Star Trek V and VI 4k - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

Krynoid-Man · 06-18-2022, 07:13 PM

Not a big fan of either of these, but they are still OG Trek so I will still buy them day one.

suspiciouscoffee · 06-18-2022, 07:14 PM

I’m still hoping to sell my old set before I get the new discs. It’s a limited edition import thing with lots of extra stuff but nobody on ebay wanted it.

Bates_Motel · 06-18-2022, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poya

In a perfect world, V would only stay as a VHS release.

Actually, in a perfect world. Shatner would get to properly make a Director's Cut and present them film as originally intended.

suspiciouscoffee · 06-18-2022, 07:28 PM

In a super perfect would they would actually put seatbelts in theaters for it.

Maximux · 06-18-2022, 08:21 PM

I was lucky to get the first 4, they sold so fast, looking ahead for the rest of all Star Trek in 4k

HenriDeadMort · 06-19-2022, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poya

in a perfect world, all but only v would only stay as a vhs release.

ftfy

Wtdk · 06-19-2022, 07:48 PM

It would be nice if Paramount would allow Shatner to go back with the completed footage and new cgi to do a ‘Director’s Cut”. I don’t know that all of,the footage necessary was shot or not. There’s a decent film buried in there somewhere.

Bolty · 06-19-2022, 08:22 PM

He completed all the filming of the Rockman pursuing Kirk from the shuttle all the way up the rocks until the BOP appears to save him. When the Rockman suit footage was deemed unusable they cut out most of the footage and just added the "Godhead" to a couple of shots. With CGI they could replace the Rockman stunt guy and have the full chase sequence with Kirk climbing the cliff -- which is obviously a callback to him climbing the mountain at the beginning. Except this time it's not "because it's there" -- but to save his life.
The expanded soundtrack by Jerry Goldsmith clearly indicates that Kirk being chased was far longer -- as he had scored it using rough cut footage of the scene. When they cut the scene way down Goldsmith shortened the score a lot.
If Shatner could be persuaded to remove the 6-8 minutes of "funny" footage that he was against in the first place and replace it with an equal amount of action or serious dialogue footage and upgrade the FX -- you'd end up with a pretty good movie instead of a weak movie that contains a bunch of great "Big 3" scenes.
It's not going to happen because they clearly would have hyped a new Director's Cut the same way they did for the TMP DE. If they for some reason chose not to hype it would mean they were able to keep even the slightest peep out of the news for many months --not likely.

bladelia · 06-19-2022, 09:06 PM

V is on a par with X with just how bad it is.

Ben_UK · 06-20-2022, 06:57 AM

Even if they did it, the SFX would probably be some terrible looking cheap CGI anyway.

roguejp · 06-20-2022, 08:43 AM

I bet there'll be a hugh run for V now with the Strange New Worlds tie-in

....

Geoff D · 06-20-2022, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben_UK

Even if they did it, the SFX would probably be some terrible looking cheap CGI anyway.

So much this. I'd rather they leave Final Front Ear alone. It's not a masterpiece, it never was and it never will be, but I enjoy it immensely just the way it is.

dvining · 06-20-2022, 02:09 PM

I'd be interested to see the director's cut of V, just out of curiosity. It's just one of those small mythical what-ifs of 80s cinema. Would it have been saved if Shatner had been allowed to fully finish it? Hell, even in animatic or even storyboard form we might have an idea if the rock monsters would have made the movie better or worse.

mikesncc1701 · 06-20-2022, 02:36 PM

Marshmelons.

MifuneFan · 06-20-2022, 04:53 PM

They're up on Bullmoose, coming soon to the US

https://www.bullmoose.com/p/35424364...lu-ray-digital

https://www.bullmoose.com/pid/354243...lu-ray-digital

RCRochester · 06-20-2022, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Star Trek V is awesome. It has the best character moments of any of the films.

Row, Row, Row Your Boat > The Kelvin films.

I've always enjoyed Final Frontier. Of all the original cast Trek movies, it's the only that just feels like a good, run-of-the-mill Trek adventure. I like the character moments, I also like the comic relief stuff. The finale falls flat on its face but it doesn't ruin the movie for me.

Gacivory · 06-20-2022, 05:22 PM

So those Bullmoose prices feel like it they are continuing the trend of No Blu-Ray’s included.

HD Goofnut · 06-20-2022, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gacivory

So those Bullmoose prices feel like it they are continuing the trend of No Blu-Ray’s included.

I'm fine with that. They back up just the same and there's always the trusty VUDU codes.

Bolty · 06-20-2022, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gacivory

So those Bullmoose prices feel like it they are continuing the trend of No Blu-Ray’s included.

The pre-order for the movies on Blu-ray say...
Blu-ray/digital
The 4K editions say...
4K UHD/Blu-ray/Digital

So at least for now they are indicating that the UHD set includes a Blu-ray and digital copy

Gacivory · 06-20-2022, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolty

The pre-order for the movies on Blu-ray say...
Blu-ray/digital
The 4K editions say...
4K UHD/Blu-ray/Digital

So at least for now they are indicating that the UHD set includes a Blu-ray and digital copy

I’m always iffy on preorder information. A lot of it could be placeholder info put in quickly or as an assumption on their part.

06-18-2022, 07:13 PM	#21
Krynoid-Man Special Member Member since:Sep 2020 Location:Newcastle Upon Tyne, England	Not a big fan of either of these, but they are still OG Trek so I will still buy them day one.

06-18-2022, 07:14 PM	#22
suspiciouscoffee Special Member Member since:Nov 2020 Location:Little Rock, AR, USA 4K collection:111 Blu-ray collection:439 DVD collection:57 Trading Score:1	I’m still hoping to sell my old set before I get the new discs. It’s a limited edition import thing with lots of extra stuff but nobody on ebay wanted it.

06-18-2022, 07:28 PM	#24
suspiciouscoffee Special Member Member since:Nov 2020 Location:Little Rock, AR, USA 4K collection:111 Blu-ray collection:439 DVD collection:57 Trading Score:1	In a super perfect would they would actually put seatbelts in theaters for it.

06-18-2022, 08:21 PM	#25
Maximux Expert Member Member since:Jul 2020 Location:Canada	I was lucky to get the first 4, they sold so fast, looking ahead for the rest of all Star Trek in 4k

06-19-2022, 07:48 PM	#27
Wtdk Special Member Member since:Nov 2011 Location:Northern california Blu-ray reviews: 32	It would be nice if Paramount would allow Shatner to go back with the completed footage and new cgi to do a ‘Director’s Cut”. I don’t know that all of,the footage necessary was shot or not. There’s a decent film buried in there somewhere.

06-19-2022, 08:22 PM	#28
Bolty Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Lake Worth Be...ah, no, Fl 4K collection:76 Blu-ray collection:100 Digital collection:93 Trading Score:82	He completed all the filming of the Rockman pursuing Kirk from the shuttle all the way up the rocks until the BOP appears to save him. When the Rockman suit footage was deemed unusable they cut out most of the footage and just added the "Godhead" to a couple of shots. With CGI they could replace the Rockman stunt guy and have the full chase sequence with Kirk climbing the cliff -- which is obviously a callback to him climbing the mountain at the beginning. Except this time it's not "because it's there" -- but to save his life. The expanded soundtrack by Jerry Goldsmith clearly indicates that Kirk being chased was far longer -- as he had scored it using rough cut footage of the scene. When they cut the scene way down Goldsmith shortened the score a lot. If Shatner could be persuaded to remove the 6-8 minutes of "funny" footage that he was against in the first place and replace it with an equal amount of action or serious dialogue footage and upgrade the FX -- you'd end up with a pretty good movie instead of a weak movie that contains a bunch of great "Big 3" scenes. It's not going to happen because they clearly would have hyped a new Director's Cut the same way they did for the TMP DE. If they for some reason chose not to hype it would mean they were able to keep even the slightest peep out of the news for many months --not likely.

06-19-2022, 09:06 PM	#29
bladelia Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:London 4K collection:549 Blu-ray collection:5329 Trading Score:37	V is on a par with X with just how bad it is.

06-20-2022, 06:57 AM	#30
Ben_UK Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2011 Location:Birmingham, UK 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:226 Blu-ray reviews:4	Even if they did it, the SFX would probably be some terrible looking cheap CGI anyway.

06-20-2022, 08:43 AM	#31
roguejp Power Member Member since:Jun 2012 Location:In a movie	I bet there'll be a hugh run for V now with the Strange New Worlds tie-in ....

06-20-2022, 02:09 PM	#33
dvining Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2011 Location:South Carolina 4K collection:304 Blu-ray collection:1531 DVD collection:31	I'd be interested to see the director's cut of V, just out of curiosity. It's just one of those small mythical what-ifs of 80s cinema. Would it have been saved if Shatner had been allowed to fully finish it? Hell, even in animatic or even storyboard form we might have an idea if the rock monsters would have made the movie better or worse.

06-20-2022, 02:36 PM	#34
mikesncc1701 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Jacksonville, FL Home Theater Gallery:3 4K collection:615 Blu-ray collection:2283 DVD collection:798 Digital collection:1270 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:50	Marshmelons.

06-20-2022, 04:53 PM	#35
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:1143 Trading Score:69	They're up on Bullmoose, coming soon to the US https://www.bullmoose.com/p/35424364...lu-ray-digital https://www.bullmoose.com/pid/354243...lu-ray-digital

06-20-2022, 05:22 PM	#37
Gacivory Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2016 Location:Los Angeles, California 4K collection:1121 Blu-ray collection:5611 DVD collection:183 Digital collection:25 Trading Score:1	So those Bullmoose prices feel like it they are continuing the trend of No Blu-Ray’s included.

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