The big splash, of course, was the latest news on HD DVD. Despite ongoing discussions regarding a possible consolidation of the warring HD DVD and Blu-ray camps, Toshiba is pushing ahead. They confirmed their plans to have an HD DVD player on the market before the end of the year (about $1000), together with a substantial number of discs from several studios. An HD DVD recorder is unlikely before 2007. The final HD DVD specification is nearly complete, with no major disagreements remaining that might slow up the schedule (including the all-important Digital Rights Management). For those hoping for 1080p from HD DVD, don't hold your breath—Toshiba confirmed that the data is recorded on HD DVD in 1080i, and there are no plans to change that. The players have already been designed for 1080i discs, and it would take a redesign to enable them to handle 1080p discs, even if there were plans to produce them.
... Toshiba have already admitted that AOD/HD-DVD is a stepping stone towards Blu-ray (which has been in production in Japan for over two years). Now to emphasize the point, they offer us the deeply compromised 1080i by the end of the year when more and more 1080p displays are being launched every day, and even the Playstation Three will offer 1080p (in fact, two channels of 1080p) at a lower price early next year ... :?
It's progress, but not as we know it ... :roll:
It appears that Toshiba are planning to get marketshare at any costs (to us) by selling us short with a product launch in all local branches of "CompromiseRUs". :x
The players have already been designed for 1080i discs, and it would take a redesign to enable them to handle 1080p discs, even if there were plans to produce them.
Ouch! Must suck to be one of those HD-DVD fanboys who insist HD-DVD can compete with BD on every level and beat BD's price... but again, at what cost? :twisted:
Many of you have probably noticed that I have been conspicuously quiet and restrained on the subject of high definition DVD to this point. This has nothing to do with disinterest, of course, but more with the fact that I just wanted to see how things develop before building an opinion and making it public.
Recently I visited the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas in hopes to find out some more hard facts and up-to-date details about the two proposed formats, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. After walking the floor, seeing many of the presentations I found one of my concerns sadly reinforced. I was utterly unimpressed with HD-DVD. Seriously! You can tell from its positioning, the way it’s being bullishly promoted, etc. that HD-DVD is a format that is created to fill an artificially created demand that does not exist. Worst of all however, it looks pretty poor.
Sure, at first you look at these high definition video images and you are vowed because of their clarity and resolution. If you look a bit closer however, the images on display were riddled with compression and mastering artifacts that would make you balk if this were a DVD. And that was for the big bang promotions at CES, the single biggest show on the planet to promote these things. If that is the best they can do, I am sorry to say “Thank you, but no, thank you!”
I was utterly unimpressed with HD-DVD
If I make the transition to high definition video I expect an image that is free of artifacts as we know them today. It needs to be absolutely clear, without edge-enhancement, without ringing, without dot crawl and without pixelation. HD-DVD has yet to prove it can offer that. Toshiba’s HD-DVD presentations at last year’s CES were ridiculously bad with colors that were bleeding to no end, and this year’s concerted effort of the industry was not much better. With its limited storage capacity HD-DVD is prone to over-compression to make room for audio tracks and supplements much the way DVD is actually, it is so even more because the required storage/quality ratio is much higher. Add to that the fact that the MPEG-4 compression theme has completely different characteristics than DVD’s MPEG-2 compression and a lot of disastrous quick-shot releases are already pre-programmed.
Enter Blu-Ray. At CES I saw among others Panasonic’s demonstration of Disney’s “Aladdin” on Blu-Ray and the effect was profound. I noticed details in the image that I had never seen before, not even in the theatrical prints. The lines of the image were so fine, it was unbelievable, and best of all the image was without a hint of an artifact. Perfect color balance, perfect shadow delineation, perfect edges and rock solid colors and blacks. I noticed the same effect on other Blu-Ray presentations and clearly, this is what I am looking for. A format that not only holds the promise of the future, but fulfills it.
Blu-Ray is a format that not only holds the promise of the future, but fulfills it
Backwards compatibility.
Who cares?
The war between the two formats is on and a lot of mouthing off is going on, one side trying to best the other. A lot of arguments are flying around in the course of these heated discussions, many of which are nothing but artificial justifications for pointless issues. Case in point? Backwards compatibility for example, one of the hottest touted selling points of the HD-DVD camp. Frankly however, who cares? I have a DVD player and I don’t need a high definition player to play the same discs. Even if my DVD player should break it’s a mere $50 to replace it, but honestly, by the time it does break and needs
replacement, I probably won’t even care any more, just as I didn’t replace my last VHS player when it broke. But even if, adding a red laser to a Blu-Ray unit to make it DVD/CD compatible adds a mere 25 cents or less to the overall manufacturing costs of the unit. So, this is a ridiculously naught argument upon closer examination, especially in the light that the first models will probably retail around $1000.- anyway.
There’s also a lot of talk about the manufacturing compatibility of HD-DVD with existing replication equipment, an issue especially the studios are made to believe to be interested in. However there is also a bit of lapse in logic here. What good is this if you’ll need two or three discs to hold the same material that a single Blu-Ray disc could hold? Your cost benefit goes right out the door. Again, it is a short-sighted argument that doesn’t necessarily hold true in practice. If you’ve followed DVD as closely as I have over the past 8 years, you know that a lot of things have changed in that period of time, even in the replication field. That change won’t stop. The digital age is moving fast and it will require replicators to replace and/or upgrade their equipment one way or another, come HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. Of course the corporate suits running the studios these days don’t necessarily understand that, all they see is the superficially saved buck here or there presented to them in a nice Excel spreadsheet.
One thing you do not hear a lot of talk about on the other hand is forward compatibility. Audio formats have evolved dramatically since the inception of DVD. From the 5.1 channel Dolby Digital standard of 1997 we have now reached discrete 7.1 channel audio support in home theaters and the development will continue. The next break-through in the audio world will be full 10.2 delivery for the home theater. What do you think which format will be better suited to deliver your 10.2 dts sound track in the future? The HD-DVD format, which by its very nature strapped for storage before it even gets out of the gate, or Blu-Ray, a format that is expandable beyond anything we can currently anticipate and will grow with the demands of the delivery platforms.
Forward compatibility is what counts
These, of course are only a few random thoughts and notes on the subject. There are copy protection issues, the lackluster title announcements of the HD-DVD-supporting studios did anyone else notice that Universal is planning to launch the format with the exact same titles it kicked off DVD 8 years ago? There’s nothing like kickstarting a new format with films like “Waterworld” that no one wants to see again anyway.
Books could be filled with more detailed elaborations and parables on both formats. The point I wanted to make after all this time is that I am firmly rooting for Blu-Ray. It is the better format, plain and simple, and the format that better serves the purposes of the home entertainment industry. Of course, no one in the HD-DVD camp will agree with me as they are busy shepherding out a mediocre premature product rather than seeing it through the right way. Corporate politics, patent interests and big egos make out this battle and if things don’t change, the consumer will lose out once again. I can only hope that once studios like Warner, Universal and the rest of the lot will announce their Blu-Ray support it won’t be too late to drive the market in the right direction. And believe you me, they WILL announce Blu-Ray support, just as Sony Pictures will announce HD-DVD support. Let’s not forget that these are all publicly traded companies and the pressure from Wall Street will not allow that these entities to miss out on business opportunities and emerging markets. If you’re a public company you do as you’re told! There is no room for personal preferences in these entities, and for once in my life that makes me happy, because it will force all the format war participants to reconsider their odds at one point.
if toshiba and sony are working together to make cell then why not blu-ray? like the other guy said hd will die and from its ashes shall rise bluray[/quote]
really?
Why would they use an hd disc if they don't support hdtv?
Isn't that cost prohibitive or just plain stupid?
Mind you Nintendo hasn't released any specs so far but it's a fair assumption that they'll use regular dvd.
Enters May comes, related BD and between HD DVD unifies the topic is lingering on faintly, after experienced " Toshiba lowers the head, the specification finally unifies " pleasantly surprised, on May 15th, the people discovered the reality is that brutal - Sony and Toshiba finally all indicated, the unification hope already extremely was uncertain, only if appeared the miracle. Then, what had in this event behind? We translated in this to Toshiba numeral media network company President the cane well America England, valley clear two high level specially visited with the Sony Corporation managing director west, they respectively represented HD DVD and the BD one side viewpoint. From the center we will be able the clearer understanding both sides standpoint, and have a more explicit judgement to this form war future trend.
First, first lets us review this form merge negotiations. It is reported, at the end of February, Toshiba and Sony Corporation officially started the contact, the troop which at the beginning of March negotiated joins BD again one side firm supporter - Japan Matushita company. The negotiations initial period, both sides confirmed each other compact disc manufacture technology, after after 5 menstruation excessively short recuperation time, both sides started the application software form aspect discussion, however in the most essential physical note form technology aspect, Toshiba not could achieve consistently with Sony / Matushita, although the final report indicates that tripartite topmost story leader also acted on behalf of in the final moment to consult, but finally negotiated the defeat comes to an end.
The final negotiations in Toshiba senior vice- President concurrently Toshiba numeral media network company President west the cane well America England, the Sony managing director the valley clear, president Matushita electric appliance industry AVC network company the large open area article male between carries on, moreover Japanese economical industry province information communication machine Section Chief lucky country Xiu respects also participates among. According to the biography, this final negotiations is the preparation is unified to the BD 0.1mm protector overhead construction, but transmits finally does not receive this plan by Toshiba the finally decision comes to an end. Looks like in Toshiba, Sony and Matushita has not certainly produced the full related BD physics structure the risk rationality and the low production cost feasibility explains clearly, thus the different intention BD structure closes up.
Under, how lets us listen Sony and Toshiba's litigant is says.
Sony: Must avoid senseless resistance therefore the hope unifies
Most early contacts in the related form unification, is by Toshiba's cane well vice- President with when is appointed Sony carries out vice- President the concurrently chief operation official's long time is good woodenly is in good health February conversation starts. Both sides develop when the Cell processor in the cooperation established the close relations, at that time both sides both to thought the form unification should be Toshiba and the Sony diligently goal.
What background initially was the form unification discussion carries on under?
The cane well England America after takes office Toshiba numeral media network company President, with his good friend, also was I boss long is at that time good woodenly healthy frequently exchanges the information, the concrete discussion was the end of February, but the concrete start detail I was not clear.
It is reported, this negotiations received the outside very many pressures, for instance came from the market sound to carry on standardized on the request the unification, then Sony in participated when this negotiations what posture by appeared?
I think related or with take the royal purple laser diode as the foundation development next generation of compact disc standard, why but can split two kind of standards? The 12CM compact disc and the traditional video tape is different, the compact disc has the same physical contour, but the video tape as a result of the outer covering reason, the interchangeability very becomes the question. Struggle this form, which one side won, actually suffered injury in a big way is the consumer, certainly to was defeated one side merchant also means the huge loss. We think should avoid the senseless resistance, comes up the standard unification in the same technical specification.
In BD and HD before the DVD fission, has has not considered the standard unification importance?
Establishes in 2002 when Blu-ray the Disc founder organizes (BDF, Blu-ray Disc Fonuders), for even better promoted this technology, at that time plan is possesses Japanese main company all stands in same place. But in publishes the BD standard two years ago, Toshiba's hillside fields 尚志 is wise with the ditch mouth also all is discussing the BD form design. Becomes BDF in that time, we think each Japanese merchant metropolis in the same place. At that time, thought you could think - could not appear the senseless form struggles, this had well.
Now BDF evolved BDA, the very many manufacturers and next year initially advance BD with other correlation be employed preparations in the year's end in the PC domain application, but now already had the many BD videorecorder goes on the market. Under this kind of situation, carries on the form unification in Toshiba the negotiations is not more difficult?
Initially VHS and the Betamax competition also was so, but the video tape application scope was quite limited. Compares with it, the compact disc application scope is quite widespread, no longer only is serves for the video and music service. If the compact disc standard competes comprehensively launches, will involve to all and the compact disc correlation industry, this very the picture will be one world war. If has this possibility, we as far as possible will avoid occurring. If which company supports 0.1mm the structure, and the hope joins BDA becomes the friend, I think we are the welcome.
Sony: Negotiations not wonderful both sides are certainly serious in the compact disc use aspect difference
What the BDA member enterprise and its does the correlation OEM partner have to this negotiations responds?
If thoroughly understands 0.1mm the plate piece structure, even if is the brand-new specification also may advance, why but this also is had that many the merchant joins BDA the reason. The 0.1mm structure is greets the high picture nature time, satisfies the compact disc must the capacity the only choice, therefore the best plan is unifies the compact disc in this foundation the standard. And, we carried on the long time accumulation in in the BD technology development, this also strengthened our determination.
When the Toshiba aspect in speaks of the reason which the negotiations bursts, thinks 0.6mm has superiority in present stage, thus persists oneself the design, as for the 0.1mm large capacity superiority, distributed in the market regarding it in the prefabrication the necessity proposes the question. But the production aspect which high delivers in the ROM compact disc low cost, Sony and Matushita also does not have to be able to put out the persuasive data. Regarding this, Sony has what view?
I think, takes we, already provides full data and material helps opposite party to understand, but gives the data also determines cannot let Toshiba completely satisfy. But, I think the now should consider is this technology may continue the development in 10 year inside, certainly cannot the thing which already existed with the now compare. For instance, we with SINGULUS the cooperation development BD-ROM production line are the brand-new products, it obtained arrives the data is this, cannot compare with the existing DVD production data.
You also know Toshiba also is engaged in the 0.1mm structure development, and pointed out difficulty, but its attention to the 0.6mm structure was because it suited to the video and music release domain, was this in this discussion argues the biggest place?
In technical theory discussion final, often is the ROM compact disc duplication cost question, but the compact disc now certainly not merely is uses in the video and music release, the videorecorder, the camera as well as the PC software application also is the important domain, therefore the next generation of compact disc and not only distributes for the program exists. Can the key lies in the capacity which provides satisfy various aspects the need, in this aspect simple say, capacity greatly even better somewhat.
On the other hand, for instance in the sports broadcast, the data broadcast code rate which uses from world each place looks, if uses the low code rate video recording, cannot satisfy the request which the high picture nature video frequency flows. Therefore, although the program release is in the compact disc industry the very important one domain, but if only discusses by this part, the form standard obviously cannot unify.
I believe can embark facing the next generation of compact disc standard unification enterprise from the compact disc industry overall situation, might with Toshiba in in the related video recording application aspect discussion, many times turn " to the hard disk will expend the electronic domain in the future the application prospect " the discussion. Certainly, we do not deny the hard disk the importance, but between the hard disk and the compact disc certainly is not exclusive, respectively has the domain which respectively excels, how uses should decide by the market.
Is not may like this say, the negotiations already completely burst?
Actually, any company hasn't made the unilaterally withdrawal the decision, but on May 15th negotiates bursts is the fact, if the cane well morning transmits in 16th the hope continuation tries hard achieves the unification the idea is real, then the future also will have the possibility returns the conference table to come up, certainly, if will not be able to achieve the unification in the 0.1mm question, I will want to continue the opportunity which will discuss am very young.
The BDA member congress convenes in 16, the BDA council convenes in 18, how then is explains to the attending member?
We sketchily transmit the present Sony in the unification form aspect standpoint, after was carries on the corresponding product development time limit discussion, in brief the result still was about BD itself, certainly did not have too to involve other matters. Because the BDA member continuously all mutually is discussing, after but this negotiations, everybody genuine makes the BD corresponding service. Moreover, in the member, negotiates from 15 after Toshiba bursts, the related BD negative surface appraisal as well as other correlations report all knows connected in parallel fashion, but also had not felt had repels this result the phenomenon. But, future if will realize the form is unified, poured has the possibility can have some members acts on behalf of to refute the unified result.
In Toshiba aspect, report indicates that if must continue to negotiate only if take the 0.6mm structure as the premise, also the report indicates that, certainly does not remove 0.1mm the possibility, for person's feeling 0.6mm standpoint certainly is not very firm. But the cane well looks the principle is " because the 0.1mm structure is irrational, 0.6mm only then is the correct path ", how then Sony in the future standard aspect manner again will be?
Because one primitive story edition is possibly uses the 0.1mm structure unifies the form, if Toshiba like this did, will be able to have the possibility faces this on the one hand carries on the unification. But now, if will develop according to the 0.6mm structure extremely is difficult. The compact disc capacity which the next generation of compact disc standard cannot which existing already go on the market the videorecorder uses is also smaller than, if had to unify form, it had the great ability is more right.
Our manner is implements according to this plan, because the form unification negotiations already was completed, then our manner was along a prescribed path implements our original product plan. Certainly, in this month, the BDA interior also has in the standard argument. But, this kind of internal dialogue finally will impel the BD form the development, and will improve the BD product way.
Once more carries on the unification form the consultation also has the possibility?
Participates in BDA the content provides the business, is in 2006 distributes the BD program carries on the preparation, what big change if has, said quite urgently from the time angle. But the unification form negotiations front door absolutely should not close, but again carries on the negotiations the possibility extremely is also difficult to say.
Toshiba: The negotiations certainly was not completely bursts open break off but the rumor injures us
As next generation of compact disc standard unification negotiations HD the DVD camp's representative, Toshiba's manner always makes the one pay attention to. Is responsible Toshiba numeral media network company develops president which HD DVD cane well America England, with when was appointed Sony carries out vice- President the concurrently chief operation official's long time is good woodenly is in good health the cooperation developed when the Cell processor establishes the close relations. But also is precisely as a result of this relations, opened the unification form negotiations overture in the end of February, provided the turning point for it after 3 sides official consultation.
But, the unified form negotiations is completed in May 18th, and remains for the common people by " bursts open break off " the impression. But initially was reported, displayed the positive manner and the advancement to the 0.1mm structure mutually yields to realize form unification Toshiba becomes lead. According to what is stated, in May 9th after Sony western Sichuan technology center convention conference on May 10th, Toshiba rapidly overruled by the 0.1mm specification unification proposal.
Toshiba's viewpoint certainly is the 0.6mm structure which uses by HD DVD for the negotiations foundation, and thinks the 0.1mm structure the plate piece is produces with difficulty. The Toshiba aspect as soon as starts to be responsible to negotiate is HD the DVD enterprise advances the room long assists the cane abundantly governs, after he expresses " the compact disc sells one year, the duplication end product rate will be able to be basic may solve, but the BD camp will resemble in this aspect work does not have the progress ".
What but, is thought-provoking, BD and HD the DVD two big camps' is not certainly same in next generation of compact disc standard objective points and the technical aspect opinion, this in the the beginning of negotiations should be clear, if does not have the compact disc structure unification the premise, the negotiations originally should not start. Why then Toshiba can the rapid change standpoint? Is stems from the comprehensive technical aspect consideration or the commercial aspect appraisal?
Under lets us have a look Toshiba's in this time unification standard negotiations viewpoint!
The May 15th final negotiations is defeated comes to an end, then can chat the view as the Toshiba one side representative?
Like such negotiations, is under the direct formidable influence not merely is the related enterprise, more importantly final user. Just therefore so, needs the extremely excellent judgement and the fine negotiations. But the standard unification negotiations certainly does not have completely to burst open break off, I certainly do not want to refer to detail in this, moreover some matters also do not allow in now this matter to publish.
It is said, Toshiba permits to the 0.1mm structure change, decides as this structure the foundation makes a final decision the unification specification, but finally in most approached achieved when the result appears the result which burst open break off. Resembles impression which one kind of Toshiba unilaterally rejects for the person.
This information who is spread? Through consultative earnest solution unification form question time, the related content publishes in the newspaper, moreover is not completely real, in which has the obvious intention the rumour, this aligns the negotiations which carries on is one kind of serious setback, it enables both sides no longer to trust.
The negotiations turning point is produces from and yours old friend long good wooden healthy conversation?
The earliest contact was in last year autumn, initiated by the Sony one side, both sides carried on the various discussion, but did not have the idea union. Hereafter, indeed carries on the off and on dialogue. I am very good with the long good wooden healthy personal relations, we carry on the exchange by each way, this certainly includes the topic which the next generation of compact disc unifies.
In the initial conversation, we have not involved 0.1mm and the 0.6mm structure question which said to the report in. But, in 不正式 the chat, mentioned if were possible, came the conformity both sides technology by the 0.1mm structure, but this all was chatted when talks about, certainly was not the official discussion. In February, Sony indicates has the possibility changes 0.1mm the overhead construction, thus started between the high-level superintendent's negotiations.
Although reports said is I on own initiative starts to seek consultation, but is recognizes the Sony one side initiative in the official situation, but afterwards because must realize form unification to Matushita company, therefore finally became the tripartite negotiations.
Toshiba advances HD DVD the reason basically is the 0.6mm plate piece structure, but must make change in this aspect means overthrew formerly own judgment, then Toshiba in the unification compact disc standard time, talked about when this question (had possibility speech, closed up like the 0.1mm structure) purports He Zai?
I think this was at that time converses the time expression, manifested to the detail partial understanding difference. We transmitted if 0.1mm were one good choice, we could not pull pull to the basic structure question. But in the tripartite negotiations, three basic principles also established.
Because is three main big companies is discussing, the sole standard should establish, because cannot puzzle by some tiny patent questions. But three companies respective benefits possibly guarantee, because user's benefit has the highest priority. If 3 companies can unite together share the pain, then this standard will have the possibility establishes. These three principles are the major premises.
Although so, although we expect can provide one best form standard, but the compact disc physical structure is different. Thus enables the true negotiations to start, therefore first must do is carries on examination to 0.1mm structure.
If 0.1mm cannot accept, then the 0.6mm structure also should carry on the discussion. But is not the negotiations which starts because of the 0.1mm structure?
I a moment ago said am the 0.1mm structure question, but negotiated has not involved the 0.6mm structure also is the fact, but carried on take the 0.1mm structure as the foundation negotiates my one has not also heard.
We also talked about if could realize the large capacity topic in the 0.6mm foundation through the multilayered technology, this will manifest 0.6mm the superiority. Although this manifested the expense first idea, but if as soon as started to determine take the 0.1mm structure as the foundation, then this plan also could not mention. But considers before the unification negotiations three principles, receive discuss 0.6mm the plan, takes negotiations order should be again normal only.
Toshiba made firmly supports the 0.6mm structure like this decides, was not after the technical discussion but is the judgement which made from the management angle, now looks like, the 0.6mm superiority still did not have the change?
The 0.6mm plan is only to the existing DVD industry best choice, although so, still could not easy obtain the profit. Does not have the benefit the competition, expends the benefit will also lose abandons. The idea transformation appears in in this January, because here has one very general knowledge question, similarly was in the BD camp's some enterprises already passes through 3 years course in the BD development.
On the other hand, the BD one side thinks some need large capacity compact discs applications will be able to appear in the future several years, but they will not certainly have produced this kind of development blueprint, but only will be the emphasis has the large capacity this necessity. Moreover Sony also indicates, the low cost BD-ROM batch production line soon realizes, but is connected the confirmation data as a result of postpones but cannot provide. Although Sony declares may realize by DVD-ROM suitable cost production BD-ROM, but the end product rate had not still achieved a higher level, moreover their compact disc factory did not allow to carry on the stochastic sample survey.
Comes appraisal group which composes from Sony and the Matushita company horizontal extremely good technical personnel, vigorously is proving BD to the common people may the inexpensive manufacture, but says regarding the good Lai shipyard work room, they do not have the persuasive evidence to let the Lai shipyard the opinion achieve consistently.
Toshiba: HD DVD basically take one-sided double-decked 30GB as the focus
The good Lai shipyard work room also hopes the compact disc form can unify, if they all use one kind of form, the field standard also along with it establishment, why that " the 0.1mm form always is finding the Lai shipyard work room understands their data ", has what necessity?
After I take office Toshiba media network company's President, to the good Lai shipyard manner is, does not have the question with 0.6mm, with 0.1mm also may. But we used 0.6mm the structure to provide such technology, how elected by you to support. Although has the many kinds of rumor, but in fact, we let Lai shipyard work room own take the idea. Therefore, may think was the merchant chooses HD DVD. Also therefore, 2005 greatly unfolds in this January CES, chooses and supports HD DVD the good Lai shipyard work room gathers at the same place, and held the grand promoted activity.
These good Lai shipyard work room, at present all has the huge DVD service, but the movie distributes this also is the compact disc application biggest domain, only if has the special reason, otherwise the work room manner does not have the reason to change changes, regarding supports 0.6mm the merchant says, also truly has not chosen 0.1mm the necessity.
The compact disc use and the goal customer, or said is the product difference, also has the very many different viewpoints inside the negotiations, for instance Toshiba own has not grasped the camera service, but BD aspect then regards as this is one key point.
The bilateral is different at correlation enterprise idea, can intensely feel in the the beginning of negotiations. Grasps the type camera service regarding Matushita and Sony says is very important, but we also certainly are not have not all thought, only is the idea is different.
Toshiba has three kind of memories media, separately is dodges saves, the hard disk and the compact disc, is nimble by the appropriate media should to the appropriate application, this is we " most suits " the strategic concept. Do I have to do one only have network function and compact disc equipment should to all demands? We think the compact disc the use mainly is preserves the video and music program, likes the photo album same. If this photo album is sincere, if it surpassed the content demand scope, will inconvenience to use.
But, the existing digital broadcast program compact disc does not carry on in 15GB HD on the DVD two hours engraves record. First no matter BD one-sided double-decked 50G, as well as from now on will be going to realize the 100GB/200GB capacity, the list speaking of 15GB HD DVD, even if the cost will occupy superiorly, but the capacity was not also small?
Double-decked HD DVD-R will be able to achieve 30GB the capacity, this capacity will be able to guarantee will transcribe 3 hours broadcast programs. Like this was allowed to fill the very many applications blank. The long time sports video recording is the consumer application one model, but we recommend the method is uses hundred large capacity hard disks. Sony and Matushita then all plans the long time sports broadcast also transcribes the compact disc, thus thinks the large capacity compact disc is essential, but this procedure (uses compact disc but is not hard disk video recording long time sports program) real is appropriate?
If above says, if does not limit to the technical discussion, but from the commercial angle judgement, embarks from the expense priority angle, can't reach the agreement?
Theoretically is this, I am earnest stemming from the unification form consideration, accepts the Toshiba group plenary powers appoints, revolves the right question and opposite party launches the subtle negotiations.
But, appeared the news which front said divulges the event, moreover said from the content also includes to the Toshiba disadvantageous wrong report although on roughly approached the fact. If is not divulge which certain merchants intends, this aspect information cannot report, but such event continuously appeared two, this had no alternative but to let the person feel the suspicion.
Reports emphasizes we agreed 0.1mm had the structure plan, and gave the field, together advanced HD in particular the DVD standard other merchant one kind of Toshiba the confidence has the vacillation feeling in the 0.6mm structure. But in fact, we always do not have the concessions in this point. Our some partners support two kind of forms, and also joined BDA. But negotiates the period appears the event which the news divulges lets us feel the regret, but the result is does not have one side to occupy cheaply because of these reports.
But, the detail which bursts about the negotiations I certainly does not want to say in here, otherwise again will be struggle one argument. In here, I care about am the counter- monopoly laws and regulations. First, the fact is must need to carry on the discussion by the 0.1mm structure as the unification consultation premise. But, when some authors report " agree when the 0.1mm overhead construction, the realization unification form " appears, had the question. Why can agree the 0.1mm structure? Is this embarks from the expense benefit? Its meaning resembles is says, the not full discussion on achieved in the 0.1mm aspect is consistent.
In the report points out we pass through the unification standard conference consult make the unconditional compromise, we must complete give the denial in this point. We once more emphasize, we do not have the plan to agree 0.1mm the structure, and I also must reiterate, if wants to let us change the standpoint in this question, needs to continue to provide the related 0.1mm rationalization the information.
Toshiba: The summary past will forecast HD DVD future
It is reported, when 15 final negotiations, Toshiba HD the DVD enterprise advanced the room long assists the cane abundantly governs also participates the technical partial discussion, but the bilateral difference was very big, then in in the unification form negotiations, Toshiba has carried out own correlation intention?
Front already said, I post village there accepted the compact disc standard unification negotiations plenary powers from Toshiba President appoint, as for assisted the cane room is long is is responsible concrete HD the DVD development business. He from advanced HD DVD the angle publishes to the BD negative opinion, but negotiated the dialogue window was I, assisted the cane is the technical appraisal aspect brain trust.
In the negotiations process, we also published 45GB HD the DVD compact disc standard, but that was the Toshiba compact disc enterprise department is advancing HD the DVD aspect the endeavor. With ours negotiations is mutually independent, after accepts plenary powers appoints, I continuously in the advancement unification form negotiations, I think Toshiba itself has not certainly appeared the contradiction in this question.
Moreover, outside this negotiations looks like is the highest-level other dialogue, but I am plenary powers am appointed to carry on the negotiations, therefore does not think this is in the higher level consultation. If the rank very high political opinion is necessary, then on is very difficult to produce one correct judgement. But this situation certainly does not exist in the negotiations, in unifies in this question, if I at that time agreed, possibly could become the reality, but existing still had no change.
In the negotiations, resembled also mentions and Microsoft's cooperation relations. But Microsoft at present and Sony launched the under resistance in the game machine domain. But recently Toshiba and did Microsoft achieve the patent overlapping authorization consultation, what this point has to this negotiations in affects? In Raymond (Microsoft's headquarters locus), resembles the instruction correlation performer promotes Windows Media and HD DVD.
Although we may be very easy to brief the related situation to opposite party, but we not like this do, has not certainly referred to in the negotiations with Microsoft's cooperation, anything therefore hasn't produced to this negotiations affects.
Some news point out Toshiba has not admitted the unification form the plan, is because of the legal aspect risk, as well as with between LSI chip group supplier as well as product partner contract question, but Toshiba also therefore pays attention to to the counter- monopoly aspect laws and regulations, is this?
First must explain, what type certainly does not have between the friendly Lai shipyard work room to have the contract, is they uses oneself the judgement to choose HD DVD. This gives us the media network company very intense self-confidence, because this is the good Lai shipyard work room own choice. These differently to the counter- monopoly laws and regulations question, the counter- monopoly laws and regulations continuously is I pays attention to.
It is reported, Sony and Matushita in the patent combination aspect, made reluctantly has the condition the concessions by, hoped and Toshiba achieves reconciliation. Then if does not have the question speech in the counter- monopoly aspect, Toshiba can make the concessions realizes the unification?
If counter- monopoly laws and regulations any limit, I also have not been one specialized commercial negotiations personnel (cane well when in takes the post of Toshiba semiconductor vice- President, once acted on behalf of to solve SanDisk and between the Sony /IBM cooperation question, and was responsible for this alliance operation). If Toshiba unilaterally undertakes the loss, then has the possibility reaches the agreement. But in counter- monopoly aspect, if to the 0.1mm compromise, Toshiba can face the huge risk. This should not be three companies unites together together consults solves the question prerequisite, therefore east one side cannot comply.
Can summarize the main reason which this negotiations bursts open break off?
Was real bursts open break off, but also was very difficult to say. Until today, I think certainly does not have so-called completely to burst open break off. On the present stage, the reason which related bursts open break off very difficultly says with one speech clearly.
The first reason, we cannot understand the 0.1mm structure compared to a 0.6mm more splendid reason.
Next is the compact disc cost, because I for a long time am engaged in the semiconductor service, therefore I know the correlation the manufacture craft can be mature along with the time. I agree in center is unconsciously good rate enhances to the very good level. I certainly do not think because is the 0.1mm structure, therefore the later production cost still will be able to be very high. But the key lies in, when only then can achieve one reasonable cost level? Obviously, now certainly does not have to be able to let the biggest ROM compact disc producer - good Lai shipyard work room feel the belief the data.
Drives the aspect in the thin light, the BD aspect to say can make makes the 9.5mm thick light drives. But, our goal is produces the 7mm thick ultra thin notebook computer uses up drives. Because the BD light drives to have to have to have the spherical aberration 补偿电路, I consider sends out the similar product is impossible. Moreover, carries the equipment in the vehicle does the vibration aspect, the BD aspect says also is may realize, but now already did not have the time from to include the technical background eliminates people's suspicion in the inside many aspects.
Finally is in the videorecorder aspect, we entrust with a hard disk higher status. Take Toshiba's standpoint, is by the hard disk as the focus, attaches by the memory and the compact disc coordinate use, but in view of the fact that the hard disk capacity 提升速度, from now on inside 15 years the hard disk could be the application lead.
If the standard finally splits, the bilateral product respectively goes on the market, can describe HD the DVD one side becomes in fact the standard tentative plan?
First I think DVD the enterprise still was growing, and obtained the widespread use in the movie profession. The DVD packing program sells the whole world, but the movie industrial used fair judgement observation can discover HD DVD will be one good choice. But said regarding the household electrical appliances product manufacturer, one the best logic which is regarded as by the engineer very difficultly is possibly understood by the person, that is the good Lai shipyard uses plants that kind of technology, which kind of product do you provide.
Based on such understanding, the good Lai shipyard and the expense electron merchant also will divide into two camps, will be very possible to be able to launch the video compact disk machine in North America and the program compact disc sales war. But regarding us, HD the DVD video compact disk machine plan can go on the market in 9-10 month, thus obtains in the market the priority, coordinates corresponding HD the DVD program compact disc, enables each expense people all to realize takes the lead to HD DVD to arrive, then promotes it.
Next, we can strengthen our RD series hard disk videorecorder edition function, for instance the procedure recommendation function and so on maintains the primary user use. But in this year in August, we can submit double-decked HD to the DVD discussion forum the DVD-R compact disc the standard proposal, into official standard standard. The estimate will issue support double-decked HD in next year in March the DVD-R compact disc the videorecorder. According to ours judgement, estimates -R engraves record scrutinizes has a bigger leading superiority regarding the BD-R cost, we inexpensive will provide double-decked HD the DVD-R compact disc meet the needs carry on file away preserved the videorecorder user as well as the PC user's demand.
Third will be fair, the irrational form unification harms consumer's benefit. I completely do not understand they rigidly adhere to the 0.1mm structure reason. Their mistake lies in rigidly adheres but is not rigidly adheres in 0.1mm structure itself to user's demand. Because of this, I said I cannot put with emphasis above 0.1mm, here only has 3 hours and 5 hours video recording time difference. But considers the majority user the service condition, BD really is essential?
While Toshiba offers an extensive line of DVD players and recorders plus a plethora of combination TV/DVD, TV/VCR, and Tri-Play (TV/DVD/VCR) models, the big news in video was HD DVD. Their first player will be available in November and priced under $1,000. It will feature HD DVD, DVD, and CD playback in either true 720p or 1080i resolution. The model will include HDMI and IEEE1394 output along with Internet connectivity and front USB ports. The HD DVD player will also feature Dolby Digital and DTS HD 5.1 decoding capability. At launch, there will be approximately 89 titles available from Warner Home Video including HBO Films & NewLine (53), Paramount (20), and Universal (15). There will be mix of new releases (such as Batman Begins and The Phantom of the Opera) and catalog titles (such as M.I.2 and The Sopranos). There will also be two types of discs available at launch: a standard HD DVD and a Hybrid Disc. The Hybrid Disc will have an HD DVD version of a movie on one side of the disc, and a standard definition (480p) version of the film on the other side. Catalog titles may come out in HD DVD-only versions, as there is already a standard definition version available. New releases, on the other hand, might only be released on a Hybrid Disc, as anyone with a DVD player could playback the movie.
At first I thought the lack of 1080p would be to HD-DVD's detriment but being that none of the newer 1080p TVs accept the progressive signal I doubt this issue will hurt HD-DVD sales at all. At least for now, until TVs that will accept 1080p signals are readily available and priced comparable to current hot HDTV sellers.
At first I thought the lack of 1080p would be to HD-DVD's detriment but being that none of the newer 1080p TVs accept the progressive signal I doubt this issue will hurt HD-DVD sales at all. At least for now, until TVs that will accept 1080p signals are readily available and priced comparable to current hot HDTV sellers.
Yes, that's correct up to a point. If the prices for the players/recorders are similar and especially with playstation 3 introduction they could be relatively low, most consumers will go with a more advanced technology .
I also see it somewhat of a vicious circle and unless someone steps up, we will have a very slow adoption of hdtv. That is, manufacturers are probably skipping on costs for 1080p because they may rationalize that there are no 1080p sources anyway and are thus not needed and content providers are skipping on it too because no one can really view it on their sets. That's why I think having 1080p sources and soon is very important. Now if as expected , most content on blu ray is encoded at 1080p that could be the driving force for CE's to expand into the 1080p market since there is really nothing else that can drive it since broadcast tv is far away from achieving that. If there are no 1080p sources, how can manufacturers sell 1080p sets and why would people buy them anyway? This is the first step toward hdtv. I think very soon market will be flooded with 720p and 1080i or lower and 1080p will be the next big thing.
BTW I would really love to read about technical aspects of what it takes for 1080p to transmit on tv sets. Mainly inputs/outputs and bandwidth ans such.
Yes, that's correct up to a point. If the prices for the players/recorders are similar and especially with playstation 3 introduction they could be relatively low, most consumers will go with a more advanced technology .
Yep, that's great for the Blu-Ray that the PS3 will be the best video game console ever ! And the price of the player will be lower than a non-console one
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