Please Call Warner regarding Matrix Revolutions Glitch - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

quexos · 11-07-2008, 06:32 PM

Great, just what we needed, a glitch

I haven't seen the Matrix Revolution Bluray yet but I guess the glitch will be there.

Jeff Kleist · 11-07-2008, 08:09 PM

It's not a compression error, it's an error on the master

We're working on it, but it's very low priority because it's not getting repressed until after the holidays and everyone is tied up in holiday mode right now

DanFan · 11-07-2008, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

It's not a compression error, it's an error on the master

We're working on it, but it's very low priority because it's not getting repressed until after the holidays and everyone is tied up in holiday mode right now

Thanks Jeff!!

DVD FOREVER · 11-08-2008, 02:51 AM

Thanks for the reply Jeff. Error on the master huh? That means the problem was there before it was even encoded unless you mean on the DLT master. At least it will get looked into at some point

Jeff Kleist · 11-08-2008, 03:12 AM

No, I mean the stamping master

The "negative" that the disc is made from. Since the error is not present on the HD DVD and it's the same encode

That's the current hypothesis anyway

DVD FOREVER · 11-08-2008, 03:31 AM

Hey Jeff,

I gotcha. Along time ago at a facility I visited, I remember someone referring to the stamper as a father and mother like a hierarchy at the facility. This is another reason why it's so important for all check discs to be actually quality checked before the entire run is made. Too often, actual check disc are spot checked only. I have no idea if Revolutions was or not but it's good that the studio knows about it. It sounds like this issue is more or less in Warners hands and it's a done issue... for now. Thanks again

Ranger-R · 11-08-2008, 03:35 AM

Didn't notice it on my S350. Will check again, but I think i would of caught it.

jlaavenger · 11-13-2008, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

It's not a compression error, it's an error on the master

We're working on it, but it's very low priority because it's not getting repressed until after the holidays and everyone is tied up in holiday mode right now

Will all three Matrix Films, the Matrix, Matrix: Reloaded and Matrix Revolutions be released as single Blu-Ray Discs next year or just the first one?

Xen · 11-13-2008, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broganreynik

heck, I haven't even replaced my Pirates of the Caribbean due to the framing issues yet. It's inexcusable, but I'm not gonna risk losing my movie in the mail for a measly 3 frames.

Ha! I forgot all about that. Yeah, I never replaced my PotC either. I don't mind it really, never noticed it until someone pointed it out. I was going to replace it until Disney asked me to mail out my disc. Too much trouble for me, so I'll stick with the "defect."

mike7478 · 11-13-2008, 11:50 AM

I thought I noticed some kind of similar error on one scene of the first Matrix film. When Neo is fighting Morpheus in the sparring program. Near the end of the sparring Neo's punches become blurred and rapid (like Agent Smith's punches in the Subway fight) and on the one shot from the perspective of Morpheus facing Neo, I thought his punch looked all blocked-out. Other people who own this might want to check that scene.

Grubert · 11-30-2008, 04:46 PM

I have tested the UK version on a European PS3 and a US Panasonic BD30.

FWIW, the serial numbers on the inside ring of the Revolutions disc are:

A0100994314-A911
A0100994314-B911

The glitch is still there. Sorry about the previous erroneous info, and thanks to sam89 for pointing it out.

thefutureofhollywood · 11-30-2008, 05:14 PM

i didn't have any glitches.

sam89 · 11-30-2008, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grubert

I have the UK set and there is no glitch on Matrix Revolutions. I have gone through the reported scene in normal playback and frame by frame. No picture breakup or frame skip.

I have tested it on a European PS3 and a US Panasonic BD30.

FWIW, the serial numbers on the inside ring of the Revolutions disc are:

A0100994314-A911
A0100994314-B911

Great news! I'll be picking up the UK set for Christmas!

However, two people here claim that there is a glitch:
http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/s...=513078&page=4

Read LordoftheDance's and Jabbitt's comments towards the bottom of the page. Are you sure there is no glitch?

GGX · 11-30-2008, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xen

Ha! I forgot all about that. Yeah, I never replaced my PotC either. I don't mind it really, never noticed it until someone pointed it out. I was going to replace it until Disney asked me to mail out my disc. Too much trouble for me, so I'll stick with the "defect."

OMG. I couldn't imagine doing that. I must have my movies the way they are meant to be seen.

TheForce8686 · 11-30-2008, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GGX

OMG. I couldn't imagine doing that. I must have my movies the way they are meant to be seen.

I have never noticed the pirates glitch or the matrix glitch. Maybe I got lucky and got good copies.

Grubert · 11-30-2008, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam89

Great news! I'll be picking up the UK set for Christmas!

However, two people here claim that there is a glitch:
http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/s...=513078&page=4

Read LordoftheDance's and Jabbitt's comments towards the bottom of the page. Are you sure there is no glitch?

My bad - I was looking at 1:45:56 and not 1:45:46. Sadly, the glitch is still there.

Blu-Jawa · 12-02-2008, 07:23 AM

IMO the Studio's should try getting some film fans to view there master prints before making the blu-rays. I am sure there are lots of people that would be happy to see a free film and in return they would check to see that the film master looks and sounds as perfect as it can be.

there would be less errors like this getting out and the studio would not have to Re-print.

as for Matrix on Blu at 99 bucks it's too Expensive for a Catalog title.

Jeff Kleist · 12-02-2008, 07:27 AM

This is a physical defect in the stamper, not in the compression or anything else. Manufacturing error

micks_address · 12-02-2008, 07:31 AM

Is it likely to be addresed with an exchange program Jeff? I imported my set from the US to Ireland... so i wonder how will i be able to get it fixed? To be honest havent got to watching all of revolutions yet...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

This is a physical defect in the stamper, not in the compression or anything else. Manufacturing error

Grubert · 12-02-2008, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

This is a physical defect in the stamper, not in the compression or anything else. Manufacturing error

Yeah, but this disc comes from the UK edition, which released in November 24. They had a full month to repress after the glitch reports.

11-30-2008, 04:46 PM	#31
Grubert Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jan 2006 Blu-ray collection:573 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	I have tested the UK version on a European PS3 and a US Panasonic BD30. FWIW, the serial numbers on the inside ring of the Revolutions disc are: A0100994314-A911 A0100994314-B911 The glitch is still there. Sorry about the previous erroneous info, and thanks to sam89 for pointing it out. Last edited by Grubert; 11-30-2008 at 06:11 PM.

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11-07-2008, 06:32 PM	#21
quexos Banned Member since:May 2007 Location:Brussels, Belgium	Great, just what we needed, a glitch I haven't seen the Matrix Revolution Bluray yet but I guess the glitch will be there.

11-07-2008, 08:09 PM	#22
Jeff Kleist The Digital Bits Member since:Jul 2008 Trading Score:1	It's not a compression error, it's an error on the master We're working on it, but it's very low priority because it's not getting repressed until after the holidays and everyone is tied up in holiday mode right now

11-08-2008, 02:51 AM	#24
DVD FOREVER Member Member since:Oct 2008	Thanks for the reply Jeff. Error on the master huh? That means the problem was there before it was even encoded unless you mean on the DLT master. At least it will get looked into at some point

11-08-2008, 03:12 AM	#25
Jeff Kleist The Digital Bits Member since:Jul 2008 Trading Score:1	No, I mean the stamping master The "negative" that the disc is made from. Since the error is not present on the HD DVD and it's the same encode That's the current hypothesis anyway

11-08-2008, 03:31 AM	#26
DVD FOREVER Member Member since:Oct 2008	Hey Jeff, I gotcha. Along time ago at a facility I visited, I remember someone referring to the stamper as a father and mother like a hierarchy at the facility. This is another reason why it's so important for all check discs to be actually quality checked before the entire run is made. Too often, actual check disc are spot checked only. I have no idea if Revolutions was or not but it's good that the studio knows about it. It sounds like this issue is more or less in Warners hands and it's a done issue... for now. Thanks again

11-08-2008, 03:35 AM	#27
Ranger-R Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Washington Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:1808 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:80	Didn't notice it on my S350. Will check again, but I think i would of caught it.

11-13-2008, 11:50 AM	#30
mike7478 Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Worcester, UK Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:3	I thought I noticed some kind of similar error on one scene of the first Matrix film. When Neo is fighting Morpheus in the sparring program. Near the end of the sparring Neo's punches become blurred and rapid (like Agent Smith's punches in the Subway fight) and on the one shot from the perspective of Morpheus facing Neo, I thought his punch looked all blocked-out. Other people who own this might want to check that scene.

11-30-2008, 05:14 PM	#32
thefutureofhollywood Active Member Member since:Mar 2008 4K collection:167 Blu-ray collection:333 Trading Score:7	i didn't have any glitches.

12-02-2008, 07:23 AM	#37
Blu-Jawa Expert Member Member since:Dec 2007 4K collection:245 Blu-ray collection:1579 DVD collection:519 Blu-ray reviews:2	IMO the Studio's should try getting some film fans to view there master prints before making the blu-rays. I am sure there are lots of people that would be happy to see a free film and in return they would check to see that the film master looks and sounds as perfect as it can be. there would be less errors like this getting out and the studio would not have to Re-print. as for Matrix on Blu at 99 bucks it's too Expensive for a Catalog title.

12-02-2008, 07:27 AM	#38
Jeff Kleist The Digital Bits Member since:Jul 2008 Trading Score:1	This is a physical defect in the stamper, not in the compression or anything else. Manufacturing error

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