768p vs 1080p

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by ricky tee78

couple of thoughts....

it's useless saying "768p", its 720p. The only time you will see those extra 48 lines of resolution is with an analog signal from a computer.

Sorry, but the resolution of those sets are 768 lines. A 720p signal will be scaled to the set's native resolution of 768 lines (same with sending a 1080i/p signal). It's no different than a 720p signal being scaled to fit 1080 lines on a 1080p set. Are you saying that you will only see 720 lines on a 1080p set? Where are these extra lines dissappearing to? My understanding of the whole process.

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by ricky tee78

couple of thoughts....

it's useless saying "768p", its 720p. The only time you will see those extra 48 lines of resolution is with an analog signal from a computer.

also, 1080i is a useless statement. a 720p tv has max resolution of 768 vertical lines. You're not going to grow over 300 lines of resolution like some kind of miracle. if you set a 720p TV to 1080i, all your doing is watching in 720i.

theres only a few tv's that can do 1080i (other then 1080p TV's of course) and those are some Hitachi's...

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Now back to your question. Insignia is a garbage television. If you go to Best Buy and talk to a salesmen about them, they will feed you this retail story of how Insignia is made by LG. Well a slight reality check for everyone... LG provides the parts for roughly 60% of all flat panel TV's on the market. (the only TV's I know of to NOT be made with LG parts are Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, and Pioneer, and oddly enough, they are regarded to be the best 4 TV's on the market).

My personal opinion on what TV someone should get, Samsung LCD's slightly better then Sony and are also cheaper. Plasma's, Panasonic's are pretty close if not even with Pioneer's, and are alot cheaper.

Rick ,off this topic i have a question for you.(oh buy the way i new all about the LG thing )

I have my player ,and reciever set to 1080i.I love my picture. So you think i would benefit if i changed it to 720p .

I have read a lot on this (maybe too much) and after a while it does get confusing . specially when you get to reviewers saying two different things

I really don't know if there is a big difference.
I believe i have everything setup right but i would appreciate you thoughts

Oh,the 720i thing,where did you get that from?

[BIslander]

Originally Posted by ricky tee78

it's useless saying "768p", its 720p. The only time you will see those extra 48 lines of resolution is with an analog signal from a computer.

also, 1080i is a useless statement. a 720p tv has max resolution of 768 vertical lines. You're not going to grow over 300 lines of resolution like some kind of miracle.

If you send 720 to a 768 set, it has to interpolate to fill the extra 48 lines. In your words, it has to grow the missing lines.

If you send 1080 to a 768 set, it downscales. That's the better way to go.

if you set a 720p TV to 1080i, all your doing is watching in 720i.

Care to explain that? There's such thing as 720i. If you send 1080i to a fixed pixel display, it will deinterlace to 1080p and then downscale to 768p.

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by ckent22

You're wrong about this. It depends on the source material. 720p and 1080p Televisions both offer advantages and disadvantages, but it all depends o the source material. And if it's HD source material it will look better on the Insignia.

So the fact that a 768p Pany (could have been a Pioneer, as I don't have the link) beat-out most of the 1080p competitors in a head-to-head shoot out means absolutely nothing to you? I hope dobyblue chimes-in with the links to confirm this to you. The simple fact is you are mistaken in your understanding. Resolution is only a part of the overall quality of the picture, and if you truly believe that a 1080p crap-brand will have a better picture than a top-brand 768p Pany, well, I suppose you are entitled to your opinion. And opinion is exactly what it is, as you have no basis behind your statement.

Originally Posted by ckent22

Well obviously. Samsungs are arguably the best HDTVs on the market. But, not a 768p Panasonic compared to a 1080p Insignia.

Arguably by whom? You? Again, you are entitled to your opinion, but you need to stop making statements of fact that are not so. It only confuses those trying to make informed decisions.

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by BIslander

If you send 720 to a 768 set, it has to interpolate to fill the extra 48 lines. In your words, it has to grow the missing lines.

If you send 1080 to a 768 set, it downscales. That's the better way to go.

Care to explain that? There's such thing as 720i. If you send 1080i to a fixed pixel display, it will deinterlace to 1080p and then downscale to 768p.

Exactly. And I can't believe I totally missed the 720i statement. He completely misunderstands the whole process.

[ozzman]

Ricshoe,

I really liked how you brought up the whole thing about Samsung being the Best.I had a problem with that.I personally think it's Pioneer But thats my opinion.

It's people throwing out opinions and trying to pawn them off as facts Which leads to a lazy thread of nothingness.

One's truth isn't truth until there's facts and back up info

[ckent22]

Originally Posted by ozzman

When i had that Insignia it was new out of the box.The blacks weren't black there were dark grey and belive me i tried to work the contrast and brightness with color.

It was terrible.It was a nightmare.I could not make this TV look half decent.
The color blew on it.
Its not worth buying.You can do much better.unless you know something i don't know with this TV.I believe Insignia TV's are for people that don't no any better!

Have you sampled one in your Home or are you just saying this because it's a 1080p .
Iam not trying to be sarcastic,Truley I just want to understand where your coming from ?

Once again it depends on the source material. What kind of source material was it? Was it a Hi Def source material or standard, because if it was standard then all bets are off.

[ckent22]

[QUOTE=Ricshoe;1483282]So the fact that a 768p Pany (could have been a Pioneer, as I don't have the link) beat-out most of the 1080p competitors in a head-to-head shoot out means absolutely nothing to you? I hope dobyblue chimes-in with the links to confirm this to you. The simple fact is you are mistaken in your understanding. Resolution is only a part of the overall quality of the picture, and if you truly believe that a 1080p crap-brand will have a better picture than a top-brand 768p Pany, well, I suppose you are entitled to your opinion. And opinion is exactly what it is, as you have no basis behind your statement.



And who is this according to? And once again can you stop using this 768p crap. Just say 720p. Actually it depends on the source material for the upteenth time.
You believe that Panasonic makes better televisions than Samsung? If you do, then that's pretty sad.

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by ckent22

Once again it depends on the source material. What kind of source material was it? Was it a Hi Def source material or standard, because if it was standard then all bets are off.

HD Cable and Blu-ray ? You really think i would screw with standard cable To get the best picture with a Plasma. I wasn't born yesterday

[ckent22]

Originally Posted by ozzman

HD Cable and Blu-ray ? You really think i would screw with standard cable To get the best picture

Okay well this is your opinion. And we can get into arguing about opinions all we want to. But if your set into buying a 720 Panasonic then by all means go for it.

[ozzman]

[QUOTE=ckent22;1483359]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

So the fact that a 768p Pany (could have been a Pioneer, as I don't have the link) beat-out most of the 1080p competitors in a head-to-head shoot out means absolutely nothing to you? I hope dobyblue chimes-in with the links to confirm this to you. The simple fact is you are mistaken in your understanding. Resolution is only a part of the overall quality of the picture, and if you truly believe that a 1080p crap-brand will have a better picture than a top-brand 768p Pany, well, I suppose you are entitled to your opinion. And opinion is exactly what it is, as you have no basis behind your statement.



And who is this according to? And once again can you stop using this 768p crap. Just say 720p. Actually it depends on the source material for the upteenth time.
You believe that Panasonic makes better televisions than Samsung? If you do, then that's pretty sad.

Brother,Iam starting to belive you really don't know what your talking about

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by ckent22

Okay well this is your opinion. And we can get into arguing about opinions all we want to. But if your set into buying a 720 Panasonic then by all means go for it.

If your sold on Crap while thats good for you but try t to convince new members of your truth with no facts behind them

[kpkelley]

Here is the oft mentioned HDTV Faceoff where a 768P Pioneer Plasma set beat out all other competitors:

Link

It is a 768P set, not a 720P set. The native resolution is what it is regardless of the source information. 1376x768 is not 1280x720.

[ckent22]

Originally Posted by ozzman

If your sold on Crap while thats good for you but try t to convince new members of your truth with no facts behind them

Look at my home theatre set up. You think I buy crap?

[ozzman]

I think i should make this point

Iam not down on people that buy Insignia TVs.Some people can't afford to drop money and are on a budget.I understand that.
Having a HD TV is awesome.Iam not down on anyone purchasing any type of equipment.

But when someone has a choice and asks on this forum about picking A or B i belive its up to us to help steer him in the right direction.
Not to give him false info on peoples beliefs.Talk is cheap just like some TV's out there

[ckent22]

[QUOTE=ozzman;1483381]

Originally Posted by ckent22

Brother,Iam starting to belive you really don't know what your talking about

Well, excuse me if I don't want to buy a 768 Panasonic. Yeah, actually I do know what I'm talking about.

Stop calling me brother.

But, I'm much happier with my Sony. Thank you very much.

[ozzman]

Originally Posted by ckent22

Look at my home theatre set up. You think I buy crap?

You know exactly what i meant.Selling a new member on a cheap TV when he has a choice.
You don't like people disagreeing with you that's fine.
You want to make this a personal attack on you then you hold on to it tight and don`t let go.That,s your problem

[ckent22]

Originally Posted by ozzman

You know exactly what i meant.Selling a new member on a cheap TV when he has a choice.
You don't like people disagreeing with you that's fine.
You want to make this a personal attack on you then you hold on to it tight and don`t let go.

You're the one telling me I don't know what I'm talking about. Is that a personal attack? Sounds like it.

I've seen plenty of Panasonic televisions and I would personally never spend money on them. That's just me. If you or anyone else would like to then by all means go for it.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by ckent22

You're wrong about this. It depends on the source material. 720p and 1080p Televisions both offer advantages and disadvantages, but it all depends o the source material. And if it's HD source material it will look better on the Insignia.

That is total rubbish.

http://hometheatermag.com/lcds/208hdface/

Read through the 2008 HDTV face off, look at the brands they're testing...all well respected TV's and technologies.

7 HDTV's, 6 1080p's and 1 768p. Which one won? The 768p.

The defense rests.

Resolution is roughly the 4th most important feature of a set when you're shopping. To make a blind statement that it's the most important consideration for getting the most out of Blu-ray is totally inaccurate.

Motion resolution and contrast are far more important than panel resolution.

[ozzman]

Read the whole page if you want to learn more about Insignia,The review is down a little bit

http://i.gizmodo.com/5108151/cheap-h...sets-under-900