True-HD with BDP-S301 and Onkyo 605

[mombo]

Yes, Sony is set to 5.1. Onkyo displays PCM, HDMI, Direct. True-HD Spiderman 3

[JasonR]

What movie?

[mombo]

Spiderman 3 True-HD

[JasonR]

Does it do it on PCM as well? Have you tried moving your surrounds to the other surround speaker plugs to see if you get output?

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by paidgeek

I finally took some time this evening to reconfirm what is going on with the 300.

A couple of points to know first:

I checked this with firmware 3.7, but it applies to several earlier releases going back to when the feature first appeared on the S1.

It is not an advertised feature of the S300, It could be removed at any time in a future firmware release.

DO NOT call Sony customer service and hassle them about why this does not show up in the information display or in the manual. As mentioned before, this is an unadvertised feature. Consider it a gift.

The only setting that matters is the HDMI audio setting. It MUST be set to LPCM, or Dolby THD will only come out of the HDMI connection as DD. The downmix setting does not matter.

Dolby THD will only be decoded and passed as LPCM on the HDMI connector. If you want to confirm if you are really getting THD versus DD, try the following: Connect your receiver analog inputs to the analog outputs of the S300, set the HDMI audio output to LPCM and connect the HDMI output to your receiver as well, playback a THD audio stream and use your receiver to toggle between the analog input or the HDMI input, better yet, have someone else do the switching for you. If these do not sound the same to you, you have learned something. Now try the same thing with a normal DD stream and see if you hear the same difference, if not....

For those of you who will continue to question this until the sun burns out, someone makes a test disc to confirm it, or someone dedicated does an invert/add of the analog out vs. the HDMI THD out, keep in mind that I don't do this for a hobby and I don't have anything to gain by misleading you.

Ask questions to Sony Pictures Entertainment insider "paidgeek"

[mombo]

Yes, It does it as well on onkyo set to PCM. Do you mean changing the surround left and right to the surround BACK left and right?

[JasonR]

I meant PCM soundtracks, and yes I mean changing it to back...

[crackinhedz]

So... Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong? Why I can't I get any sound to the rear channels?

If you are listening to a 5.1 audio track...there will be NO sound coming from rear speakers...you need either a movie with a 7.1 audio track, or an Onkyo 705 (and higher) that can matrix the 5.1 into 7.1.

But no rear sound because not a 7.1 track.

[JasonR]

I don't own an Onkyo, just troubleshooting...

[crackinhedz]

the onkyo can matrix a bitstream standard 5.1 dolby digital and Dts signal into 7.1

But not a PCM signal. need 705 or higher.

[JasonR]

I believe he is using 5.1 and just trying to get sound out of the surrounds...Right?

[mombo]

Yes. Only 5.1 system. I get sound to the surrounds on all the other 5.1 settings such as Dolby Digital, Neo6, PLll and so on.

[JasonR]

Have you tried any PCM soundtracks?

[JasonR]

I am thinking you have them plugged into the wrong surround inputs and it is matrixing on standard DD & DTS tracks, thus giving you sound.

[Tyler2106]

So you guys think you can get TruHD with this player???

[JasonR]

I would say it is a fact.

[JasonR]

Crackin,

Did you see this post?



https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=684

[Flea77]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

the onkyo can matrix a bitstream standard 5.1 dolby digital and Dts signal into 7.1

But not a PCM signal. need 705 or higher.

Question for you, in your sig you have a link to "Understanding HDMI cables and why cheap ones work perfectly", did you write that? I was just curious because if you did, I have some interesting questions for you about it.

Allan

[Tyler2106]

Originally Posted by JasonR

Crackin,

Did you see this post?



https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=684

On that page it says it will do dtsHD if you think that means it will do truHD but if you look on page 47 it says that ALL audio signals hooked up via HDMI are converted into LPCM...so if Spiderman 3 is in TruHD it will change to LPCM...THAT MEANS NO TRUHD...only LPCM!!!!!!!!! Like I have been trying to say this player doesn't play TruHD!!!
here is the link to the owners manual...http://www.sonystyle.com/wcsstore/So...df/BDPS300.pdf

[krazeyeyez]

Originally Posted by Tyler2106

On that page it says it will do dtsHD if you think that means it will do truHD but if you look on page 47 it says that ALL audio signals hooked up via HDMI are converted into LPCM...so if Spiderman 3 is in TruHD it will change to LPCM...THAT MEANS NO TRUHD...only LPCM!!!!!!!!! Like I have been trying to say this player doesn't play TruHD!!!
here is the link to the owners manual...http://www.sonystyle.com/wcsstore/So...df/BDPS300.pdf

from my understanding truehd is a "zipfile" for lpcm! so the same thing. only one is uncompressed and one is a lossless compression, same end result.