2001: A Space Odyssey useless beginning?

[jj5206]

Originally Posted by horseflesh

Was........

i forgot he died...RIP Stanley Kubrick

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by jj5206

i am 16 and i saw this film first on Universal HD and loved every minute...Stanley Kubrick is a brilliant film maker, and he didn't let me down with 2001. I actually bought the blu for 20 bucks and have watched it multiple times since...I think this is an A+ film

Wait.

Hold the Phone.

A 16 year old in THIS society with more than half a brain?

Not on MY watch!

Here, have some Doritos!

Play some Halo 3 on the 3shitty, quickly man, you're developing the ability to think for yourself!!

While you're at it, pound back some Halo 3 Master Chief endorsed Mountain Dew... that oughta kill those errant brainwaves!

{yes, I am implying that marketing and Microsoft's Xbox 360 have destroied the braincells of WAY too many people}

Logan

[Amel]

watched it few days ago on Universal i think, wasnt impressed, however the monkey scenes were funny as hell

[theNothingComes]

It is threads like this which are posted by what I'm assuming is a younger op that opens my eyes to the fact not all film collectors appreciate the fact that films like 2001 are trying to be kept intact and distributed on blu-ray in it's original theatrical presentation. During the first viewing of my blu-ray of this Kubrik master piece you could not have been able to remove the smile off my face as the Overture began and I sat in my recliner remembering the experience of seeing this film at the Indian Hills Cinema in Omaha, Neb. (back in the day). And that's exactly what is was - an experience!

I can just imagine the outcry (and I would be one of those films buffs screaming the loudest) if you removed the opening title crawl at the beginning of the original Star Wars! In the same way removing the overture from 2001 would be giving you an incomplete experience of what Kubrik intended.

As has been stated in this thread - how many of our young film fans are neglecting such a wonderful rich history of great films because they are filmed in black/white, have no desire to understand the events of the time of the films creation, or in this case inclusion of overtures and or intermission music.

[CptGreedle]

Isn't there already a thread on this?

Can't you just enjoy the music at the opening? Be glad it is there, as it was originally presented.

[SpaceDog]

It's important to replicate the theatrical experience. Having the overture included allows for those of us who are purists to enjoy the experience. Your fast forward button should allow you to have a reasonable film experience also.

[whiskeyred]

It's the overture, the music played with the curtains drawn in most theaters back in the day, God forbid we ever get back to that type of anticipation. Completely theatrical, sets the mood if you are lucky to catch this remastered in an old theater, you will experience the intentions of it.

[Steverhcp02]

i didnt really "love" this movie either. Just because something is a "classic" doesnt mean it must be loved. The movie was unique.

Im surprised with the amount of snobby comments from this forum towards the OP just because 2001 wasnt his cup of tea.

I get it, no life, then life, the progress of technology etc. Some of the effects were important to cinema and the end as far as techs. evolution to near human transcends time.....i guess i can appreciate perhaps what the movie did for future cinema, but the movie was still poorly paced, not as poignant as its subtext...... and i dont need anticipation for the first whatever minutes of a movie, imo, it pointless since i clearly anticipate going to the movie or else i wouldnt be there.....just my opinion.....now go ahead and tell me how young and stupid i am. haha.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by Steverhcp02

Im surprised with the amount of snobby comments from this forum towards the OP just because 2001 wasnt his cup of tea.
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HER

I don't think it's the part about her not enjoying the film, but the fact that she said the beginning should have been cut etc.... That's like me saying that movie about robots shouldn't have been made because it sucked (and that's how I feel about it) if I didn't like it, that's fine, but if I'm going to suggest ways to make it better, I should be prepared to defend myself against those who liked the Director's well.... "Direction" !

EDIT... I see she didn't suggest changing it directly, she just said it was "useless"

[Riff Magnum]

I'm pretty sure the opening piece is by Ligetti. Kubrick used him and Penderecki alot in 2001 and The Shining. Both composers are way ahead of their time (like Kubrick) and if you like modern composers you should definitley check them out. Ligetti died recently but i think Penderecki is still alive.

[bferr1]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

HER

I don't think it's the part about her not enjoying the film, but the fact that she said the beginning should have been cut etc.... That's like me saying that movie about robots shouldn't have been made because it sucked (and that's how I feel about it) if I didn't like it, that's fine, but if I'm going to suggest ways to make it better, I should be prepared to defend myself against those who liked the Director's well.... "Direction" !

EDIT... I see she didn't suggest changing it directly, she just said it was "useless"

Again, she was talking about the Overture, the three minutes of music over black screen, and not the movie itself-- in her own words, "where the screen was blank and music was playing." It's been repeated enough times here; I don't know how you keep missing it. You're making it sound like she's talking about the beginning to the actual movie, and she's not; she's talking about the Overture that precedes the movie.

[caliminius]

Originally Posted by Steverhcp02

i didnt really "love" this movie either. Just because something is a "classic" doesnt mean it must be loved. The movie was unique.

Im surprised with the amount of snobby comments from this forum towards the OP just because 2001 wasnt his cup of tea.

I have to agree. At 31 years old, I don't know if I fall into that "younger crowd" that the people in this thread are bashing, but the only thing 2001 did for me was put me to sleep. I don't know if I ever made it through the first hour of the movie still awake.

P.S., I'm not a fan of that "robot movie" either unless you're talking about "I, Robot" which I did enjoy despite it obviously deviating from the source. It was still a pretty nice interpretation of Asimov's work, a lot of which I've read. It was interesting that it used the "0th Law of Robotics" which was one of the last concepts that Asimov introduced into his Robot series.

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Steverhcp02

i didnt really "love" this movie either. Just because something is a "classic" doesnt mean it must be loved. The movie was unique.

Im surprised with the amount of snobby comments from this forum towards the OP just because 2001 wasnt his cup of tea.

I get it, no life, then life, the progress of technology etc. Some of the effects were important to cinema and the end as far as techs. evolution to near human transcends time.....i guess i can appreciate perhaps what the movie did for future cinema, but the movie was still poorly paced, not as poignant as its subtext...... and i dont need anticipation for the first whatever minutes of a movie, imo, it pointless since i clearly anticipate going to the movie or else i wouldnt be there.....just my opinion.....now go ahead and tell me how young and stupid i am. haha.

And just because you don't love it doesn't mean that it isn't "loved". Get over yourself.

[Steverhcp02]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

And just because you don't love it doesn't mean that it isn't "loved". Get over yourself.

im not full of myself. just expressing MY OPINIONS in a way that doesnt insult or bring down others. As you see i simply stated my take on the movie without bashing what other folks get out of it. If you cant handle that then perhaps you shouldnt frequent internet message board open forums.

I never said others cant get different levels of joy out of the experience i simply stated i dont think just because a movie is a classic or transcends time etc. it is a great 2.5 hour experience. Thats all.

EDIT: for goodness sakes i even stated IMO twice to convey a tone that i was speaking humbly. geesh.

[Rabidhunter]

I think it really set that the mood of watching it in the cinema well. I really miss intermissions in movies at the cinema too. Those were the days. I remember watching movies with intermissions and then I watched a movie and they were gone, just like that.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by Rabidhunter

I think it really set that the mood of watching it in the cinema well. I really miss intermissions in movies at the cinema too. Those were the days. I remember watching movies with intermissions and then I watched a movie and they were gone, just like that.

They started making 88 minute long action movies

[Variable]

very little of why this movie was good has to do with when it was made or how impressive the visuals are. it's the most epic film of all time, telling our story from history so long ago as to be unknown into a future that we haven't begun to imagine yet.

I can understand being bored by this film, but to me that means you need to approach it differently or under different circumstances. it deserves your time and full attention and it will reward you for your commitment.

citizen kane can be viewed differently now because, while still excellent, we tell stories differently now, so it feels like an older movie. 2001 just feels like 2001. it was unique when it came out and it's unique now.

I also don't thnk of it as his best. I'd probably give that honor to The Shining although I personally love watching Clockwork. that being said, it's a great and epic film that will be remembered and debated forever for a very good reason.

[FIDDYPOP]

2001 i son e of the greatest movies ever. It is classic and also has much depth to it. Not to mention it was released a year before our lunar landing and is accurate looking. Amazing

[Octavio]

Originally Posted by Mystique

I just got around watching 2001: A Space Odyssey after buying it from Amazon's BOGO a few months or so ago and man that movie is pretty weird. What I felt was so useless was the first three minutes of the film, where the screen was blank and music was playing. What was the intent of that? To waste time? Overall the movie was pretty hard to get into and I never really did.

This kind of posts makes me lose my faith in Humankind

[horseflesh]

Originally Posted by Octavio

This kind of post makes me lose my faith in Humankind

I didn't quite go that far, but I know what you mean.