The Movie Critic | Quentin Tarantino

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Just_Discovered_3D

That'd be interesting as I know of her for two reasons: her sensationalized statement about Nixon's election, and her screeds against Hollywood fetishizing hyperviolence.

Another critic who helped form the "rule of thumb" that the more the critics like a film, the more Middle America dislikes it (and vice-versa)?

There's industry scuttlebutt that Warren Beatty intentionally set her up to fail in her studio consulting gig. I think Biskind goes into it in his book, Easy Riders, Raging Bulls , which, while I'll admit is entertaining, came across like a tabloid parade of everyone's dirty laundry.

[dkelly26666]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

Bounty Law?

No, he said some months back that he had written a limited series type of thing and was shopping it around to do for a streamer service, and that he'd likely direct it himself, and it 'wouldn't count' as his tenth movie. It would be like an 8 part mini-series.

[dkelly26666]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

There's industry scuttlebutt that Warren Beatty intentionally set her up to fail in her studio consulting gig. I think Biskind goes into it in his book, Easy Riders, Raging Bulls , which, while I'll admit is entertaining, came across like a tabloid parade of everyone's dirty laundry.

I found it a real page turner back then, as I love that era of filmmaking. But since, became more skeptical about it. Some things you'd wonder how Biskind would even know, and other times people outright refuted it.

Spielberg, for example, has said that not one quote attributed to him in that book was true.

Who knows?

[klauswhereareyou]

Hopefully it's better than his recent book Cinema Speculation.

[spanky87]

As previously mentioned, knowing Tarantino’s affinity for Pauline Kael immediately makes one think the lead role will be a tribute to and partly inspired by her. But I’m sure it won’t be as simple as it sounds since all of Tarantino’s films have been violent, and the historical aspects highly fictionalized/revisionist.

The simple film-related title also makes me think of “The Stunt Man” which is one of Tarantino’s favourite films and a film that Pauline Kael was enthusiastic about.

One thing that seems disappointing is that this will likely be another nostalgic Hollywood period piece from QT. Something he already did with his last film.

[Hedrox]

Damn, Tarantino making a movie about this guy, what a time to be alive.



Hopefully this starts the Youtubers Cinematic Universe.

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

There's industry scuttlebutt that Warren Beatty intentionally set her up to fail in her studio consulting gig. I think Biskind goes into it in his book, Easy Riders, Raging Bulls , which, while I'll admit is entertaining, came across like a tabloid parade of everyone's dirty laundry.

The irony is that any one of us has likely heard more genuinely scandalous stories than are included in that book. In fact, in the TV doc adaptation of the book, Richard Dreyfuss admits to stuff that isn't in it, when describing his reaction to things revealed about him in another book. Namely Julia Phillips autobiog.

Easy Riders, Raging Bulls is a fairly good read. At least to hear about what kind of jerks Beatty and the RayBert guys could be, while also lionising them as class warriors too, which just sounds like such BS to me.

But it's ultimately fairly toothless and descends into "Star Wars came along and ruined it all."

I think Kael wasn't much different from any other conspicuously famous critics, of which there aren't that many. They did have an eye for a good film. And could articulate it quite well. But just as often they could write a load of bullshit about a movie that didn't merit them taking any significant time over, just because it was easy to trash or exalt a movie for the sheer notoriety of it.

[deet]

Originally Posted by Just_Discovered_3D

her screeds against Hollywood fetishizing hyperviolence.

Gonna have to ask for the receipts on this one. She liked The Wild Bunch and Re-Animator, fercrissakes.

[Purplenoon]

Tarantino...Giallo. Sounds delicious.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Martoto

The irony is that any one of us has likely heard more genuinely scandalous stories than are included in that book. In fact, in the TV doc adaptation of the book, Richard Dreyfuss admits to stuff that isn't in it, when describing his reaction to things revealed about him in another book. Namely Julia Phillips autobiog.

Easy Riders, Raging Bulls is a fairly good read. At least to hear about what kind of jerks Beatty and the RayBert guys could be, while also lionising them as class warriors too, which just sounds like such BS to me.

But it's ultimately fairly toothless and descends into "Star Wars came along and ruined it all."

I think Kael wasn't much different from any other conspicuously famous critics, of which there aren't that many. They did have an eye for a good film. And could articulate it quite well. But just as often they could write a load of bullshit about a movie that didn't merit them taking any significant time over, just because it was easy to trash or exalt a movie for the sheer notoriety of it.

Kael was Kael, and like any critic, her reaction to art revealed more about her than she did about the art in review. Which is, of course, the whole point of art. This is where the fun begins. (cough)

[moreorless]

Originally Posted by spanky87

As previously mentioned, knowing Tarantino’s affinity for Pauline Kael immediately makes one think the lead role will be a tribute to and partly inspired by her. But I’m sure it won’t be as simple as it sounds since all of Tarantino’s films have been violent, and the historical aspects highly fictionalized/revisionist.

The simple film-related title also makes me think of “The Stunt Man” which is one of Tarantino’s favourite films and a film that Pauline Kael was enthusiastic about.

One thing that seems disappointing is that this will likely be another nostalgic Hollywood period piece from QT. Something he already did with his last film.

Pauline Kael as a critic/bounty hunter battling the evil/pretentious "left bank" criminal organisation.

[Joeker]

[OutOfBoose]

Kinda sad Tarantino didn't try sci-fi or some space opera type of thing...

[Just_Discovered_3D]

Originally Posted by deet

Gonna have to ask for the receipts on this one. She liked The Wild Bunch and Re-Animator, fercrissakes.

Her wiki mentions a bit it, seems like she liked violence that was subversive or innovative, "artistic" if you will, but not that was just gratuitous.

At the movies, we are gradually being conditioned to accept violence as a sensual pleasure. The directors used to say they were showing us its real face and how ugly it was in order to sensitize us to its horrors. You don't have to be very keen to see that they are now in fact de-sensitizing us. They are saying that everyone is brutal, and the heroes must be as brutal as the villains or they turn into fools.

Weirdly her wiki says she thought the first Dirty Harry film was a right-wing fantasy. I wonder now what she thought about Dirty Harry 2 and 4 as they were of the opposite persuasion.

[kylor]

Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

Kinda sad Tarantino didn't try sci-fi or some space opera type of thing...

Not going to lie an Among Us adaptation in the style of Reservoir Dogs would be amazing. They'd all be astronauts in color coded suits and they've got to find out who the imposter of the mission is.

[mulscul]

Sure would be nice to have a Tarantino movie set in the present day again, I think only Pulp Fiction takes place in the year it was released, I think Jackie Brown takes place in 1995 so that one is almost in present day.

I guess after Death Proof he wants to set his movies in the past

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by mulscul

Sure would be nice to have a Tarantino movie set in the present day again, I think only Pulp Fiction takes place in the year it was released, I think Jackie Brown takes place in 1995 so that one is almost in present day.

I guess after Death Proof he wants to set his movies in the past

Kill Bill too.

Originally Posted by kylor

Not going to lie an Among Us adaptation in the style of Reservoir Dogs would be amazing. They'd all be astronauts in color coded suits and they've got to find out who the imposter of the mission is.

I remember reading something about Tarantino and Star Trek. Since Tarantino likes extensive dialogues and monologues, Star Trek or some other "talkative sci-fi" would've been his approach.

[dancerslegs]

Originally Posted by dkelly26666

There actually is a famous story where Janet Maslyn, who was a critic for the NY Times for many years, claimed that she received a series of creepy late night calls and threatening correspondence from an unidentified man. She fully believes that it was writer/director James Toback, after she gave a bad review to his 1978 film, "Fingers". (I love that film, by the way, LOL). But he is apparently a world class creep, that got MeToo'ed into oblivion a few years ago when women came forward with hundreds of allegations against him. Maslyn believes to this day that he was her stalker, but she could never prove it.

And Pauline Kael was a good friend of Toback's. Just to give this possible plot line a relevant twist.

[dancerslegs]

Originally Posted by Just_Discovered_3D

Weirdly her wiki says she thought the first Dirty Harry film was a right-wing fantasy. I wonder now what she thought about Dirty Harry 2 and 4 as they were of the opposite persuasion.

She (rightly) saw through their hypocrisy.

[tcripe]

I still don't believe this is his last movie. He'll probz take 10 years off and come back.