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Old 06-03-2008, 07:00 PM   #1
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Rogers Cable (the biggest cable company in Canada I believe) is doing metering as well. This kicks in for real this month (they have just been warning up until now).
How do you track your usage so you know if you're getting close to the limit?
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Make a room for me. I don't want to be the only paranoid skitz left on the outside.
Fair enough but hopefully you bring alot of blus with you it will be a long time probably hook everything up on a private generator running off of street fighter dvds... which later can be converted to run off of dvds.
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Ah so the internet is moving towards socialist communism... great.


Capitalism? Economics?

Socialist communism is when everyone pays the same amount. They heaviest users are subsidized by the little users. Socialist communism closer to how it is run now.

It is fine to be against Capitalism or even open market Economics, but it is silly to stick republican talk-show-host catch words to it when you dont like how it works.

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Socialism and communism are entirely different things

Communism is always involving a totalitarian dictatorship, usually masked by a supposed socialist system typically designed in actuality to concentrate wealth and power to the party officials.

Socialism is summed up best as "community ownership", where everyone takes responsibility for the well being of the whole
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Socialism and communism are entirely different things

Communism is always involving a totalitarian dictatorship, usually masked by a supposed socialist system typically designed in actuality to concentrate wealth and power to the party officials.

Socialism is summed up best as "community ownership", where everyone takes responsibility for the well being of the whole
Kind of true. Communism does not exists in the world and has not to the best of my knowledge. Communism by definition is not what Cuba or the USSR or China. It is more often that the totalitarian dictatorship hides behind Communism and is normally just a way to do exactly what you said...

Socialism and Communism are BOTH, as defined, best described as community ownership, and classless states. In fact Communism is the outcome of Socialism. It is only because of the totalitarian governments that either has a negative stigma.

Basically, Capitalism is based around a free market Economy (ie. not govt controlled) while Communism and Socialism are both attempts, that run with only slight variation, to make the Economy run better through government control. (Economic history of the world. My school had it at Econ 441 or something when I had to take it.) It is now generally assumed that free and open Markets work better than regulated Markets. However, an aside: right now there is a backlash against this in the US because of the housing issue. They wrongly assume it is because of a lack of regulation and government.

The fact is, Socialism is common in the United States for public service. Roads, electricity, Emergency rooms, fire, police, military etc. All are built under the socialist blueprint. The largest socialist movement in the US was likely between 1935 and 1947/8 when public projects brought poor rural area's things they would never otherwise have, and brought Social Security et al. In other words, our quality of life is based partly on a non-totalitarian socialist movement...

It is funny that both are negative in Americans minds. It is even funnier that when Americans try to claim that a move away from socialism is a move toward socialism.


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Socialism is if the Govt paid to lay Fiber optic to make Internet faster. Capitalism is if the ISP's "over charge" long enough that they can afford to lay it themselves, or just stick with the best margin they can get with the current system.

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