Disney Blu Rays - Limited availability

[tron3]

I know these are classic Disney films, and I am certain I would enjoy them, but I don't purchase 2-D animation. Not even my beloved Simpsons Movie.

Given my anal nature once I start collecting, I would be obsessed with getting all this stuff to complete my collection. I'm sorry, but waiting on Pixar is enough for me. I would love Disney's TRON and The Black Hole, though.

I've told this story before. My sister waited too long to buy Beauty and the Beast on VHS. Could not find it in ANY store. At the time, getting it off the Internet wasn't really possible for her. She went on vacation to Disney and just figured she would buy it at the Disney store. No such luck.

Long story short, she cancelled a dinner date with her girlfriend to pick up the DVD on release day TEN YEARS LATER. She tells me how she grabbed it with anticipation shouting, "YEEEE-aaaaah!"

She litterally waited 10 years for a Disney movie. I tell the story of waiting 14 months and a day for Transformers on blu-ray, and it simply can't compare. Especially since I did have the DVD as a gift.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by tron3

I've told this story before. My sister waited too long to buy Beauty and the Beast on VHS. Could not find it in ANY store. At the time, getting it off the Internet wasn't really possible for her. She went on vacation to Disney and just figured she would buy it at the Disney store. No such luck.

Long story short, she cancelled a dinner date with her girlfriend to pick up the DVD on release day TEN YEARS LATER. She tells me how she grabbed it with anticipation shouting, "YEEEE-aaaaah!"

She litterally waited 10 years for a Disney movie. I tell the story of waiting 14 months and a day for Transformers on blu-ray, and it simply can't compare. Especially since I did have the DVD as a gift.

Fact #1: Beauty and the Beast became available on home video in 1992.

Fact #2: It was readily available in many stores for years because retailers bought so many copies - we will be extremely conservative and assume 1995 as the year when Beauty and the Beast started to become scarce on home video.

Fact #3: Beauty and the Beast was released to DVD in the Fall of 2002.

I highly doubt your sister waited 10 years for Beauty and the Beast - more then likely she put it off and put it off and put it off and then sometime after 1996, realized she wanted to buy it and then couldn't find it.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Fact #1: Beauty and the Beast became available on home video in 1992.

Fact #2: It was readily available in many stores for years because retailers bought so many copies - we will be extremely conservative and assume 1995 as the year when Beauty and the Beast started to become scarce on home video.

Fact #3: Beauty and the Beast was released to DVD in the Fall of 2002.

I highly doubt your sister waited 10 years for Beauty and the Beast - more then likely she put it off and put it off and put it off and then sometime after 1996, realized she wanted to buy it and then couldn't find it.

I could be wrong on the title name, which makes "the facts" irrelevent. That is what she told me. Possible she rounded the number in her head, but she did wait years - available or not.

[Joe Cain]

Originally Posted by tron3

she did wait years

Which is what one does for Disney animated features. Except from 1942/3-1949....or the mid-70s through '88...or from '95 on...

From the studio's perspective, the perennially-in-print model is less efficient and less profitable than vaulting.

And since better presentation quality is the best reason to upgrade to the latest model, I think the vault has benefited consumers by encouraging the studio's ongoing commitment to restoration.

[nbxfan]

Originally Posted by tron3

I would love Disney's TRON and The Black Hole, though.

Maybe when the new Tron 2 comes out in a couple of years the original will be released as well.

[P@t_Mtl]

I remember getting Cinderella on VHS format back in the fall of 1988.

Was that the first ever release of a Disney movie on home video format, or was there some done before? On BETA?

[Musashi]

I have to figure that vaulting can backfire. If it's the 4th year of moratorium and I'm up for buying a movie but Disney's aren't available, somebody else's getting my purchase.

[1Fish2FishRedFishBlu]

Originally Posted by SpikesBluBlooded

Now, my question is: what in the world do you do for a living that you can spend this much time posting on Blu-ray.com?!?!

He obviously doesnt spend much time WATCHING blu cause he only has 2 in his collection. "Collection: (2)"

[BLUE MYSTIC RAIN]

Pinocchio was the first vhs put out then in the vault .
It was a puffy case with pinocchio and jiminy cricket walking at night.
I still have it!!!
P.S. Movies were mainly out for rental purposes back in the 80's ,alot of movies cost 79.95 if you wanted them, after awhile they(mainly Paramount) started releasing movies for 39.95 .
The first big ones were Beverly Hills Cop, Radiers of the Lost Ark,Then Warner Brothers joined in with Risky Business and after awhile the prices started to drop .
I remember paying 79.95 for alot of movies back then like all the Star Wars, Gremlins, Sixteen Candles. FOX went in the opposite direction and started charging 89.95 per movie starting with Aliens, I had to have it !!! It Was a while before the low prices we see today .
A movie release was big news back then , especially Disney .

[Johk]

So are the Pixar releases part of the Vault...

I might have to buy Cars and Ratatouille...

[monkyman]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

i recently bought Snow White and Sleeping Beauty for $30+ each on ebay after they were locked away in Disney's Vault. that's for standard dvd, now image what you could get for them on blu-ray after they are released and then locked away again!!!

How does the saying go? Theres a sucker born every minute.

[Lucy Diamond]

"I remember paying 79.95 for alot of movies back then like all the Star Wars..."

My Dad bought me TopGun for Easter one year for $79.99.

I remember it took something like 3 months for the order to come in at the local video store.

[fighthefutureofhd]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I remember getting Cinderella on VHS format back in the fall of 1988.

Was that the first ever release of a Disney movie on home video format, or was there some done before? On BETA?

no, it was like the 3rd or something like that. i believe robin hood was the first.

Originally Posted by BLUE MYSTIC RAIN

Pinocchio was the first vhs put out then in the vault .
It was a puffy case with pinocchio and jiminy cricket walking at night.
I still have it!!!
P.S. Movies were mainly out for rental purposes back in the 80's ,alot of movies cost 79.95 if you wanted them, after awhile they(mainly Paramount) started releasing movies for 39.95 .
The first big ones were Beverly Hills Cop, Radiers of the Lost Ark,Then Warner Brothers joined in with Risky Business and after awhile the prices started to drop .
I remember paying 79.95 for alot of movies back then like all the Star Wars, Gremlins, Sixteen Candles. FOX went in the opposite direction and started charging 89.95 per movie starting with Aliens, I had to have it !!! It Was a while before the low prices we see today .
A movie release was big news back then , especially Disney .

wasn't robin hood the first one to come out? i know that pinocchio came out in the spring of 1985. i checked and robin hood was the first one to come out on video. it came out one year before pinocchio.

[Red Hood]

I have been waiting to Purchase Fantasia forever, will finally do it this time.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Musashi

I have to figure that vaulting can backfire. If it's the 4th year of moratorium and I'm up for buying a movie but Disney's aren't available, somebody else's getting my purchase.

Yeah, but just about every quarter, Disney streets some classic title or modern animated film, so its a constant process -- like a gardner turning over the topsoil, Disney is always refreshing their wares on home video.

In other words, Disney doesn't think they're losing your money on the 4th year of the moratorium of a title, because they just released another one of their cultural and financial blockbusters and you're likely to pick that up. And at this point in the history of home video, if you don't already own a copy of a favorite movie on Blu-Ray, that means you already own two copies in two different formats and you now want it on a third.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by BLUE MYSTIC RAIN

Pinocchio was the first vhs put out then in the vault .
It was a puffy case with pinocchio and jiminy cricket walking at night.
I still have it!!!
P.S. Movies were mainly out for rental purposes back in the 80's ,alot of movies cost 79.95 if you wanted them, after awhile they(mainly Paramount) started releasing movies for 39.95 .
The first big ones were Beverly Hills Cop, Radiers of the Lost Ark,Then Warner Brothers joined in with Risky Business and after awhile the prices started to drop .
I remember paying 79.95 for alot of movies back then like all the Star Wars, Gremlins, Sixteen Candles. FOX went in the opposite direction and started charging 89.95 per movie starting with Aliens, I had to have it !!! It Was a while before the low prices we see today .
A movie release was big news back then , especially Disney .

Ah yes! the good old days My dad bought a Betamax in 1978 at Sears, cost something like $600, a huge amount back then. I bought my first video in 1984, a Olivia Newton John concert (had a HUGE crush on her...ok I still do ) for something like $80 bucks. That was a lot of safed pocket money and lawn cutting jobs

[VHS4Ever]

I never knew this. So that is why the price of Disney cartoons are always high.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

wasn't robin hood the first one to come out? i know that pinocchio came out in the spring of 1985. i checked and robin hood was the first one to come out on video. it came out one year before pinocchio.

Up to that point, for years, we'd had the Five Disney Orphans (Robin Hood, Sword/Stone, Alice, Dumbo, and Three Caballeros), of the five most "unwanted" Disney titles that for a while were all that were available on VHS or broadcast--While any other classic footage had to be hidden away in excerpts on clip collections or Sing-Along videos.
Pinocchio was the first "real" title after the five caught on, but even then we had the Platinum style "Limited time" Fall-holiday sales.

(And anyone who believes we keep "two copies" of a double-dipped title doesn't know his history of Disney releases...
So, how many are actually going to KEEP their old '99 "Limited Edition" DVD of Pinocchio?)

[Dr.Mirakle32]

For some reason, I'd really been wanting to watch Aladdin lately, a personal favorite that I was obsessed with as a small child. So I went to Target, Wal-Mart and Amazon, to realize it is out of print, despite me seeing it in stores only a few months earlier. I figure it will be at least another five years until it comes out on BD, so I caved in and paid 25 bucks when I finally found a new copy of the DVD at FYE. The quality was pretty good, but I would rather have paid that 25 bucks on a perfect BD edition.

[BLUE MYSTIC RAIN]

You answered the question for me , thank you!
I do have a question for you.
I don't understand the last part of your question , are you saying you think it's silly that i have the originals still or you think it's great?
They were such a big deal when released that i bought everyone even the dvds now blu-ray so i guess im a Disney triple dipper freak!!!
If was going to give away my vhs collect i just never did .
could i get money for them or not much ,how about the 1985 Pinocchio one???
P.S. though i must admit all of those vhs movies that i paid so much for are now in a box on the floor of my basement .
Only my Disney ones are nicely stored away in a trunk in my middle bedroom.