Breaking News - Blu-Ray cracked

[kuklitis]

[QUOTE=blitz6speed;44843]... Maybe MS went in, since they're part of AACS, and told them to not revoke keys, let the pirating continue so that HD-DVD's name will be in print and online as copyable as to get some movement going. Amir would definitely do something like this. But now that the BD keys have been found, i doubt that will now take place, as im sure Fox will be at the AACS office with a AK47 wanting the keys revoked and changed.
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It would be just tremendous ! I would like to see full stage war when studios are going against MS. Imagine what fun it would bee to watch those monstrs going against each other in public media and all other levels disputing wether to revoke keys or no !

[thunderhawk]

Keys...
Well, it'll be a matter of time I'm afraid till BD rips will be found on the net *-*

The dude got this out of the .m2ts file on Lord of War..

@ 1920x1080. Only with DD+ they appear to have coding problems.

[blublublu]

Originally Posted by blublublu

The keys are flowing now:

<link removed - this forum can't condone or facilitate such activities. Please note HD-DVD has been treated in exactly the same way>

Better delete all links to this site then earlier up in the thread.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by thunderhawk

Keys...
Well, it'll be a matter of time I'm afraid till BD rips will be found on the net *-*

The dude got this out of the .m2ts file on Lord of War..

@ 1920x1080. Only with DD+ they appear to have coding problems.

Yeah, do you get the joke?

muslix64 "cracked" the "encryption" on that file.

Gary

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

It is to me. Same if someone found out the security code to someone's house, published it and pleaded innocent when "someone else" broke in and stole the place blind.

Ah, but that's a personal versus business issue. Doing something that endangers someone else is illegal.

In a way they are doing the studios a BIG favour. It allows all the bugs to be shaken out of the system.

If muslix64 had kept quiet, and been primary a pirate, he could have leaked the movies all over the place indefinitely and the studios would have no idea what security breach they had. And so couldn't have fixed it.

Nothing lights a fire under people more than a crisis. And it's just movies here we're talking about.

Basically, it comes down to whether you believe in "security through obscurity" or not.

Gary

[blublublu]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Ah, but that's a personal versus business issue. Doing something that endangers someone else is illegal.

In a way they are doing the studios a BIG favour. It allows all the bugs to be shaken out of the system.

If muslix64 had kept quiet, and been primary a pirate, he could have leaked the movies all over the place indefinitely and the studios would have no idea what security breach they had. And so couldn't have fixed it.

Nothing lights a fire under people more than a crisis. And it's just movies here we're talking about.

Basically, it comes down to whether you believe in "security through obscurity" or not.
Gary

What's amazing is that the software players vendors have not been more vigilant in preventing exposures from their end. They need to get the muslix64's of the world in house to hack before they release their wares.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by blublublu

What's amazing is that the software players vendors have not been more vigilant in preventing exposures from their end. They need to get the muslix64's of the world in house to hack before they release their wares.

That is what happens after a disaster or two.

I can't say I'm surprised by the stupidity of the WinDVD people. Although, I know I wouldn't have allowed the product out the door. I was talking about key protection in unprotected memory systems two years ago, and I'm just a computer geek. Not an expert in this area.

Idiots tend to run corporations and divisions. The Peter Principle is very much a real phenomenum. Witness: The Osborning announcements by Toshiba and HD DVD Promotions. If I was CEO, I'd fire the lot of them.

Gary

[jorg]

i wounder when the bda going to start using all ther sucurity featurs

[iceman]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

It is to me. Same if someone found out the security code to someone's house, published it and pleaded innocent when "someone else" broke in and stole the place blind.

Good point

[efralope]

I wonder if the releases for February (Fox and Disney have a good lineup) are already replicated and ready for distribution.

This would mean it's too late to change the keys on those probably.

Either way, it's interesting that Fox was willing to release X-Men 3 (probably their most prized release) so soon before checking to see what would happen with the protection technology.

Warner and Fox have probably been the 2 most aggressive in terms of releasing prized movies, I wonder if Universal, Disney, and Sony have been holding back for this very reason (though we've got Pirates coming soon). I bet Disney isn't regretting not doing Cars and Pirates day-and-date right now.

[dialog_gvf]

And I expect none of them are regretting going MPEG-2 on many titles (download size).

In the end, as long as these titles aren't conveniently available (a massive download, even VC-1, isn't convenient), there isn't a big piracy issue. Only those that wouldn't have bought are likely to get it.

But, what I wonder about is whether the in-the-clear titles will be easily commercially pirated for HD DVD, because it is cheap for a small replicator to upgrade a DVD line (remember how that was supposed to be a good thing?)

The BD titles would have to be re-encoded to get under the HD DVD bandwidth, so I expect they will suffer PQ wise, but ironically the market would be bigger for BD exclusives pirated on HD DVD. And people would use the "well the studios aren't offering me anything to buy" argument to justify purchasing those.

Gary

[Alex Pallas]

this is excellent news, drm is farking eval