Flow 4K UHD (Curzon)

[rezpekt]

Originally Posted by emailking

Do you think the US version will have at least all those extras though?

On-disc extras, yes, don't see a reason why Criterion would drop any of them. Their release was initially planned as part of the Janus Contemporaries line-up, but was upgraded to the Collection proper during the awards season. I would expect that the long delay/wait is at least partly due to them working on new and unique special features.

[88mph]

Two of those recently announced extras are on YouTube. The Blender conference has the guy umming and erring throughout and the BTS is Latvian with an English voiceover. Still I think they could be interesting (didn’t want to watch too much).

But it would be great if Criterion could produce a nice in-house documentary.

[Dubstar]

Maybe it was a rumor but I thought I read somewhere the Criterion edition would include a directors commentary track - time will tell

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I don't see Criterion beating that. That's a beautiful looking set, and a very nice set of extras as well. The only added incentive I could see Criterion providing is a commentary track with the director.

They did that, and way more. Curzon still has the nicest looking set, but Criterion absolutely wins in terms of extras with the commentary track, new interviews, and including a whole other film with Away (2019)

Flow 4K UHD

https://www.criterion.com/films/34685-flow

DIRECTOR-APPROVED 4K UHD + BLU-RAY SPECIAL EDITION FEATURES

• 4K digital transfer, with 7.1 surround DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack, approved by director Gints Zilbalodis
• 4K digital master of Away (2019), Zilbalodis’s debut feature
• One 4K UHD disc of Flow and Away and two Blu-rays with Flow, Away, and the special features
• New audio commentary featuring Zilbalodis
• Full feature-length animatic
• New interviews with Zilbalodis and cowriter-coproducer Matīss Kaža
• Dream Cat (2025), a making-of documentary produced for Latvian Television
• Aqua (2012) and Priorities (2014), short films by Zilbalodis with new commentaries by the director
• Unused-shot reel, with new commentary by Zilbalodis
• Trailers, TV spots, and proof-of-concept teasers
• English subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing and English descriptive audio
• PLUS: An essay by critic Nicolas Rapold and collectible stickers

Cover image by Gints Zilbalodis. Flow logo by Paula Bobrova and Pēteris Tenisons.

[PNguyen]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

They did that, and way more. Curzon still has the nicest looking set, but Criterion absolutely wins in terms of extras with the commentary track, new interviews, and including a whole other film with Away (2019)

Flow 4K UHD

https://www.criterion.com/films/34685-flow

Wow yeah that's great they are offering 2 movies basically, Away doesn't look like anything special so I'm not sure if I should double dip.

[EinCB128]

So what version of Flow is everyone getting? Deciding between Criterion and the Italian version, personally.

Thank you!

[maverick22]

I went with the Curzon when it went up at Atomic, what, a couple of months ago. I didn’t have any idea when Criterion would release it. Hopefully I made an okay decision.

Are Curzon titles usually English friendly (disc menus, subtitles, etc)? I like the fact that it has HDR, although I’ll leave it up the more knowledgeable here to see if that’s a huge deal with this particular film.

[aladdin123]

Originally Posted by maverick22

I went with the Curzon when it went up at Atomic, what, a couple of months ago. I didn’t have any idea when Criterion would release it. Hopefully I made an okay decision.

Are Curzon titles usually English friendly (disc menus, subtitles, etc)? I like the fact that it has HDR, although I’ll leave it up the more knowledgeable here to see if that’s a huge deal with this particular film.

Only the italian UHD has HDR.

[maverick22]

Originally Posted by aladdin123

Only the italian UHD has HDR.

Wait, is Curzon not the Italian version people are referring to?

How many versions will there be?

Criterion
Curzon
Italian?

I might need to change my Atomic order if possible if the Curzon isn’t the Italian one!

[gigan72]

Originally Posted by maverick22

Wait, is Curzon not the Italian version people are referring to?

How many versions will there be?

Criterion
Curzon
Italian?

I might need to change my Atomic order if possible if the Curzon isn’t the Italian one!

Curzon is a UK label

This is the Italian

[maverick22]

Originally Posted by gigan72

Curzon is a UK label

Crap - thanks for the info!

Well, is the Curzon the worst of the releases?

Criterion seems to have the most extras + another short film.
The Italian has HDR.

[ghostsofjoy]

Originally Posted by maverick22

Crap - thanks for the info!

Well, is the Curzon the worst of the releases?

Criterion seems to have the most extras + another short film.
The Italian has HDR.

Curzon has the most deluxe physical packaging.

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by maverick22

Crap - thanks for the info!

Well, is the Curzon the worst of the releases?

Criterion seems to have the most extras + another short film.
The Italian has HDR.

Curzon is released a whole season before the Criterion and has Blender Conference and Masterclass and Q&A with Gints Zilbalodis and a booklet not present on the Criterion.

However the conference can be found online

YouTube

[aladdin123]

Originally Posted by ghostsofjoy

Curzon has the most deluxe physical packaging.

Also encoding by VDMS.

[stigdu]

I pre-ordered the UK Curzon edition a couple of months ago and am happily sticking with it. I always support the UK companies where I can (unless I read that it's a totally messed up release, which is unlikely, but in which case I'll re-consider).

[cascade 15]

I would always prefer Curzon 4K, Studio Canal 4K, and BFI 4K over Criterion 4K, even though they cost more and have region B BR's.

[emailking]

The other one had a ton of specials though and a 2nd movie. So I'm sticking with that I guess.

[MovieBuff647]

Got mine in earlier and three things:

1) Booklet does indeed confirm the encoding for both discs was done by VDMS.

2) Also includes a Stereo LPCM 2.0 audio track, in additional to the original DTS-HD MA 7.1 track.

3) As expected based on Curzon's LE 4K release of PARIS, TEXAS, very handsomely produced set!

Originally Posted by maverick22

Crap - thanks for the info!

Well, is the Curzon the worst of the releases?

Criterion seems to have the most extras + another short film.
The Italian has HDR.

No, you made the right call. The VDMS encode alone puts it above at least the Criterion. You can always hunt down the audio commentary down the line and AWAY, which is the director's first feature and very good BTW, is still on Prime. I do not trust either of Criterion's two most prominent encoders (likely NexSpec in this case) to get both films onto 4K and Blu-Ray discs without there being any sort of encoding issues.

As for the Italian 4K being HDR, if it is not a limited release, I imagine prices will drop over time, so you can always track that down later. The Curzon, however, is a Limited Edition.

[maverick22]

Originally Posted by MovieBuff647

Got mine in earlier and three things:

1) Booklet does indeed confirm the encoding for both discs was done by VDMS.

2) Also includes a Stereo LPCM 2.0 audio track, in additional to the original DTS-HD MA 7.1 track.

3) As expected based on Curzon's LE 4K release of PARIS, TEXAS, very handsomely produced set!



No, you made the right call. The VDMS encode alone puts it above at least the Criterion. You can always hunt down the audio commentary down the line and AWAY, which is the director's first feature and very good BTW, is still on Prime. I do not trust either of Criterion's two most prominent encoders (likely NexSpec in this case) to get both films onto 4K and Blu-Ray discs without there being any sort of encoding issues.

As for the Italian 4K being HDR, if it is not a limited release, I imagine prices will drop over time, so you can always track that down later. The Curzon, however, is a Limited Edition.

Thanks for the additional info - feel better about my decision.

I actually received mine yesterday. The packaging is beautiful - lovely set! Just wish it had HDR. I assume it will still look wonderful! Haven’t popped it in yet to confirm. So many other discs I’m behind on

[MovieBuff647]

Originally Posted by maverick22

Thanks for the additional info - feel better about my decision.

I actually received mine yesterday. The packaging is beautiful - lovely set! Just wish it had HDR. I assume it will still look wonderful! Haven’t popped it in yet to confirm. So many other discs I’m behind on

The director's preference is SDR. The Italian distributor just did their own HDR grade and got Zilbalodis' approval. Doesn't mean it was intended to be seen that way.