The Marvels 3D Blu-ray (2023) [Region Free] [Japan only]

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by b_scott

the sky is not falling. calm down.

"Australian YouTube content creator Dave Lee has been actively discussing Disney's plans to halt physical sales. "I'll be very candid about home media in Australia. It's doing terribly," Lee said in a letter posted on his Twitter account*on July 26, 2023. "Almost no one I know in real life buys physical, the physical 'collectors' online are a very, very small bubble ... it's been dire straits out here for a while. This has been a long time coming ... doesn't mean it doesn't suck."

Lee said he could see the news coming in July 24 tweet*after he learned from Australian retailer Sanity that it would no longer carry physical media. Lee also noted in his July 26 letter, "Retailers are constantly having physical 'clearance' sales" and that "Disney is a regular participant in 'clearances.'"

it's purely an Australian issue. Plus OZ is so far away it probably costs a ton to ship to/from there. I know when I order something from OZ it takes like a month to get to me in Chicago.

Lightyear 4K/3D/HD pack on Sanity almost ruined that thing that in Australia almost anyone buy movies.

As I've said in the past.

If people drive combustion cars... when gas is no longer being sold... sellers with combustion cars will feel that people no longer buy from them and if they want to stay in business they'll have to go the way of starting to sell electric cars. This is the same thing with the lack of 3D home media movies that were screened in theatres that way. If no one wants to sell them and want to go digital people won't buy them and go full way to digital stream and piracy (which by the way is cheaper than paying for subscriptions), the loss goes to the studios not to our pockets.

[Mobe1969]

Originally Posted by Jlardonio

Lightyear 4K/3D/HD pack on Sanity almost ruined that thing that in Australia almost anyone buy movies.

They have a 3D version????!!!

[lukas741]

Where?

[the13thman]

Originally Posted by Mobe1969

They have a 3D version????!!!

No, there never was one.

Originally Posted by lukas741

Where?

Nowhere. It was an erroneous listing that was subsequently amended to remove 3D.

[3dblurayofsunshine]

Originally Posted by b_scott

the sky is not falling. calm down.

"Australian YouTube content creator Dave Lee has been actively discussing Disney's plans to halt physical sales. "I'll be very candid about home media in Australia. It's doing terribly," Lee said in a letter posted on his Twitter account*on July 26, 2023. "Almost no one I know in real life buys physical, the physical 'collectors' online are a very, very small bubble ... it's been dire straits out here for a while. This has been a long time coming ... doesn't mean it doesn't suck."

Lee said he could see the news coming in July 24 tweet*after he learned from Australian retailer Sanity that it would no longer carry physical media. Lee also noted in his July 26 letter, "Retailers are constantly having physical 'clearance' sales" and that "Disney is a regular participant in 'clearances.'"

it's purely an Australian issue. Plus OZ is so far away it probably costs a ton to ship to/from there. I know when I order something from OZ it takes like a month to get to me in Chicago.

How does the thing you quoted back up your sentiment that it means nothing for other countries? You could literally say the exact same thing about physical media in any country. I don’t know anyone that buys physical here in America, retailers frequently have clearance sales, Disney is a big participant in those with their 4Ks often going down to $8 on sale. And assuming there aren’t disc pressing plants in Australia, shipping costs have not stopped literally any other industry from selling their wares there.

I don’t think it’s fair to tell people to calm down when your assertions for why this is an isolated issue are gibberish. Besides, it’s not isolated, physical media has recently been killed off in India and a few European territories. The writing is on the wall. This will happen everywhere eventually. As many people in the 4K forum understand, 4K Blu-ray will be the last physical media format for movies.

[bradipolpo]

Originally Posted by 3dblurayofsunshine

physical media has recently been killed off in India and a few European territories

I knew about India (and South America), but didn't know about Europe: where?

[3dblurayofsunshine]

Originally Posted by bradipolpo

I knew about India (and South America), but didn't know about Europe: where?

I can’t remember precisely, but have read comments from people in that area that physical media is all but gone there. South America too as you said. This isn’t some isolated thing. It’s a clear pattern and sign of the future, and the writing has been on the wall long before this news from Australia.

[lukas741]

Yeah...but, can AVATAR 2 save the day with the amount of 3D units sold?

[the13thman]

Originally Posted by lukas741

Yeah...but, can AVATAR 2 save the day with the amount of 3D units sold?

No.

[BLMN]

Originally Posted by lukas741

Yeah...but, can AVATAR 2 save the day with the amount of 3D units sold?

The other movies (the only exception would be marvel) don't have the same weight Avatar has to move 3D units, simple as that.

[3dblurayofsunshine]

Originally Posted by bradipolpo

I knew about India (and South America), but didn't know about Europe: where?

Sorry, and to be slightly more precise (because I mistakenly thought I had already said this) we’re talking Eastern Europe. Not sure if the exact territories but have read reports that physical media has basically ceased in some countries in that area.

[b_scott]

Originally Posted by 3dblurayofsunshine

How does the thing you quoted back up your sentiment that it means nothing for other countries? You could literally say the exact same thing about physical media in any country. I don’t know anyone that buys physical here in America, retailers frequently have clearance sales, Disney is a big participant in those with their 4Ks often going down to $8 on sale. And assuming there aren’t disc pressing plants in Australia, shipping costs have not stopped literally any other industry from selling their wares there.

I don’t think it’s fair to tell people to calm down when your assertions for why this is an isolated issue are gibberish. Besides, it’s not isolated, physical media has recently been killed off in India and a few European territories. The writing is on the wall. This will happen everywhere eventually. As many people in the 4K forum understand, 4K Blu-ray will be the last physical media format for movies.

Disney has very recently said they're fully backing discs and Prey is even getting a disc release, which was a Hulu only streaming exclusive from a couple years back. Australia doesn't portend anything but Australia.

as for 4K being the last media on a plastic disc, yeah I fully agree and I don't care. By the time 8K content is normal, we're talking 10 years. Digital distribution of 100GB files will be nothing at that point, and bits are bits. I don't care what they care on.

this is from March.

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/says-c...-disney-focus/

[lateralspin]

Originally Posted by 3dblurayofsunshine

Sorry, and to be slightly more precise (because I mistakenly thought I had already said this) we’re talking Eastern Europe. Not sure if the exact territories but have read reports that physical media has basically ceased in some countries in that area.

The Germans have MediaMarkt, a big chain of stores, and their name is based on the words for physical media, so I cannot fathom of the physical media market drying up completely.

[the13thman]

There are quite a few threads dedicated to the debate about the future of physical media so after 18 posts in a row on the subject here it would be a good idea to use one of those instead of taking this thread any further off-topic.

Seems like nobody is actually excited for The Marvels, except the usual suspects...

[3dblurayofsunshine]

The first movie is a very enjoyable, top 10 or 15 MCU movie with some of the very best 3D in the MCU so yeah I’m excited for it. I’m hoping the 3D is strong and the movie itself is at least passable. More importantly I really hope they’ve taken note of the fact most of their audience doesn’t care about Marvel TV shows and won’t watch them (and I believe Feige publicly stated they made a mistake making so many shows) and they make it so the movie gives you context for anything from the shows and also avoids leaning into them anyway.

So yeah, it has the potential to be good, with good 3D, and get an actual 3D Blu-ray, which you can’t say about many movies these days.

[b_scott]

Originally Posted by 3dblurayofsunshine

the fact most of their audience doesn’t care about Marvel TV shows and won’t watch them

lol, what? Why would Disney+ Marvel fans not watch free shows based on their properties? That's a silly statement.

[levcore]

I watched and own all the MCU movies, definitely a fan of those but I don't bother with the shows.

[b_scott]

Originally Posted by levcore

I watched and own all the MCU movies, definitely a fan of those but I don't bother with the shows.

.......and you have Disney+ too? that's an important part of my statement.

Many of the shows are important to the films. You can't know why Scarlet Witch is freaking out in Dr. Strange 2 without having watched Wandavision or at least read a recap. For instance. And LOKI is and will be very important to the movies.

[levcore]

Yeah i have Disney+, I'm just not bothered about the shows. I don't really watch any shows tbh, let alone the MCU ones.

[3dblurayofsunshine]

Originally Posted by b_scott

.......and you have Disney+ too? that's an important part of my statement.

Many of the shows are important to the films. You can't know why Scarlet Witch is freaking out in Dr. Strange 2 without having watched Wandavision or at least read a recap. For instance. And LOKI is and will be very important to the movies.

You are clearly in the same camp as Kevin Feige was where you think because people are happy to watch 1-2 regular length interrelated movies a year, you’d suddenly be interested in watching 2-4 TV shows of varying quality a year, increasing your commitment from about 5 hours to about 25 hours a year. I have all the MCU movies, have watched them multiple times and look forward to new ones and I have never bothered with a single show. And yeah, like probably the majority of the people on this planet I have Disney+. It just doesn’t mean I want to add +500% watch time commitment to my MCU watching.

Doctor Strange 2 was basically fine to watch because you can follow that movie just fine with the context ‘Wanda has gone nuts’. Since then I haven’t even felt like I was lacking any context from the shows. But if that changes, it has a very real chance of killing off my interest in the MCU. Superhero fatigue is already a real concern for these studios, and increasing the investment people need to make to stay up to date with the story is only going to make that worse. It’s why Bob Iger admitted in July that they had diluted the audience attention by making too many Marvel shows. They know that they got greedy and made too much, because the viewing figures showed them that their regular movie audience mostly didn’t bother with the shows, especially once they were coming out every few months.