HELP...Pioneer Kuro or Panasonic

[allstar780]

Originally Posted by teemacone

go see for yourself, the LGs are fantastic looking. The LG was much sharper than the new Samsung series, equitable to the Pannys, and slightly less black than the Pioneer. Money wasn't really an issue, but I saved two Gs from buying the Pio and I'm set for a new Sony 550 BDP and tons of new blu rays in September. May not be for everyone, but I like it a lot.

BTW, I just saw the new Pio 6020 at costco warehouse for 4299 if anyone is interested in that. Tempting, but I'm digging the new LG.

The LGs suffer from major blackwash... you get very deep blacks but you lose color detail as a result, better to stick with a brand that knows how to make TVs than a brand that should have stuck to refrigerators and cellphones. If really deep blacks are all you want, then sure, by all means get an LG or the 650 series samsungs, but if you want true colors, deep blacks, and a TV that is gonna last you a long time, go with Pio or Panny

[Sling]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

If you plan on watching a lot of BLU-RAY movies go with the Pioneer since it properly displays 1080P/24 at 72HZ. Before you purchase the Panasonic 800U or 850U ask the store owner or sales person if you can connect a BLU-RAY player up to it using the 1080P/24 output mode. If you place the Panasonic on the 48HZ film refresh mode it has been reported that there is an “unwatchable flicker” and at the very minimum a “flicker issue”. I would strongly go with the Pioneer over the Panasonic if you plan on watching a lot of BLU-RAY’s.

Thanks man..you saved me 3600.00 bucs
I did some research over at AVS after reading your post , flicker is a big problem with that particular display...Why Cnet gave it such a great rating.. ..they need to get there act together .
Anyway I will be going with Kuro

Thanks to all that participated in thread.


Phil C

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by greenmonster

The LG PG60 is a piece of beauty, and PQ + blacks compares favorably with the Panny's. But as far as some of the more stubborn, antiquated posters are concerned, keep paying premium price for the Pioneers.

Dude, for someone new, you sure aren't starting out on the right foot around here. You're welcome to your opinions, of course, but be prepared for those "antiquated posters" around here with a hell-of-a-lot more knowledge and experience than you to call you on it.

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by Sling

Thanks man..you saved me 3600.00 bucs
I did some research over at AVS after reading your post , flicker is a big problem with that particular display...Why Cnet gave it such a great rating.. ..they need to get there act together .
Anyway I will be going with Kuro

Thanks to all that participated in thread.


Phil C

Smart choice! I've got 3 Pany's, and love them, but if I had the money it would be a Kuro for me.

[jpthomas27]

Originally Posted by Sling

Upgrade time
Kuro or Panny...I'm confused with wallet full of cash

My choices,
Panasonic TH-50PZ800U ($3000 - $4000)
Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-111FD ($4000 - $5000)


Checking out cnet reviews Panny has better color/THX with great blacks.
Kuro has the better blacks yet color accuracy isn't as good as Panasonic.

I just went through the same process. I upgraded to a brand new plasma nad debated for ever between Panasonic and Pioneer. I read reviews, read this forum, read many other forums, looked at them at brick and mortar stores and in the end...went with the Panasonic. My eventual conclusion was that Pinoeer, although a little better TV, isn't worth the extra cash. I could have put put the extra money if I really wanted to, but an extra $1000 is a big deal to me and athough I do conseed that Pioneer is a little better, it isn't enough better (sorry about the bad grammar) to constitute the extra money.

I love my new Panasonic and have no regrets!

[richard lichtenfelt]

I noticed a few posts where people stated that once calibrated, the kuro would be closer in color accuracy to the Panny, but I read the review that the OP was referring to and the experts at CNET did calibrate both sets before comparing them side by side.
These sets are so similar that you should only go with the Pioneer if status symbols are important to you.
I would spend the extra grand and get the 58" Panny instead of the 50" Pioneer.

[Sling]

Kind of depressing really...What was Pansonic thinking

No money issues here but I would definitely pick up Panasonic TH-50PZ800U If there was firmware update around the corner to fix flicker.
I may just hold off on upgrading for a month or two ...maybe firmware update fix fingers crossed....If not , Kuro it is.

Some may be thinking ,,,Why wait , get the Kuro sling
My answer to that is White levels...Ive come across a lot of chit chat about whites not being so white, hmm that bothers me.
Don't get me wrong , Kuro is Grade A the king of Blacks yet Panasonic THX has got my attention.

Grrrrrr this sucks , I'm finding it hard to sleep at night because I'm dreaming I'm in BestBuy picking wrong Display lol

[allstar780]

you could always buy the panny and just not use it in 24p mode... just use it in 60Hz mode instead of 48Hz

[cobwebb]

Originally Posted by Sling

hmm so true..I pick up Kuro...do the 200hr fast break-in then get calibrated in 2 week of ownership....get a week of watching then I will know.

If picture doesn't work for me take back picking up panny .

You guys keep talking about calibrating your plasma. I am unfamiliar with that. How do you know if you need it calibrated and how do you do it? Thanks

[arush5268d]

Originally Posted by cobwebb

You guys keep talking about calibrating your plasma. I am unfamiliar with that. How do you know if you need it calibrated and how do you do it? Thanks

If you haven't done it, then you need to.


There's a stickie about calibration - and tons of threads about individual TV models.

[Sling]

"cybertecs" - AVS MEMBER posted Pictures of his PRO-110FD , I hope he doesn't get pissed at me for posting pictures yet I had to share what pushed me toward KURO












I will be buying a KURO..IM hooked !!!!!!