Bill Hunt strikes back: American Gangster

[ryoohki]

Originally Posted by lgans316

What's the big deal my friend ? We should be concerned with what BD supporting studios are offering with respect to extras ? Don't make a mock of HD DVD supporting studios for silly reasons. Blame Fox for continuously getting rid off extras, frequently bumping titles and not offering the unrated version of Die Hard 4.

Con Air,Crimson Tide - No extended CUT
Kung Fu Hustle, Casino Royale - PG-13
Black Hawk Down - No extended CUT
Die Hard 4 - PG-13
M & C, ID4, IRobot , Ice Age, Ronin, Predator, Commando - continuously got bumped
Predator, Commando, Ronin - MPEG-2 BD-25
Man on Fire - Zero Extras - BOO.

Think twice before posting. Let's be more concerned about Blu-ray and BDA in blu-ray forum.

Seriously.. i ABSOLUTELY don't care about 480i extra ... i just don't..

Bumped title and BD25 have no reason for being there.

Were not talking about 1 sec of extra footage or extended angle.. we are talking about a whole 22 minutes and NO HD AUDIO on a NEW RELEASE

[lgans316]

American Gangster is a HD DVD title and why should people in this FORUM care about it ?

[miokti]

Originally Posted by lgans316

American Gangster is a HD DVD title and why should people in this FORUM care about it ?

we're just gloating that we won... bragging rights to the fullest...

[LeoneFan]

Originally Posted by lgans316

American Gangster is a HD DVD title and why should people in this FORUM care about it ?

We don't care American Gangster, but we do like to make fun of a so-called next gen video format that can't deliver both high end video AND audio on the same disc.

[Blu-Beard]

Originally Posted by LeoneFan

We don't care American Gangster, but we do like to make fun of a so-called next gen video format that can't deliver both high end video AND audio on the same disc.

They could come out with dual disc players that would run in sync. Audio on one and video on the other

[JohnAlden]

Are you guyes are dumb or what! Did you even read it correctly what he had too say. It has nothing to do with Fox.

[Blu Titan]

B. Hunt once again....HD DVD .The limitations of the HD DVD format have been well documented, so this is not surprising. It gets old to hear the HD DVD debate, as that format should just disappear.

[Joon]

Trust me, HD DVD will be lucky if this movie makes the top 7 when it is released, and I mean LUCKY.

[L or S of Perfect?]

who cares. the hd guys are probably all holding hands chanting

"it's good enough"
"it's good enough"
"it's good enough"
"it's good enough"
"it's good enough"
"it's good enough"

[spam.curitiba]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Blame Fox for continuously getting rid off extras, frequently bumping titles and not offering the unrated version of Die Hard 4.

You are kidding right? Who gives a shit about the unrated version. People that have compared the two say there is just a couple more curse words in the unrated one.....IS this really a big issue to put your panties in a bundle? Seriously......

[blackhawktraffic]

Yeah what a great post by Bill Hunt

[workshed108]

Originally Posted by spam.curitiba

You are kidding right? Who gives a shit about the unrated version. People that have compared the two say there is just a couple more curse words in the unrated one.....IS this really a big issue to put your panties in a bundle? Seriously......

Yeah it is. They released the unrated cut on DVD but not Blu-ray, that is complete crap. I want the unrated version of EVERY film I buy if it's available.

[dgator783]

Originally Posted by lgans316

What's the big deal my friend ? We should be concerned with what BD supporting studios are offering with respect to extras ? Don't make a mock of HD DVD supporting studios for silly reasons. Blame Fox for continuously getting rid off extras, frequently bumping titles and not offering the unrated version of Die Hard 4.

Con Air,Crimson Tide - No extended CUT
Kung Fu Hustle, Casino Royale - PG-13
Black Hawk Down - No extended CUT
Die Hard 4 - PG-13
M & C, ID4, IRobot , Ice Age, Ronin, Predator, Commando - continuously got bumped
Predator, Commando, Ronin - MPEG-2 BD-25
Man on Fire - Zero Extras - BOO.

Think twice before posting. Let's be more concerned about Blu-ray and BDA in blu-ray forum.

My Kung Fu Hustle is rated R....man, ur copy sucks...lol

[owa]

The thread definitely got side-tracked but at least it's very telling.

As for the article and movie, I was really surprised to see that it has PQ-issues and doesn't include lossless audio. Especially when HD DVD is in dire need of some positive news (i.e. so it is a big deal). Not sure what they were thinking on that one and I'm sure the HD DVD fans can't be too happy about it.

As for some of the other topics in this thread, it's pretty simple for me. PQ/AQ are the top priority. Anything else is just an added bonus and is unnecessary. Like someone else already said, I buy a movie for the movie. If I do check out the extras, imo, they should be in hi-def. You can search the forums and find people new to hi-def asking why the extras are frequently in SD or thinking something is wrong because they're in SD. Just on that alone, I think they should try to include hi-def extras if at all possible. IMO, makes more sense that way and would make it more worthwhile.

But, 18 hours of SD content? I guess that was supposed to be a good thing but as I was trying to picture watching 18 hours of SD content (even split over a few days) I couldn't help but think of how many hi-def movies I could watch during that same timespan. Sorry, just can't relate to that one.

As far as rated/unrated, frequently I don't think the unrated version is any better and sometimes I think it's worse. Occasionaly, I don't even notice what's different. So, if they're releasing the unrated version, I'd prefer that they include the rated version as well or at least make it available for purchase. Ideally, it would be great if they could use seamless branching and include both on the disc.

Originally Posted by workshed108

Yes, it is a big deal that FOX studios are still releasing titles using MPEG2!

Sorry, can't agree. I think I may have posted this recently but oh well. Kingdom of Heaven (one of the first Fox titles), A Few Good Men and Pathfinder are good examples of highly rated movies PQ-wise and they're using MPEG-2.

Quote by RBFilms...

Originally Posted by RBFilms

Let's put it this way. A lot of this depends on the CODEC being used and the technician using it.

I can say this for sure, MPEG-2 just keep looking better and better as you feed it more bandwidth to use.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...6&postcount=96

[WickyWoo]

There's plenty of reference MPEG-2 titles like Black Hawk Down, KOH etc

Predator is only 107 minutes for example, which fits comfortably on a BD-25 with 25 or so mbps CBR with lossless audio. Given that only about 10-15min of that 107 is actually action, it should fit very nicely even after cranking the bitrate for those scenes.

[johnno1986]

Originally Posted by B-movies

I love that Bill said that. Universal should know better. They should be releasing on Blu-ray Disc.

[kknight]

This is exactly why HD-DVD is inferior due to the lack of space!! With 20gb of extra space, Universal could really use it.

[miokti]

BH is just rubbing it into HD-DVD's face. Red ants have always stood by their mantra that you don't really need the extra space. Sure you don't need the space if you'd rather have ultra-compressed audio and you have to add an extra SD DVD to get both versions of the movie. BH is just showing Uni what could have been...

[Sonny]

Its a good movie that the 'RED' side f**ked up because there inferior