Sony doesn't respect the European customers

[HD-Greek]

Originally Posted by jorg

no one hates the euro customers its just because look at all the different languages and standers euro has versus north America and sony clossing the diffrents normlay 9 month in between usa and euro this time only 6 months

Yes but what about the price? 600$ is 450E......and we pay 600E....

[jorg]

i see what your thinking but its very "unfair" to compar curerencys and i think some are paying more i think if u wanan see if your getting riped off compar all the fetures for example how much would the 360 cost versuse the ps3 include the base price of hard drive console plus wireless plug high definetion drive plus wireless controller and so on

[HD-Greek]

Originally Posted by jorg

i see what your thinking but its very "unfair" to compar curerencys and i think some are paying more i think if u wanan see if your getting riped off compar all the fetures for example how much would the 360 cost versuse the ps3 include the base price of hard drive console plus wireless plug high definetion drive plus wireless controller and so on

i understand but when the same product xbox 360 for example cost 399$ in the US and 399E isn't it unfair?

[jorg]

in real life it can be but its supose to be isent it unfair that the uk has to pay more then you just becuase there curency is more should every one pay 399 pounds just becuase they have to?

[HD-Greek]

Originally Posted by jorg

in real life it can be but its supose to be isent it unfair that the uk has to pay more then you just becuase there curency is more should every one pay 399 pounds just becuase they have to?

If you want to know in Greece the PS3 costs 659E......it's more expensive even than the UK.....(but some shops will sell it for 599E and some others for 625E)........................

[Maximus]

It works out that the average comparable price across Europe is about $675. I say comparable because we have tax included in all of our selling prices, whereas the US does not. Sony have given themselves a 10% margin for error on the currency markets, which is quite a lot, so they are definitely creaming some off the top.

[jorg]

alrigth you win lol but i think sony will only lose aroun d 50$ on euro/pal region ps3

[HD-Greek]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

It works out that the average comparable price across Europe is about $675. I say comparable because we have tax included in all of our selling prices, whereas the US does not. Sony have given themselves a 10% margin for error on the currency markets, which is quite a lot, so they are definitely creaming some off the top.

You want to say 675E not 675$.....

[HD-Greek]

Originally Posted by jorg

alrigth you win lol but i think sony will only lose aroun d 50$ on euro/pal region ps3

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by HD-Greek

You want to say 675E not 675$.....

No $675, once you account for tax of about 15% across Europe (some places have it higher and other lower, but 15% is about right), you have €599=$797. $797/1.15=$690, but as the UK is getting the lion's share of units I lowered it as tax is 17.5% here. Sony have set a price of €599 across the whole of Europe, if retailers do not stick to that there is nothing they can do, so your price of €675 is set by the retailer as they will cream off about €100 from that as profit, €85 goes to the government in VAT/sales tax, and the rest, €490, will go to Sony.

[HD-Greek]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

No $675, once you account for tax of about 15% across Europe (some places have it higher and other lower, but 15% is about right), you have €599=$797. $797/1.15=$690, but as the UK is getting the lion's share of units I lowered it as tax is 17.5% here. Sony have set a price of €599 across the whole of Europe, if retailers do not stick to that there is nothing they can do, so your price of €675 is set by the retailer as they will cream off about €100 from that as profit, €85 goes to the government in VAT/sales tax, and the rest, €490, will go to Sony.

Actually in Greece in some places we have 19% tax and in some other 13%(where i live so i will pay 625E)..................thanks anyway.....

[Scorxpion]

Yes this is true only In JAPAN PS3 is Japanese whereas around the world it is made in China ,,Anyway the parts assembly in it are Japanese but assembled in China..........Dont worry its like Japanese.........Granted

[Amon37]

I have a US launch day PS3. On the box everything was made in China. The console, the controller, the USB cable, the Ethernet cable. All say made in China.

[HD-Greek]

thanks all of you.......now i buy it for sure.....

[Gremal]

Isn't everything in the universe made in China.

[HDTV1080P]

In terms of quality the USA, Japan, China, and many other countries can make high quality products on robotic assembly lines. The advantage of having products made in China is a lower cost product can be made. China has made both high quality and low quality products.
Once an engineer designs a product a company will try and find the lowest cost place in the world to get that product developed and at the same time try and maintain quality production standards.
We live in a global economy. As soon as one company starts outsourcing all other companies need to follow to stay competitive.

[Blackraven]

Which reminds me.....which CE device is easier to make (or easier to make it higher-quality):

Sony PS3 or Sony BRAVIA TV???

I ask this becuase:

If it is easier to make a PS3 console that is of higher-quality compared to producing an HDTV set, then it shouldn't be a problem as to where the PS3 is made (or where it is manufactured).

So in respect, it doesn't matter AT ALL if the PS3 is made in Japan or in China/Malaysia.

But it is not okay if your BRAVIA is made in place outside Japan (like in Mexico for stateside people who bought XBR 2/3 sets).

So yeah, I guess there's nothing to worry about. And besides, Foxconn and ASUS have been in the electronics/computer hardware business for decades. I'm sure there's nothing to worry about reputation.

Hey at least it's better than buying a car that's made in China than compared to buying a PS3 built from the same country.

[Slackr89]

launch consoles were made in japan, and Sony has been setting up plants in China to continue production. Most PS3's are made in China now

[HD-Greek]

Originally Posted by Slackr89

launch consoles were made in japan, and Sony has been setting up plants in China to continue production. Most PS3's are made in China now

Yes.............but why european launch consoles aren't made in japan too?

[Amon37]

Why weren't US consoles made in Japan? Honestly what difference does it make?

My Chinese manufactured PS3 has been working great for over 4 months now.