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Old 06-24-2008, 07:44 AM   #21
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Got Time Warner Cable wired with 8/1 line, takes me 2-4 minutes for regular firmware updates and 3-7 minutes for trailers (120MB on average).
I hooked up a wireless router and the firmware took 15 minutes, the trailers about 20. So yes, there is a big difference between wired and wireless.

Also gaming with wireless, is pretty bad, as I have been kicked out of games a LOT!

I wish we would have more competition here though, TWC is the only cable provider in Hawaii. Hence they rule the prices.
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:02 AM   #22
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Wireless will have a huge difference depending on where the router is located. If there are pipes in the way the speed will be lower, and a few other things. If it is in the same room as the receiver, it shouldn't be too far off. If the signal is badly degraded, a repeater might be a good option to help cover blank/bad signal areas.

That said, I'm probably going to end up just running wires throughout my house just for security reasons. I live in an apartment complex, and I've learned just how easy it is to hack into any router.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:03 PM   #23
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Wired is always more dependable than wireless, but any wireless connnection you go for is likely faster than your net connection
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:32 PM   #24
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typical wired connections are 100 mbps last time I checked that was faster than 54 mbps. Even if you were not able to take advantage of that 54mbps because of your service you're still downloading slower than a typical wired connection. I would suggest checking the Firmware of you router to make sure its updated.
Typical wired connections from 10 years ago are 100 Mbps, nowadays they are typically 1 Gbps (still faster than 54 Mbps).

As far as DL speeds, you will get the same throughput from either the wired or the wireless as they are both faster than the internet connection (I've seen as high as 16 - 20 Mbps, which is < 54 Mbps or 1 Gbps). The internet connection is the bottleneck for 99% of broadband users, unless you have a fast cable modem connection that is over 11 Mbps and you are using 802.11B.

Right now I use the wireless connection because my wife can't stand a CAT6 cable through the middle of the living room floor (although I still have to bring it out to go on XBOX Live, but that's a different drama). If I ever get the NAS that I want then I will definitely switch to the wired and take advantage of the Gigabit speed, and hopefully have my house wired with CAT6 to every major room by then.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:36 PM   #25
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Must be reception or something. I use wireless and updates don't take a half hour. Demos would depend on size. I have comcast too. Do even just the fw updates that dont have major features take that long?
All firmware updates include the fixes/additions/bells and whistles from previous firmware updates. It's safe to say that firmware updates will get larger and larger and not vary in size with what is being updated.
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:53 PM   #26
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Typical wired connections from 10 years ago are 100 Mbps, nowadays they are typically 1 Gbps (still faster than 54 Mbps).

As far as DL speeds, you will get the same throughput from either the wired or the wireless as they are both faster than the internet connection (I've seen as high as 16 - 20 Mbps, which is < 54 Mbps or 1 Gbps). The internet connection is the bottleneck for 99% of broadband users, unless you have a fast cable modem connection that is over 11 Mbps and you are using 802.11B.

Right now I use the wireless connection because my wife can't stand a CAT6 cable through the middle of the living room floor (although I still have to bring it out to go on XBOX Live, but that's a different drama). If I ever get the NAS that I want then I will definitely switch to the wired and take advantage of the Gigabit speed, and hopefully have my house wired with CAT6 to every major room by then.
old thread I know anyways maybe I didn't make myself clear I was referring to the router not the hi speed internet.
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Old 07-06-2008, 07:05 PM   #27
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Takes me 8 minutes 10 seconds on Comcast via Linksys wireless g connection.
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:04 PM   #28
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Most likely not, unless you have a SCREAMING FAST internet connection. The wireless is (most likely) running at 54 Mbps and the wired is running at Gb speed. for almost everyone on the face of the planet, their internet connection is nowhere near as fast as the 54 Mbps (much less 1 Gbps). So in either case, your bottleneck is going to be your internet connection.

UNLESS you are running on wireless now and have a shoddy connection. I've seen that kill download speeds.
I was just about to post that. You sir are correct.
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:35 AM   #29
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ok, can someone please help me and tell me y bourn demo took me 20 hours to download on a wired connection. maybe my internet sux, i guess. i have no idea y???: oh and my fw updates take like hour and half.
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ok, can someone please help me and tell me y bourn demo took me 20 hours to download on a wired connection. maybe my internet sux, i guess. i have no idea y???: oh and my fw updates take like hour and half.
What type of internet connection do you have? DSL, Cable, or Fiber? Other? Do you know what your maximum connection speed is, per your ISP?
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:06 AM   #31
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What type of internet connection do you have? DSL, Cable, or Fiber? Other? Do you know what your maximum connection speed is, per your ISP?
I know i have DSL. Im not sure what the max speed is. Where would i find that info at?
I think i might have found that info. If this is it, it says im connected at 224 kbps ( downstream) and 128 kbps (upstream).

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Old 07-07-2008, 04:14 AM   #32
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Right now I use the wireless connection because my wife can't stand a CAT6 cable through the middle of the living room floor (although I still have to bring it out to go on XBOX Live, but that's a different drama). If I ever get the NAS that I want then I will definitely switch to the wired and take advantage of the Gigabit speed, and hopefully have my house wired with CAT6 to every major room by then.
Run it along you walls then. Thats what I did.

I would go with wired over wireless anytime. Losing connections is unacceptable when playing over PSN.

You can buy 50 feet of patch CAT6 cable for cheap over at monoprice.com Then use these to run them along your walls:

http://www.trianglecables.com/200-961.html

Don't use regular wire staplers on CAT6 There's a special staple gun and staple for CAT6, but that can get expensive... Just go with the cheap cable clips on the link above or any hardware store.
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I know i have DSL. Im not sure what the max speed is. Where would i find that info at?
I think i might have found that info. If this is it, it says im connected at 224 kbps ( downstream) and 128 kbps (upstream).
If those are your speeds then that may be your problem. How did you determine these speeds? If from a website that tests your bandwidth, then it may be ~224 KBps as opposed to ~224 Kbps (notice the B vs. the b). If your speed is actually 224 kbps, that is maybe 4 times faster than dial-up and not very desirable.
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Run it along you walls then. Thats what I did.

I would go with wired over wireless anytime. Losing connections is unacceptable when playing over PSN.

You can buy 50 feet of patch CAT6 cable for cheap over at monoprice.com Then use these to run them along your walls:

http://www.trianglecables.com/200-961.html

Don't use regular wire staplers on CAT6 There's a special staple gun and staple for CAT6, but that can get expensive... Just go with the cheap cable clips on the link above or any hardware store.
I had a 50 ft CAT6 cable going behind the couch and along the wall, but that wall has our fireplace and that's a no-no. I'm looking at having the CAT6 run through our walls and connect to an RJ45 faceplate in various parts of the house.
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:00 AM   #35
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You have to remember with F/W downloads everyone gets the same prompt to download it at the same time. This is going to make the bottleneck the source, which is PSN.

As for wired vs wireless. 54mbits per second = 6.75 mb per second. I am on a 2mb internet connection, therefore when I connected via ethernet I did not get any benefit at all. So if your internet is faster than 6.75mb per second then putting ethernet into the equation is going to benefit you.

Obviously if your router is far away from your PS3 its going to take a hit too.
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:25 AM   #36
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I would prefer to use wireless, but there are so many homes with wifi nearby that they cause my laptop to drop out fairly regularly, so I use a cable with my PS3 to guarantee the best connection.

It's rare for me to drop out of an online game, but it does happen
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I get anywhere from 6-11 Mbps via my wireless connection.. most of the time its the router and not the cable. I make it standard practice to reset my router about once a week.
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Old 07-13-2008, 07:35 AM   #38
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I've always understood that a wired connection is best, but sometimes wifi is the only option. I am thinking about picking up a three aerial wifi router to push out a nice strong signal that should over power the others in my area
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:24 PM   #39
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Ive only used wireless and its pretty fast and reliable
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