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Old 05-01-2008, 01:50 AM   #1
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Old 05-01-2008, 01:51 AM   #2
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:45 AM   #3
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"The first wave of Universal Blu-ray Disc titles on July 22 are all from the Mummy franchise and were all previously released on HD DVD: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns and The Scorpion King. All of these titles were published with Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 audio tracks, but not Dolby TrueHD tracks.

Per Universal, all three Mummy films will include DTS-HD Master Lossless Audio. That's right, folks. Instead of lazily porting over what was already completed for HD DVD, Universal has heard your cries for lossless audio and is taking action.

Universal went on to tell us that the game plan moving forward is for DTS-HD Master Lossless to become the Blu-ray standard at the studio. Obviously there will be exceptions, but it looks like the majority of titles, and probably all new theatrical titles, will include DTS-HD."

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This is great news. I hope the DTS bombs will not be included.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:50 AM   #4
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This is great news. I hope the DTS bombs will not be included.
I don't think it's the discs that were the issue per se. It was certain receivers, but that's being corrected with firmware updates.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:54 AM   #5
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I don't think it's the discs that were the issue per se. It was certain receivers, but that's being corrected with firmware updates.
The DTS bombs are encoded on the disks but Onkyo, Pioneer and one other brand used a certain type of DTS chip that does not sit well with the dts encode.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:58 AM   #6
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The DTS bombs are encoded on the disks but Onkyo, Pioneer and one other brand used a certain type of DTS chip that does not sit well with the dts encode.
Are you sure it's Pioneer? Because I never experienced it on my VSX-91TXH(yet). I thought it was Onkyo, Integra, and Denon.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:53 AM   #7
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This is great news. I hope the DTS bombs will not be included.
The discs themselves were never the problem. Certain receivers had poorly implemented ICs for their DTS-HD MA decoding. It has been fixed already if you update the receiver.
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:54 AM   #8
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"The first wave of Universal Blu-ray Disc titles on July 22 are all from the Mummy franchise and were all previously released on HD DVD: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns and The Scorpion King. All of these titles were published with Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 audio tracks, but not Dolby TrueHD tracks.

Per Universal, all three Mummy films will include DTS-HD Master Lossless Audio. That's right, folks. Instead of lazily porting over what was already completed for HD DVD, Universal has heard your cries for lossless audio and is taking action.

Universal went on to tell us that the game plan moving forward is for DTS-HD Master Lossless to become the Blu-ray standard at the studio. Obviously there will be exceptions, but it looks like the majority of titles, and probably all new theatrical titles, will include DTS-HD."

Source: dvd.themanroom.com
HELL YEAH!!!!!!
Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about, baby!!!
I can see it and HEAR it already.......Jurassic Park BDs in DTS HD Master Audio! The way they were MEANT to be heard!!!!

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Jurassic Park in DTS: Dinosaurs haven't sounded this good in 65 million years!
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:03 AM   #9
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Great move by Universal. We need lossless sound in every BD.
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:45 AM   #10
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Universal you are giving worm fuzzy feeling inside with the DTS-HD Master Lossless Audio....
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:13 AM   #11
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In the waning months of Universal Studios Home Entertainment's HD DVD era, the studio had standardized the use of Dolby TrueHD audio on almost all newly announced titles. This was in stark contrast to the early Universal HD DVD days when the appearance of Dolby TrueHD was overshadowed by the heavy use of Dolby Digital Plus lossy audio.

Times has certainly changed, and now Universal is gearing up to enter the Blu-ray Disc arena for the first time on July 22. With this move from HD DVD to Blu-ray support comes many questions, including how Universal will approach audio with the expanded room a BD-50 disc offers over a 30GB dual-layered HD DVD disc.

Although Universal is remaining tight-lipped on a lot of details surrounding their Blu-ray presence that wasn't included in the press release, they were kind enough to entertain our questions about their audio approach on Blu-ray. The simple answer may surprise you. At the least, it should delight you.

The first wave of Universal Blu-ray Disc titles on July 22 are all from the Mummy franchise and were all previously released on HD DVD: The Mummy, The Mummy Returns and The Scorpion King. All of these titles were published with Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 audio tracks, but not Dolby TrueHD tracks.

Per Universal, all three Mummy films will include DTS-HD Master Lossless Audio. That's right, folks. Instead of lazily porting over what was already completed for HD DVD, Universal has heard your cries for lossless audio and is taking action.

Universal went on to tell us that the game plan moving forward is for DTS-HD Master Lossless to become the Blu-ray standard at the studio. Obviously there will be exceptions, but it looks like the majority of titles, and probably all new theatrical titles, will include DTS-HD.

We'll have more from Universal, including their position on U-Control appearing on Blu-ray, in the near future. Stay tuned!
Excellent news, can't wait to hear the Bourne series in DTS-HD!

Also, hats off to Universal for not being lazy and porting over their HD DVD releases, they're giving Blu-ray full treatment!
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:19 AM   #12
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please search before posting....

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lol even new members are starting to say "use the search function"hahaha
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He's been around longer than you.
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Sorry, didn't realized it had been posted under a different section of the site. My bad.
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http://dvd.themanroom.com/news/Exclu...dio_Plans/2651

Excellent news, can't wait to hear the Bourne series in DTS-HD!

Also, hats off to Universal for not being lazy and porting over their HD DVD releases, they're giving Blu-ray full treatment!
Let us not forget that other than the titles by Paramount that were already authored, they're giving us BD optomized picture and sound. Universal (last I heard) will be giving us a mix of HD DVD optomized picture and BD optomized sound.

At this moment, I prefer DTS-HD MA over Dolby TrueHD and PCM simply because I don't have an HDMI receiver capable of providing me lossless sound, and DTS-HD MA still provides me with a 1.5 mbps soundtrack, but by the time Universal titles start to come out I should have a new receiver, so I'm open either way!

I'm thrilled that Universal will be providing us with "lossless" audio though... bring on "Serenity" now!!

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sanity later......... go dts-ma!!! or truehd if needed.....im happy either way
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The discs themselves were never the problem. Certain receivers had poorly implemented ICs for their DTS-HD MA decoding. It has been fixed already if you update the receiver.
F.Y.I. DTS designed the ICs. The "bombs" are certain sequences in the encodings themselves. It was up to Onkyo and the others to engineer a workaround for their screwup.

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Yeah I know. I'm just trying find why Dolby TrueHD doesn't compare to movies that are in DTS MA or PCM. Oh well, just glad Universal picked DTS MA!!!
Spider-Man 2 perhaps? You're simply comparing sound mixes, or perhaps not decoding it properly.

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I don't like TrueHD nearly as much as DTS HD MA. I've said it a hundred times that Dolby detailing is not nearly as rich or positionally accurate as DTS tracks in all "supposedly equal" forms. DTS HD MA and PCM tracks always fill my room with more sound (NOT MORE VOLUME as many will say) than TrueHD tracks. In my opinion, TrueHD is great for romances, comedies, and documentaries. Action, fantasy, adventure, and every other type of film not mentioned deserves PCM or DTS HD MA to push the experience to its utmost presentation ability.

And before counter arguements ensue, I have been scrutinously listening for the differences from a completely objective viewpoint as I have been reviewing digital media for the last several years. Every disc I play gets a clean slate approach. I'll finish the movie and pop in a couple of comparable genre titles to compare the sound of PCM and TrueHD tracks. Each time, the DTS HD MA has more weight to it.
Ridiculous. You know as well as I do had the soundtracks in question that you prefer been encoded in TrueHD they would have sounded THE SAME. Plus many more people would get to enjoy them. Panasonic BD10 owners, all Sony standalones, PC owners, etc. Not to mention the PS3 from day one.

Besides, I'm betting Cloverfield will knock the socks off of any DTS-MA track out there.

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when I watch a movie in dolby truehd I have to put the volume up to around 19 or 20 to get the same sound I get on dts-hdma at 15. I don't care what anybody says my ears tell me that dts-hdma is the best.
Louder = better? Usually that means that the recording in question has less dynamic range. Something CD engineers have had to deal with in the iPod generation: boosting the lows and lowering the highs to compensate for poor ears & equipment.

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Let us not forget that other than the titles by Paramount that were already authored, they're giving us BD optomized picture and sound. Universal (last I heard) will be giving us a mix of HD DVD optomized picture and BD optomized sound.

At this moment, I prefer DTS-HD MA over Dolby TrueHD and PCM simply because I don't have an HDMI receiver capable of providing me lossless sound, and DTS-HD MA still provides me with a 1.5 mbps soundtrack, but by the time Universal titles start to come out I should have a new receiver, so I'm open either way!
DD @640 > DTS @1536

Not to mention DTS provides no dynamic range control, has encoding & decoding issues and all sorts of other charming issues.

Fanboyism can be a scary thing.

So for the record:

Disney, Sony, Paramount, Warner = TrueHD

Fox, MGM (via Fox), New Line (may change with Warner taking over), Universal = DTS-HD MA

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This is great news. My HDMI Audio AVR is being delivered today, I can't wait to check out DTSMA!

And,.. Since I was never sucker enough to buy HD DUD,... I don't have to double dip on the Universal releases. It's all being done right the first time. Very happy to see they worked the kinks out on the other format. I guess HD DUD wasn't completely worthless.

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