Best 32" 1080p, is 120Hz important?

[xAyoFoolx]

32lz800 > Tc-32lx700

[dereksworl]

Originally Posted by threenine

I am a big fan of Panasonic lcds...all two of them. I have the 32" model and I love it...Consumer Reports seems to agree. The 37" is 1080p and the 32" is 720p.

120hz Automotion makes me want to abuse myself...it's a gimmick and I think it gives people diarrhea...although the latest studies have yet to confirm.

Panasonic TC-32LX700 4 Life!

+1000!! I love my TC-32LX700 like it was my child

[dereksworl]

Originally Posted by Toptube

The 32LZ800 is 1080p

Its an '08 model.

The TC-32LX700 is capable of displaying 1080p as well. its just not 1080p native.

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by dereksworl

The TC-32LX700 is capable of displaying 1080p as well.

with a fixed pixel resolution of 1366x768, it will never display 1080p.

It might "accept" 1080p...but will never display it.



...of course if you sat far enough away, you would never notice the difference.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by Ectoplasm

120hz makes film (movies) look like video. I hate the effect. No changing of the settings, or removing of frame enhancement changes this. I have viewed multiple manufacturers of 120hz machines, played with the settings on all, and come to the same conclusion.

No, it doesn't. Cine-motion or MotionPlus do. 120hz simply resolves the 3:2 pulldown flickering issue in LCD TV's. You can turn off the Motionplus junk.

[dereksworl]

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

with a fixed pixel resolution of 1366x768, it will never display 1080p.

It might "accept" 1080p...but will never display it.



...of course if you sat far enough away, you would never notice the difference.

Well it must be some freak of technology because when i switch the 720p and 1080p signal one my ps3 i do see a difference. picture is significantly sharper and colors are more vivid. for ex. when i forget to uncheck(from the day before) 720p on the PS3 to force games to display 1080p i can clearly tell its in 720p even without checking the tv info. yes with my naked eye! and i say "damn i forgot to put it in 1080p." so i dont know if the tv is upscaling or what but i can clearly see the difference between the input signals.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by dereksworl

Well it must be some freak of technology because when i switch the 720p and 1080p signal one my ps3 i do see a difference. picture is significantly sharper and colors are more vivid. for ex. when i forget to uncheck(from the day before) 720p on the PS3 to force games to display 1080p i can clearly tell its in 720p even without checking the tv info. yes with my naked eye! and i say "damn i forgot to put it in 1080p." so i dont know if the tv is upscaling or what but i can clearly see the difference between the input signals.

Placebo. Assuming Crackn is right about the fixed resolution (and I have no reason to assume he's not) then it is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for it to display any higher than 720p. The 1080p signal would be accepted and downconverted to 720p. While I suppose you might see a difference between them... I doubt it. Have a friend help you do a true blind taste test and see if you can guess it right most of the time in 10 tries.

The TV simply does NOT have the pixels to display 1080p.

[dereksworl]

Originally Posted by aramis109

Placebo. Assuming Crackn is right about the fixed resolution (and I have no reason to assume he's not) then it is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for it to display any higher than 720p. The 1080p signal would be accepted and downconverted to 720p. While I suppose you might see a difference between them... I doubt it. Have a friend help you do a true blind taste test and see if you can guess it right most of the time in 10 tries.

The TV simply does NOT have the pixels to display 1080p.

hmm, maybe its just me. i got an eagle eye.

[MaleManGuy]

Good question. It's important for LCD only if it is implemented properly though.
I'd avoid all the confusion and get plasma...hehe. But since your heart is set on LCD... Sony and Samsung are good brands you can't go wrong. 120Hz is nice and is divisible for 24 to give you a multiple of 24fps ... this is the frame rate movies are recorded at. This will reduce jitter when playing back movies in 24fps mode on your player. It is supposed to help but LCD sucks enough so that you may not notice anyways ;-)

It also tries to fill in frames to give smoother motion on LCD. LCD pixels are slow to transition from white to black and may take longer to switch than the frame rate allows... so gimmicks are required to reduce the appearance of slow LCD pixels. Currently... I don't think there are any LCD TV's that provide 100% of the lines of resolution available on a fast moving picture... LCD is always worse than plasma in this respect... plasma pixels are by nature much faster.

Jeff

[Toptube]

Originally Posted by dereksworl

hmm, maybe its just me. i got an eagle eye.

Blu-rays DO look better on the lx700 when set to display at 1080p. 720p tvs are actually 1366x768---it uses those extra pixels and thus, better picture. Most games and DVDs don't benefit though, becauese most games max out at 720p and DVDs even less, so they can't ever properly fill those extra pixels. Games that do have 1080p do look better though. Like Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Upscaling 720p games to 1080p is really only beneficial on a 1080p actual display, where it has tons of extra pixels that need a good scaler to create the illusion of filling them.

[gvr4578]

Originally Posted by Ason12

I've been looking around for a nice bedroom 32" model. I can't seem to find the perfect one. I look at how some people say how great 120Hz is and others it doesn't matter. Then again, I keep finding conflicting reports of which 32" have 120Hz. I thought I'd ask you all instead.

TV's I'm considering (Very Open to new suggestions!!)

Sony KDL-32XBR6
Samsung LN32A650
LG 32LG60?

Thanks!

The sony 32xbr6 does not have the 120hz for sure.
I dont think the others have it either from what i have read.