Why 2-disc editions??

[PS3Player]

Okay, so I just picked up Semi-Pro today on Blu-ray and it is yet another 2-disc edition. The movie is on one disc and the extras on the other. I thought blu-ray was supposed to have superior storage capacity? Why do we need two discs then? Whats the deal????

[w_tanoto]

Originally Posted by PS3Player

Okay, so I just picked up Semi-Pro today on Blu-ray and it is yet another 2-disc edition. The movie is on one disc and the extras on the other. I thought blu-ray was supposed to have superior storage capacity? Why do we need two discs then? Whats the deal????

I don't like it either. but consider this: nearly all the features on 2 Disc DVD is being presented in top AVC codec, and in PCM (possibly). If all of them in DVD-quality, it would fit BD easily - but this is BD quality. From my experience, a movie which is released in 2 DVDs and 1BD lost some extras in BD version. An example is Devil Wears Prada - lost all of featurettes.

[Musashi]

The difference in production price between a 1 disc and 2 disc product is about $2.

The superior storage space means all the more can fit on 2 discs. That way producers can optimize bitrates on the film and still have hi-def extras.

[groovyone]

More room for the main feature audio and video to 'breathe'.

[Bobby Henderson]

Jeez. More of this kind of crap?


Only stupid idiots will insist on having everything forced onto only 1 stinking disc. That really goes against the standard that Blu-ray has set. If everything really needed to be compressed as much as possible so everything would fit nice and tidy on one single disc then HD-DVD might as well have won. Thankfully, more reasonable brains prevailed on that matter.

Multi-disc movies are a reality regardless of the format. Learn to live with them. Forcing everything onto one disc degrades the freaking quality. It's one thing if the amount of extras is pretty low. But for something like the upcoming Transformers Blu-ray, the audio and video quality of the movie would be affected rather badly by forcing everything onto one disc.

[David Mamet]

Only stupid idiots will insist on having everything forced onto only 1 stinking disc.

There was a nicer way to phrase that, but clearly you decided to go the other route.

[broganreynik]

Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

Only stupid idiots will insist on having everything forced onto only 1 stinking disc.

As opposed to the smart ones?

[Mikeblu]

Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

Jeez. More of this kind of crap?



Multi-disc movies are a reality regardless of the format. Learn to live with them. Forcing everything onto one disc degrades the freaking quality. It's one thing if the amount of extras is pretty low. But for something like the upcoming Transformers Blu-ray, the audio and video quality of the movie would be affected rather badly by forcing everything onto one disc.

well no cos on average the film is on a BD50 and the extras on a BD25 so if they make the BD75 for a reasnable enough price then you could have both on one disc without ANY loss in quality

[ThePhantomOak]

Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

If everything really needed to be compressed as much as possible so everything would fit nice and tidy on one single disc then HD-DVD might as well have won.

HD DVD could have had Video on one disk and Audio on the other and had players that played two disks at one time.

[PS3Player]

Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

Jeez. More of this kind of crap?


Only stupid idiots will insist on having everything forced onto only 1 stinking disc. That really goes against the standard that Blu-ray has set. If everything really needed to be compressed as much as possible so everything would fit nice and tidy on one single disc then HD-DVD might as well have won. Thankfully, more reasonable brains prevailed on that matter.

Multi-disc movies are a reality regardless of the format. Learn to live with them. Forcing everything onto one disc degrades the freaking quality. It's one thing if the amount of extras is pretty low. But for something like the upcoming Transformers Blu-ray, the audio and video quality of the movie would be affected rather badly by forcing everything onto one disc.

thanks SO much for your help with my question. guess if i can learn to live with ignorant *holes like you I can certainly learn to live with multi disc editions. By the way, for a film like Semi-Pro, NOTHING would have been lost had both discs been combined in to a single disc. Transformers hasn't been released yet so I can't comment on that. But my initial question centered around my purchase of Semi-Pro. Anyway, thanks again for posting in my thread

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by w_tanoto

I don't like it either. but consider this: nearly all the features on 2 Disc DVD is being presented in top AVC codec, and in PCM (possibly). If all of them in DVD-quality, it would fit BD easily - but this is BD quality. From my experience, a movie which is released in 2 DVDs and 1BD lost some extras in BD version. An example is Devil Wears Prada - lost all of featurettes.

yep what tanoto said because they are starting to do the extras in 720-1080p which will need more space, it would probly fit if everything was standard dvd 480i

Originally Posted by patrick99

With the extremely vocal complaints about lack of extras on the Fox discs that to me give us the best PQ we have seen so far, I would be delighted if every release had the extras on a second disc, rather than cramming everything on a single disc at the expense of the PQ on the actual movie itself.

same I would never want lower quality PQ/SQ just so a movie could be stocked full of extra junk

[richteer]

Originally Posted by PS3Player

Okay, so I just picked up Semi-Pro today on Blu-ray and it is yet another 2-disc edition. The movie is on one disc and the extras on the other. I thought blu-ray was supposed to have superior storage capacity? Why do we need two discs then? Whats the deal????

Simple: Keep the movie on its own disc (maximising the available space and bandwidth) for best picture and sound quality (lossleess audio and high bit-rate video), and put the extras (preferably in HD) on the other disc.

[NJ_RAMS_FAN]

i always wonder why 2 disc special. but its kool to have them..

[blu-ray fan002]

Because there are so many special features that it either wouldn't fit on 1 disc and since they are having to use a second disc it might as well be in high-def, or some people may have requested the special features to be in high-def as well. I actually prefer 2 discs because that means there are more special features. Yes, you are paying a little more but it's only like $2 or $3.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by PS3Player

Okay, so I just picked up Semi-Pro today on Blu-ray and it is yet another 2-disc edition. The movie is on one disc and the extras on the other. I thought blu-ray was supposed to have superior storage capacity? Why do we need two discs then? Whats the deal????

It is a BD-50 and a BD-25, so we're not losing any of the superior storage capacity. They are dedicating all of it to the feature.

But, it is a puzzler why they felt they needed to do this. It's not like they have put a ton of language tracks on the disc. It has English DTS-HD MA and nothing else.

There are about 1' 20" of extras. Maybe NL felt that much (in HD) would start compromising the feature.

Also, it's been said many consumers see better value from multiple discs.

Gary

[PS3Player]

hey dialog thanks for providing an intelligent answer to my initial question. Bobby Henderson clearly wasn't smart enough to answer my post but felt the need to chime in anyway because he likes multi-discs when they just aren't necessary. Anway, thanks.