2001: A Space Odyssey: Long black intro???

[JJJ225]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

But you don't need theories -- the whole movie is explained in the novel, written by Arthur C. Clarke who also wrote the screenplay.

But we're not talking about the novel. The film is a seperate entity, and I don't really think it's that interesting to just refer to the source material.

[SDon1969]

That long intro is a great and unique experience, to me it sets the tone and mood of the film without ever seeing a scene or hearing a line.

[surfdude12]

actually the 3 minutes has very real significance:

the first 3-4 min = beginning of earth until dawn of man = 4 billion years

the 0.2 second shot (bone to rocket) = dawn of man to space age = 3 million years

thus, the 4 billion years/3-4min ratio is the same as 3 million years/0.2 seconds ratio.

in other words, 15 million years/sec is going by in the first 3 minutes and in the bone-to-rocket shot.

[AintNoSin]

Originally Posted by J.Cornelius

I have never read the book nor do I have any desire to.....My point is that the movie presents many aspects to ponder without any explanation which is the true genius of the movie! If Kubrick were to "explain" the meaning or theories in the film it would discredit his work and there is no way we would be talking about the film more than 30 years later. "The infinite and Beyond"

You must hate 2010...

[Blu_Dude]

Originally Posted by izanaki

During the very beginning of the movie there is a LONG black screen with music. Does anyone else get this on their PS3?

I had to fast forward to 30x to get to the start of the 1st scene.

I don't mind it because music is the majority of the movie, anyway. There is very little dialog.

[tron3]

Think of it this way. You can sit through 3 minutes of intro music where as the movie has already started, or sit through 5 more minutes of previews.

Show of hands for intro music.

Show of hands for more preview crap.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by tron3

I too was a bit confused with the black overture, but waited to see what happens. When the intermission screen came up, I was a bit surprised but ran to the bathroom nonetheless.

And here, as quarterly, we go back into the obligatory "Y'see, in Gramps' day, there used to be these things called 'theaters'..." post.

(And explanation of how three-hour big-city "Roadshow engagements", like the original faux-Cinerama release, treated themselves as Broadway shows, complete with program, balcony seats, intermissions, whopping "prestige" five-dollar ticket price, and five-minute Overtures--
Unless you'd rather see a movie on Blu-ray actually CUT SOMETHING OUT of the original-archive version of a restored movie? )

[Grandpa-Blu]

I don't have a problem with black. People or screens, either way; beautiful to look at.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by Grandpa-Blu

I don't have a problem with black. People or screens, either way; beautiful to look at.

You wouldn't happen to be Grandpa Alexajeff perchance, would you?

[J6P]

Originally Posted by EricJ

And here, as quarterly, we go back into the obligatory "Y'see, in Gramps' day, there used to be these things called 'theaters'..." post.

(And explanation of how three-hour big-city "Roadshow engagements", like the original faux-Cinerama release, treated themselves as Broadway shows, complete with program, balcony seats, intermissions, whopping "prestige" five-dollar ticket price, and five-minute Overtures--
Unless you'd rather see a movie on Blu-ray actually CUT SOMETHING OUT of the original-archive version of a restored movie? )

True. Actually, it's nothing unique to 2001. Overtures and Intermissions were fairly common in the golden age of cinema. When Lawrence of Arabia is released on Blu at long last, we'll hear these same questions all over again.

[stockstar1138]

i wouldn't have an issue with the 3 min.overture intro, but there is just those gosh darn black bars during it

[Octavio]

Originally Posted by tron3

Think of it this way. You can sit through 3 minutes of intro music where as the movie has already started, or sit through 5 more minutes of previews.

Show of hands for intro music.

Show of hands for more preview crap.

+1 for intro music

[CheapChildren]

Originally Posted by izanaki

During the very beginning of the movie there is a LONG black screen with music. Does anyone else get this on their PS3?

I had to fast forward to 30x to get to the start of the 1st scene.

hahaha

[Grandpa-Blu]

Originally Posted by aramis109

You wouldn't happen to be Grandpa Alexajeff perchance, would you?

Who? I'm not racist if that's what you're implying.

[Grand Bob]

The "spacey" intro music was a mood setting device for people that were being seated in the theater prior to the beginning of the movie. This was particularly effective for the large Cinerama theaters when the movie was released in 1968. When I saw the movie back then, there were no coming attractions - just the intro music, then the screen curtains opened when "Thus Spake Zarathustra" began with the space shot of the sun rising over the earth. Highly effective.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by J6P

True. Actually, it's nothing unique to 2001. Overtures and Intermissions were fairly common in the golden age of cinema. When Lawrence of Arabia is released on Blu at long last, we'll hear these same questions all over again.

Fox at least puts "Overture", "Exit Music", etc. title cards on screen for its ex-roadshow musicals/epics, it's only MGM (from old Warner masters) that seems to be the Black-Screen offender...

(And if PS Network hints are any indication, expect the same questions about "Doctor Zhivago", too...)

[Midnightsailor]

Yet another one of these threads. Let's get to the point. 2001 is one of the most incredible films ever made. If you disagree... then god help you.

[AintNoSin]

Originally Posted by Midnightsailor

Yet another one of these threads. Let's get to the point. 2001 is one of the most incredible films ever made. If you disagree... then god help you.

If they're that far gone, I don't think even god can help them.

[GGX]

Originally Posted by izanaki

During the very beginning of the movie there is a LONG black screen with music. Does anyone else get this on their PS3?

I had to fast forward to 30x to get to the start of the 1st scene.

The first scene is the one at the beginning with the black screen and the music. There is nothing wrong with your PS3.

[raymondp]

Originally Posted by izanaki

During the very beginning of the movie there is a LONG black screen with music. Does anyone else get this on their PS3?

I had to fast forward to 30x to get to the start of the 1st scene.

Thats because it is a copy of the original movie which had what is termed a "Playin", music that played while audiences walked in a became seated. When the "playin" finished the curtains would open an the movie began.

Ray