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Old 01-30-2009, 03:21 PM   #21
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spikes on a coin is the way to go... For my sub I use Black Diamond Racing Pucks with cones
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:13 PM   #22
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spikes on a coin is the way to go... For my sub I use Black Diamond Racing Pucks with cones
So spikes will sound clearer than rubber feet? As at the moment my monitor audio speakers have the plastic feet with rubber stoppers on the bottom. The only difference when adding spikes is they screw into them.
But can I ask what benefit these pennies under the feet will have? Aside from them looking like an eyesore.

This is starting to sound like taking a brand new Lamborghini and putting it on bricks in your drive way!

Also, should all speakers be on spikes, even rear speakers on a tower?

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Old 01-30-2009, 06:20 PM   #23
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A spike will not cause as much vibration on the floor because there is less surface area grounding the speaker, and no pennies will not hurt the sound it will just protect your floor, but if you don't like pennies you can buy spike pads for around $2 each

check out the spikes and pads here.

http://www.oregondv.com/spikes.htm

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Old 01-30-2009, 08:10 PM   #24
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This thread has finally gotten me off my lazy butt, and I putt my spikes on my stands..... now that they're on, do they sound any different????? NOPE.... but then again, I haven't turned on the stereo yet
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Old 01-30-2009, 08:19 PM   #25
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This thread has finally gotten me off my lazy butt, and I putt my spikes on my stands..... now that they're on, do they sound any different????? NOPE.... but then again, I haven't turned on the stereo yet
Spikes on stands won't do much. The stands have to be on the spikes in order to function properly.
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Old 01-30-2009, 08:19 PM   #26
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So spikes will sound clearer than rubber feet? As at the moment my monitor audio speakers have the plastic feet with rubber stoppers on the bottom. The only difference when adding spikes is they screw into them.
But can I ask what benefit these pennies under the feet will have? Aside from them looking like an eyesore.

This is starting to sound like taking a brand new Lamborghini and putting it on bricks in your drive way!

Also, should all speakers be on spikes, even rear speakers on a tower?
As I had suggested in my previous post, the items below will replace and will give better neutralizing benefits than spikes (they will raise your speaker cabinets and will not be visible):

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Consider using these in different sizes from Herbie's (you normally only need 3 per speaker, but you could use 4):



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Both can be found on this link:

http://herbiesaudiolab.home.att.net/bigfat.htm

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Old 01-30-2009, 08:21 PM   #27
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This thread has finally gotten me off my lazy butt, and I putt my spikes on my stands..... now that they're on, do they sound any different????? NOPE.... but then again, I haven't turned on the stereo yet
If you need help with that, let us know!
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Old 01-30-2009, 08:25 PM   #28
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i've read that those pads dampen the sound as opposed to spikes. Same thing with the rubber feet. I don't know which is ture as there is alot of conflicting information out there on what is best and what is worse.

I guess everyone has their own preference of which works best. Pads, rubber feet, spikes or whatever else is out there.
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Old 01-30-2009, 09:09 PM   #29
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i've read that those pads dampen the sound as opposed to spikes. Same thing with the rubber feet. I don't know which is ture as there is alot of conflicting information out there on what is best and what is worse.

I guess everyone has their own preference of which works best. Pads, rubber feet, spikes or whatever else is out there.
If you are referring to the Herbies Big Fat Dots, read the reviews/comments at the bottom of the page.

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Old 01-30-2009, 09:25 PM   #30
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So it seems spikes are mainly used to cut back on vibration. Well I don't seem to get any vibration from my towers, so I'm not that worried. But Wait! Shouldn't speaker vibration be a good thing, as that gives a surround sound experience?
Why put spikes on towers to cut down on the bass then? Why do people put spikes on their subs to do the same, you'd be cancelling out the subs main function!
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Old 01-30-2009, 09:36 PM   #31
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So it seems spikes are mainly used to cut back on vibration. Well I don't seem to get any vibration from my towers, so I'm not that worried. But Wait! Shouldn't speaker vibration be a good thing, as that gives a surround sound experience?
Why put spikes on towers to cut down on the bass then? Why do people put spikes on their subs to do the same, you'd be cancelling out the subs main function!
You are trying to limit any minute movement and interaction between the speakers and the floor. In so doing, you are trying to control the bass and the other frequencies so that it is more detailed, more precise, with better definition. With the towers in particular, you are trying to also have better imaging, soundstage, depth, instruments and voices sound more like what they are, etc.

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Old 01-30-2009, 09:47 PM   #32
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So it seems spikes are mainly used to cut back on vibration. Well I don't seem to get any vibration from my towers, so I'm not that worried. But Wait! Shouldn't speaker vibration be a good thing, as that gives a surround sound experience?
Why put spikes on towers to cut down on the bass then? Why do people put spikes on their subs to do the same, you'd be cancelling out the subs main function!
You don't want anything to vibrate. Would you rather hear something vibrating or beautiful sound ??? Placing your speakers or sub directly on the floor will change the characteristics of the speakers or sub for worse.

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Old 01-30-2009, 09:54 PM   #33
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It's like shooting a gun

you need a solid platform to release the energy not absorb it
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Old 01-30-2009, 09:56 PM   #34
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So it seems spikes are mainly used to cut back on vibration. Well I don't seem to get any vibration from my towers, so I'm not that worried. But Wait! Shouldn't speaker vibration be a good thing, as that gives a surround sound experience?
Why put spikes on towers to cut down on the bass then? Why do people put spikes on their subs to do the same, you'd be cancelling out the subs main function!
Just because you can't physically detect vibration doesn't mean it isn't there.

YES! Speaker vibration IS a good thing, but ONLY if it is contained within the parameters of the unit and NOT oustside influances (such as the floor they are placed on). You want to isolate your speaker (any speaker) as much as you can and prevent the introduction of EXTERNAL vibration.

Spikes, rubber feet et al. can accomplish that sucesfully.

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Old 01-30-2009, 10:23 PM   #35
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Please don't hate me. I am just quoting this from Axiom's FAQ: http://axiomaudio.com/manual_fmsqs.html

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Choose either the spike feet or the rubber feet and attach them to the base. Spikes or feet make absolutely no difference in sound quality. They are supplied for your convenience or stability only.
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Old 01-30-2009, 10:30 PM   #36
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Yeah Axiom also claims that bi wiring makes no measurable sound difference:

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Will it sound any different if you biwire? Some users think it does, but I've never heard any differences, nor have any of our laboratory measurements or scientifically controlled double blind listening tests ever demonstrated there are audible differences. Axiom includes the extra terminals as a nod to those enthusiasts who believe that biwiring results in audible benefits and for the bi-ampers.
Where as other manufacturers recommend bi wiring.
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Old 01-30-2009, 10:37 PM   #37
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It also has a lot to do with what is at the bottom of the speaker cabinet, a 3/8 of an inch of MDF or a rock solid base. You can definitely hear the transfer of energy to the floor on some speakers especially wood on wood or hard surface will add to the problem.

Take the approach necessary. Decoupling works............
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Old 01-30-2009, 10:48 PM   #38
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Yeah Axiom also claims that bi wiring makes no measurable sound difference:

Where as other manufacturers recommend bi wiring.
Many other experts will tell you that bi-wiring has no or minimal effect. However, they believe that bi-amping has a significant effect. Definitive Technology recommends tri-amping their super towers with built-in powered subwoofers.
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Old 01-30-2009, 11:51 PM   #39
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Due to confusion and myself not noticing any sort of vibration transfered, I will probably stick with the rubber feet for now. Not like they're going to muffle my speakers, eh?
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:03 AM   #40
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Meant to ask you what speakers you went with Auto? Any pics yet?
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