of these consoles access data from the discs when playing games. Everything is installed to the SSD.
This is not the PS3/360 days anymore.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Blu Cider

Irrelevant as none of these consoles access data from the discs when playing games. Everything is installed to the SSD.
This is not the PS3/360 days anymore.

I would call it mostly irrelevant. I don't know how it works since I don't have an xbox and don't have any games on the PS6 tyhat use more than one. But if it comes on two BD-50 and while I am playing the first time the game pauses and a message appears "please swap to continue install" that would be needlessly slightly annoying.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by Blu Cider

Irrelevant as none of these consoles access data from the discs when playing games. Everything is installed to the SSD.
This is not the PS3/360 days anymore.

Even if everything is being installed to a solid-state drive or hard drive, one still has to swap optical discs to install the game.
If the game comes on one BD-100 it makes the install process easier instead of two BD-66 discs.