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Old 01-30-2007, 02:45 PM   #21
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At risk of getting crucified here, I would buy THD if that is the only option. I want movies in HD, period. If Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter or Matrix were available only on THD, then so be it because I'm a fan of the movies first, a fan of the format second. But if there is a BD side and an HD side, I can guarantee you that the BD side is what will get used, mainly because of likely superior sound, and niceties like resume play and time skip on my Panasonic player-- two features that are lacking on the Toshiba HD DVD players.
Same here. If it's available on only Bluray, then I'll buy the only Bluray copy.

If its only in THD, and the price is the same as a BRD, and there isnt any loss of quality from reviewers, I'd get the THD.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:52 PM   #22
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NO!!! I'm an HD addict and I been HD-DVD free for 7 months and plan to stay that way!!
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:58 PM   #23
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At risk of getting crucified here, I would buy THD if that is the only option. I want movies in HD, period. If Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter or Matrix were available only on THD, then so be it because I'm a fan of the movies first, a fan of the format second. But if there is a BD side and an HD side, I can guarantee you that the BD side is what will get used, mainly because of likely superior sound, and niceties like resume play and time skip on my Panasonic player-- two features that are lacking on the Toshiba HD DVD players.

Besides, there's no guarantee that either format will succeed in the long run. If either/both formats should die prematurely, I want a vast library built up.

This is the most likely plan of attack for THD to put the most wanted movies on it so your stuck buying that version only.
They will do this because they know they could not sell these otherwise....which pi**es me off even more.

Even the FUD.com poll had the vast majority saying no to THD discs.
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:02 PM   #24
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Even if there isn't extra cost, we're back to that "prolonging the format war " theme again.
Well, there is that. But, Warner doing day and date for both and reusing HD DVD encodings is all that too.

Honestly, I think this is a move by Warner to get all of us to pay for development of BD/DVD combo technology.

Did anyone point out to Universal that Total HD could have a DVD instead of HD DVD on one side?

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Old 01-30-2007, 03:10 PM   #25
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The THD marketing, assuming these things ever really see the light of day, will almost certainly cater to the idea of "It's this or nothing!!!" and that will be disingenuous and unfortunate.

They'll be going for a quick hit just like this LG dual format player.

I wish nothing but colossal failure for any of the likes of it.

The sad irony and disservice of this is that it will contribute to even MORE customer confusion. "THD"....what is that, another format?

So what do you do? Buy your dual format player for your all in one THD discs?

This stuff's just getting stupid outright.

I don't care if LOTR:EE comes out on THD. Out of principle, I will not help contribute to prolonging this Microsoft charade of a format war while they continue to deliberately splinter the market.

I will not buy THD. I will not buy combos of any kind. I will not buy dual format anything, of any kind. I will not buy anything that even remotely assists MS in prolonging this needless nonsense and attempt for them to try and strong arm their way into the home theater market.

I will import BD's long before I ever buy any of this combo or dual format garbage.

All of this crap is just more fuel for that fire. I'm going to say totally Blu and I can wait the extra time to get it done right.


Here's what's so stupid about the whole thing:

ALL of this nonsense for Universal Studio movies? That's the only reason a lot of people bought HD-DVD or have stuck with it even this long while most of them bought into BD as well.

If things go the way I expect them to and I start seeing Universal blink in BD's direction within the next 6-12 months...all of this nonsense will be for naught anyways.

It's that simple.
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:33 PM   #26
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If these disks mean more of my favorite movies will be in Blu-ray I will buy them. I wish that I could get all my movies on dedicated Blu-ray disks, but something is better then nothing.
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:31 PM   #27
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TotalHD discs are for the US Only. You will be able to import Blu-Ray only versions of warner titles from japan and europe.
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:34 PM   #28
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I wont buy them if I have a choice, but given the fact they were invented to eliminate choice...im an HD junkie, so i'll buy em.
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:38 PM   #29
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Old 01-30-2007, 04:53 PM   #30
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:09 PM   #31
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I wont buy them if I have a choice, but given the fact they were invented to eliminate choice...im an HD junkie, so i'll buy em.
Don't be such a tool... Anyone who buys into this s****e is only asking to delay this lame ass format "war". I am sorry if I offend anyone. But enough is enough.

How can a format such as, HD dvd even still exist with such poor studio support? The only reason I can think of is that it takes so damn long to press these damn BD discs!! I am only assuming that is why Marie A, is being delayed. I just pray to the HD gods that Casino Royale doesn't get delayed. Enough with the damn delays SONY!!!

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Old 01-30-2007, 05:14 PM   #32
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Don't be such a tool... Anyone who buys into this s***e is only asking to delay this lame ass format "war". I am sorry if I offend anyone. But enough is enough.

How can a format such as, HD dvd even still exist with such poor studio support? The only reason I can think of is that it takes so damn long to press these damn BD discs!! I am only assuming that is why Marie A, is being delayed. I just pray to the HD gods that Casino Royale doesn't get delayed. Enough with the damn delays SONY!!!
I agree with you, but the insults are absolutely not necessary.

We are all on the same side here, or so I thought. We're all HD enthusiasts that know what the end result should be.

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Old 01-30-2007, 05:25 PM   #33
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Don't be such a tool... Anyone who buys into this s***e is only asking to delay this lame ass format "war". I am sorry if I offend anyone. But enough is enough.

How can a format such as, HD dvd even still exist with such poor studio support? The only reason I can think of is that it takes so damn long to press these damn BD discs!! I am only assuming that is why Marie A, is being delayed. I just pray to the HD gods that Casino Royale doesn't get delayed. Enough with the damn delays SONY!!!

Can we not have the personal attacks and watch the language please?
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:32 PM   #34
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The THD marketing, assuming these things ever really see the light of day, will almost certainly cater to the idea of "It's this or nothing!!!" and that will be disingenuous and unfortunate.

They'll be going for a quick hit just like this LG dual format player.

I wish nothing but colossal failure for any of the likes of it.

The sad irony and disservice of this is that it will contribute to even MORE customer confusion. "THD"....what is that, another format?

So what do you do? Buy your dual format player for your all in one THD discs?

This stuff's just getting stupid outright.

I don't care if LOTR:EE comes out on THD. Out of principle, I will not help contribute to prolonging this Microsoft charade of a format war while they continue to deliberately splinter the market.

I will not buy THD. I will not buy combos of any kind. I will not buy dual format anything, of any kind. I will not buy anything that even remotely assists MS in prolonging this needless nonsense and attempt for them to try and strong arm their way into the home theater market.

I will import BD's long before I ever buy any of this combo or dual format garbage.

All of this crap is just more fuel for that fire. I'm going to say totally Blu and I can wait the extra time to get it done right.


Here's what's so stupid about the whole thing:

ALL of this nonsense for Universal Studio movies? That's the only reason a lot of people bought HD-DVD or have stuck with it even this long while most of them bought into BD as well.

If things go the way I expect them to and I start seeing Universal blink in BD's direction within the next 6-12 months...all of this nonsense will be for naught anyways.

It's that simple.
All true....plus Warner is doing this 100% for greed...and if we buy these, we will then see Paramount and Universal go the same route....while paying royalties to Warner.

If two or more of these are sucessful....then what happens with Disney/Fox.
Do we pay in the 40's, 50's street prices for them also?

Expect these discs to street in the 40's with retail in the 50's or higher for new releases....which is going to kill the small amount of mass adoption we would have seen in the next year or so.

This B.S. needs to stop now much like Divx was stopped before it ever gained any steam.
Who in the h*ll does Warner think they are...Microsoft?
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:36 PM   #35
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Personally, I don't care if they have 200 formats. As long as I can get the movies I want in the format I have, I'm happy. Besides... wouldn't all these hardcore guys turn around quickly if the BD was losing the war? As for THD discs... if a title I want only comes out that way, I'll buy it. Man, some people are wrapped too tight!
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:44 PM   #36
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All true....plus Warner is doing this 100% for greed...and if we buy these, we will then see Paramount and Universal go the same route....while paying royalties to Warner.

If two or more of these are sucessful....then what happens with Disney/Fox.
Do we pay in the 40's, 50's street prices for them also?

Expect these discs to street in the 40's with retail in the 50's or higher for new releases....which is going to kill the small amount of mass adoption we would have seen in the next year or so.

This B.S. needs to stop now much like Divx was stopped before it ever gained any steam.
Who in the h*ll does Warner think they are...Microsoft?
Heh, definitely an MS aura to the whole thing, that's for sure.




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Personally, I don't care if they have 200 formats.

As long as I can get the movies I want in the format I have, I'm happy.
This is naive, at best.

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Besides... wouldn't all these hardcore guys turn around quickly if the BD was losing the war?
You're obviously late to the party. BD was "losing the war" for a little bit when it stumbled on its own feet out of the gate and was being outsold 2:1 by HD-DVD right up until the PS3 launched...those "hardcore" guys you refer to never wavered.

Why? Because of the facts. What the technology is, what it does, what its prospects are, and who is behind it.

You may want to consider a little more research. Best place to start? Our own homepage: www.blu-ray.com

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As for THD discs... if a title I want only comes out that way, I'll buy it. Man, some people are wrapped too tight!
Could be, but I think some people need to get a better grasp of the facts and the broader ramifications past instant gratification.

They need to step back and consider the "big picture", so to speak.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:52 PM   #37
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Don't be such a tool... Anyone who buys into this s****e is only asking to delay this lame ass format "war". I am sorry if I offend anyone. But enough is enough.

How can a format such as, HD dvd even still exist with such poor studio support? The only reason I can think of is that it takes so damn long to press these damn BD discs!! I am only assuming that is why Marie A, is being delayed. I just pray to the HD gods that Casino Royale doesn't get delayed. Enough with the damn delays SONY!!!
Why would you disrespect someone on this forum for their opinion? one that is shared by you paritally. We are both in agreement that Blu-Ray should succeed and is the format of choice, but unlike many "Tools" I'm in it for me, not for the success of the BDA, or DVD Forum. I wan't HD movies, and I don't really care what color case they are in, so long as they play well and give me all the benefits available now and in the future. Blu-Ray looks to be more future proof than HDDVD (atleast from what i've read) HDDVD seems limited right out of the gate.

as a side note:
Before you jump in someones s-h-1-t around here, make sure you have a few more posts under your belt, you may upset several around here as we are a pretty tight knit group and don't have much tollerance for newbs with under 50 posts comming in acting like know it alls, shot calling, Trolling and disrespecting long time members here.
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Why would you disrespect someone on this forum for their opinion? one that is shared by you paritally. We are both in agreement that Blu-Ray should succeed and is the format of choice, but unlike many "Tools" I'm in it for me, not for the success of the BDA, or DVD Forum. I wan't HD movies, and I don't really care what color case they are in, so long as they play well and give me all the benefits available now and in the future. Blu-Ray looks to be more future proof than HDDVD (atleast from what i've read) HDDVD seems limited right out of the gate.

as a side note:
Before you jump in someones s-h-1-t around here, make sure you have a few more posts under your belt, you may upset several around here as we are a pretty tight knit group and don't have much tollerance for newbs with under 50 posts comming in acting like know it alls, shot calling and disrespecting long time members here.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:56 PM   #39
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I have the ability to resist!

Really I have enough HD discs already for my current watching schedule, so waiting for Warner to stop this crazy thing is ok for me.

Perhaps the thing to do will be to buy as many WB LPCM enabled discs as we can tolerate, and then stop buying when the THDs come out (if they ever do).

A drop off in sales would be something that they could be concerned about
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Personally, I don't care if they have 200 formats. As long as I can get the movies I want in the format I have, I'm happy. Besides... wouldn't all these hardcore guys turn around quickly if the BD was losing the war? As for THD discs... if a title I want only comes out that way, I'll buy it. Man, some people are wrapped too tight!

So you want to contribute to the demise of HD.....because you, and a few others are not going to keep sales afloat.

HD optical is already less than nitchie to begin with....and the masses are not going to buy many movies at current prices....let alone much higher prices.

I am in this for mass adoption as a replacement for sd dvd before the downloads are here.
Its not about which format wins as much as having one format and cheaper software pricing inline with sd dvd....as soon as possible.
Blu is in a much better position to make that happen.....but red(Warner Microsoft Universal) keeps coming up with lame , more expensive ideas to make it less likely for the masses to ever adopt either.

THD is without a doubt... one of those very lame ideas.

Man....some people are just Not thinking any of this through...and only thinking of their selfish wants instead of the mass adoption that is going to be required to even have any long term HD optical support.

Microsoft loves there kind though....and will have plenty of downloads for them when there is no more HD optical because of studio greed.
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