Sony's New Bravias

[Blurayfan88]

Originally Posted by Pelican170

No i agree. My brother has a Samsung LCD and its angles seem good, better than what that picture shows...

You can't judge the quality of the tv by that pic since it was taken in the dark obviously with the flash on. The only light source you see is from the camera.

[allstar780]

well just wait and see... it wont have an IPS panel and will have bad viewing angles

[Blurayfan88]

Originally Posted by allstar780

personally I think panny's 1 inch thick plasmas are a lot more impressive... especially since they are that thickness all the way through

Panasonic makes great tv's theres no doubt about that. I have a panny plasma in my bedroom. I prefer to watch live television and sports on the panny as is with most plasma sets vs lcds. However when it comes to bluray and watching movies, nothing compares to the bravia lineup. The colors, vibrancy, sharpness, and contrast ratio blow the panny out of the water.

[allstar780]

Originally Posted by Blurayfan88

Panasonic makes great tv's theres no doubt about that. I have a panny plasma in my bedroom. I prefer to watch live television and sports on the panny as is with most plasma sets vs lcds. However when it comes to bluray and watching movies, nothing compares to the bravia lineup. The colors, vibrancy, sharpness, and contrast ratio blow the panny out of the water.

Erhm... what panny do you have that can be out-performed by a sony? cuz the 75/700 and 85/800 pannys put any LCD to shame... you might not get as bright of colors but thats because you are getting the TRUE colors... they will be vibrant if they are supposed to be. and i dont know of a single LCD that has a real life contrast ratio that can outdo a panny plasma

[Blurayfan88]

I have the Viera TH-50PZ800U. bought it not too long ago. Picture does not compare to the the Bravia KDL-70XBR3. Yea I paid 25,000 more for it, but it was well worth it. I actually prefer the pixture on my old 60" sxrd Lcd-Projection over the Panny when it comes to Bluray as well. We entertain a lot of guests in our home and I havent had a single guest prefer the Panny over the Sony, sorry...the truth speaks for itself. I have no reason to be biased

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by allstar780

Erhm... what panny do you have that can be out-performed by a sony? cuz the 75/700 and 85/800 pannys put any LCD to shame... you might not get as bright of colors but thats because you are getting the TRUE colors... they will be vibrant if they are supposed to be. and i dont know of a single LCD that has a real life contrast ratio that can outdo a panny plasma

We get it... your panasonic plasma is the greatest tv in the world and everything else is crap.

[Chevypower]

I too was all for the pz800 till I actually saw one - I have loved the xbr series for a long time - hopefully the 8 will be as impressive as I think it will

[mjbethancourt]

... already coveting the XBR8 and W1.

[allstar780]

i wouldnt even think about buying a sony... having done a TON of comparison shopping... panasonic or pioneer are the only options that i would consider

Theres a lot of variables not taken into account with the TVs you have, when you say one is better than the other

-Are you comparing using the same movie and the same player?
-Are the rooms used in the same lighting/viewing conditions?
-What picture mode is each of the TVs on?
-Is either of the TVs ISF calibrated?

I mean, realistically speaking, out of the box settings in the same room, if the TVs were the same size, connected to the same source running the same material... thats the only way the comparison could be fair... but since thats not the case obviously its a lot harder to compare the sets... but i can almost guarantee under these conditions the panny would be better.

[allstar780]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

We get it... your panasonic plasma is the greatest tv in the world and everything else is crap.

Actually i dont own one. I only have a panny LCD for now... but I sell TVs for a living and have done a lot of comparison shopping before I take the plunge and upgrade... and the panny is the best aside from pioneer.

[doctorsteve]

Originally Posted by allstar780

if the picture with the girl standing to the side of the TV is any indication that TV has wretched viewing angles!

Nope, a trick of light, the girl has been fully illuminated with the camera flash, the angled front surface of the screen has not. Even if it had, the flash of the camera (and it's reflection - regardless of anti-reflective coating) would have washed out the picture coming from the screen. The only solution would be to allow a longer aperture time to allow ambient light and screen out put to give a more appropriate lighting level.

Even so, the screen would have looked too bright (since it IS a light source and the girl is not).

This photograph is not a good example for comparison. Hold your horses.

[Blurayfan88]

Originally Posted by allstar780

Actually i dont own one. I only have a panny LCD for now... but I sell TVs for a living and have done a lot of comparison shopping before I take the plunge and upgrade... and the panny is the best aside from pioneer.

All my TV's were calibrated by the same home theater company in Newport beach. I love the panny , it's the tv I prefer to use when I watch my sports. I can't wait for the 08. NHL season to start, which is the primary reason why I bought it. I just think that my bravias produe a better picture especially when watching blurays.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by allstar780

well just wait and see... it wont have an IPS panel and will have bad viewing angles

Man, IPS is totally outdated, it's like four or five generations ago. It's 1996 technology, with a very slow response time. The industry moved on from that to better tech like SPVA or CPA a long time ago; now almost everybody has their own proprietary variation of it. Don't crap on what you don't understand.

[allstar780]

oh really? is that why the new panasonic LCDs use IPS alpha and have the same response time as a 120Hz LCD?

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by allstar780

oh really? is that why the new panasonic LCDs use IPS alpha and have the same response time as a 120Hz LCD?

That's the best reason I've heard yet for not buying one.
No way does it have the same response time as an SPVA Samsung (or other manufacturer), you're smoking crack.

edit: Just looked it up -- 8ms response; that's not so good versus 4ms CPA Sharp aquos and SPVA Samsung ToC A650.

[Valore]

Originally Posted by Blurayfan88

Worlds thinnest LCD 9.9mm

Sony Bravia ZX1

40-"KDL-40ZX1"

Featuring a LED backlighting, a 3,000:1 contrast ratio, 120Hz MotionFlow tech, x.v.Color and BRAVIA Engine 2 image processing. Only 1080i max resolution however. $ 4,474 MSRP

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Sony Bravia XR1 aka XBR8

KDL-55XR1, KDL-46XR1

One Million: 1 Contrast

will feature a 1,000,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio (3,000:1 static) courtesy of those new TRILUMINOS three-color LEDs, 10-bit BRAVIA Engine 2 processing and Motionflow 120Hz technology. If you can live without 240Hz or WHDI, the 1080p 55-inch edition runs ¥750,000 ($6,489 U.S.) with a 46-inch for ¥600,000 ($5,479 U.S.)



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[allstar780]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

That's the best reason I've heard yet for not buying one.
No way does it have the same response time as an SPVA Samsung (or other manufacturer), you're smoking crack.

edit: Just looked it up -- 8ms response; that's not so good versus 4ms CPA Sharp aquos and SPVA Samsung ToC A650.

IPS Alpha response is not 8ms, its 6.7... and i've compared it side by side with many other TVs, and i see no difference.... and its only 0.7ms slower than my 120Hz set.