Blu-ray playback on a Mac (How-to and tips -- using BootCamp)

[FendersRule]

Please stop using "MAC". it totally undermines all of your content and makes you look like a complete noob.

Your post is completely irrelevant. Another-words, it is hogwash. It is such hogwash, that I am not going to waste my time addressing it. It's almost like arguing with 8 year old reasoning. All you can really do is pat them on the head and say "sure". This isn't a thread for you to be a PC fanboi. Please go do that on your own time. You have no reason to post that nonsense here, as the thread mentions that this is about Macintosh and Blu-ray playback.

[mr.hidef]

Windows Vista.....buggy
Windows XP....buggy
Loepard 10.5 ......just fine

Would I buy a PC just so I can have animated screensavers? no.

[mr.hidef]

Originally Posted by dadkins

Hackintosh - Google it!
If I wanted OSX on my VAIOs, it can be done - but why?
So I couldn't play my games?
So none of my software could run?
So I couldn't play my Blu-ray Discs?

There is nothing I would ever need to have OSX to do.

How about build a real home theater, and stop this nonsence.

[dadkins]

Originally Posted by mr.hidef

How about build a real home theater, and stop this nonsence.

How about, I can take one of my HTPC VAIO laptops anywhere, including to your house, and connect it to any decent Home Theater and even run off batteries if needed.

BTW, it's spelled nonsense.

June 2006 VAIO:

[Chevypower]

Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

I use to own an imac, it's certainly overpriced "engineering". And since you're an "engineer", how many clients prefer all their parts/components to be as proprietary as MAC software and hardware is? I guarantee you under 1%.

After I sold my imac (because it didn't serve any purpose to me). I've ran OSX on a virtual machine. Which ran perfectly fine! However, the issue was that I never used it, it's without actual purpose if i have Windows... so, delete!

I now enjoy all the gaming i want, video editing (sony vegas 8 pro - wont' run on MACS), adobe creative suite cs4, mediashout 3 (won't run on MACS), microsoft office 2007, swishmax 2 (won't run on MACS).

(i just deleted an entire paragraph about software, but i'm just gonna end it here, there's too much to say. I don't know why i even bother with these posts anymore)

GO PC!!!

I have Sony Vegas Pro 8, Adobe CS3 Master Collection for the Mac, iMovie '08, Final Cut Express and Final Cut Studio 2. Final Cut Studio 2 is the best one to work with by far, I wouldn't give a rats @$$ if Sony Vegas didn't work on my Mac Pro, or Macbook Pro - actually, it can because I have VMware Fusion and XP on all our macs (bootcamp isn't the only thing out there), I just don't really use it. If a customer wants Blu-ray authoring, I can use our HP laptop with Blu-ray drive and Sony DVD Architect 5.0 to burn them a copy. Unfortunately, this doesn't happen very often. I always use Final Cut Pro for editing though, and I will master it in HD if the footage was shot in HD!
When using a PC, I also find it tempting to yell out "GO PC!!!" I usually find that, as well as hitting it, doesn't seem to help though. So, I think we both have something in common there :-)

[mr.hidef]

Originally Posted by dadkins

How about, I can take one of my HTPC VAIO laptops anywhere, including to your house, and connect it to any decent Home Theater and even run off batteries if needed.

BTW, it's spelled nonsense.

June 2006 VAIO:

THIS THREAD IS FOR Mac users.....go somewhere else........now.

[dadkins]

Originally Posted by mr.hidef

THIS THREAD IS FOR Mac users.....go somewhere else........now.

LOL!
I can post in any thread.
When someone posts false information, it is perfectly fine for me (or anyone else) to correct them.

No need to get "miffed".

[JadedRaverLA]

How did I not see my (hopefully helpful to some people) post devolving into the 3.2 trillionth OS X vs. Windows piss-off on an internet forum? Obviously, I've spent too much time away from the interwebs lately.

Anyway, the point of my OP was to show Mac owners how to play Blu-ray discs on their existing systems, if they so want to. No, it's not cost-effective if you're in the market for a new system -- then again, when has that EVER been an advantage of Macs?

Despite the fanboy rantings on both sides, however, many people choose to buy Apple products simply because they prefer them... yet desire Blu-ray playback. I was simply laying out the process for those so inclined. Is it ideal? No. Should Apple have offered Blu-ray playback within OS X since at least 2007? Definitely. But things are what they are.

Personally, normally when I want to watch a movie I do it in my home theatre... not on my notebook. But given how much I'm going to be traveling over the next year, having a portable solution to playing all my Blu-ray movies is a huge benefit. That was a consideration when I bought my MacBook Pro. However, money not being a major concern, I still chose the Apple machine as I prefer doing most of my work within OS X, and I knew I could dual-boot to watch Blu-ray movies when on the road.

OS pissing contest aside, I don't think I'm the only Blu-ray fan who still prefers to use an Apple machine and OS X for their day-to-day tasks. And, hopefully, sometime soon (SL?) either Apple or a third-party vendor will bring Blu-ray playback to Macs within OS X. Till then, hopefully some Mac users will find these tips useful.

[mr.hidef]

I would like to appologize to the OP for some other people on this thread for ruining a simple help topic thread...If you are here to bash Mac users, please go somewhere else. This is uncalled for. Some people misstype, some people feel it's nessecary to point these things out. This was supposed to be a help/advice thread, wich I feel was a great idea, and to the OP, I appologize for those who have taken it way too far..........as usual.

[dadkins]

I found it quite useful - for a Mac friend of mine.
It's just that when the overzealous Mac users make wild claims, they need to be corrected.
Self-policing might be helpful from the realist Mac users - sadly it rarely happens.

Suggestion though, within native Windows(XP and Vista) ArcSoft TMT is a bit better at most things when playing Blu-ray.
Get a copy and have a go at it with your setup and see if it is any better.
I'm sure the testing will be appreciated by all!

[brettallica]

Just for the record, I tried to say thanks!

As a fellow "crossy", I hate seeing these posts. Both operating systems have their benefits and detriments. Anyone who thinks "their" operating system is unequivocally better than the other is just being silly.

[Chevypower]

Originally Posted by dadkins

I found it quite useful - for a Mac friend of mine.
It's just that when the overzealous Mac users make wild claims, they need to be corrected.
Self-policing might be helpful from the realist Mac users - sadly it rarely happens.

Suggestion though, within native Windows(XP and Vista) ArcSoft TMT is a bit better at most things when playing Blu-ray.
Get a copy and have a go at it with your setup and see if it is any better.
I'm sure the testing will be appreciated by all!

It's one thing to be corrected, it's another to be "correct" on Macs by people who don't even use them....
Still, I am all for anybody voicing their opinion. Even, if it's not accurate, and consists of generalizations on people who use one type of computer or another.... or even both.

[FendersRule]

Originally Posted by dadkins

I found it quite useful - for a Mac friend of mine.
It's just that when the overzealous Mac users make wild claims, they need to be corrected.
Self-policing might be helpful from the realist Mac users - sadly it rarely happens.

Suggestion though, within native Windows(XP and Vista) ArcSoft TMT is a bit better at most things when playing Blu-ray.
Get a copy and have a go at it with your setup and see if it is any better.
I'm sure the testing will be appreciated by all!

You are clearly mistaken, and you still insist on thinking you are right. You have no right to "correct" me. It is YOU that needs correcting.

Here's the fact. A Mac can do EVERYTHING a PC can. This is a FACT. Ever heard of boot camp? Look at my initial post and claim. I clearly said "Mac", and not "Mosx". You are wrong, and you just need to deal with it. Why are you posting in this thread if you have no information relevant to the topic?

[dadkins]

See what I mean?

One last time, bootcamp without Windows itself is a waste of time.
So, for your Mac to do everything you still have to use Windows to do it.

The topic is playing a Blu-ray on a Mac.
To do so, you have to use Windows. Period.
Like it or hate it, ya still need Windows.

[dadkins]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

It's one thing to be corrected, it's another to be "correct" on Macs by people who don't even use them....
Still, I am all for anybody voicing their opinion. Even, if it's not accurate, and consists of generalizations on people who use one type of computer or another.... or even both.

So, you're saying that you can play a BD on your Mac on OSX without Windows?

[FendersRule]

Originally Posted by dadkins

So, you're saying that you can play a BD on your Mac on OSX without Windows?

Your reasoning is deeply flawed. Wanna know a secret?

You can play on BD on a Macintosh. Wow, was that so hard to figure out? Doesn't matter if it's through Ubuntu, OSX, or Windows. You can play BD on a Macintosh. Get it?

Guess what? Let's do some simple deductive reasoning.

PC = Windows, Linux

Macintosh = Windows, OSX, Linux.

Are you are trying to push your initiative by saying "Windows" does more? Guess what? Windows is something we call and Operating System. You need to learn more about hardware and software before posting here. Noted above, the Macintosh does more than the PC does. I am still waiting for an educated response from you. Until then, I will go open my cider port of Half-Life 2 on OSX.

[dadkins]

What is Bootcamp?
What is the purpose of Bootcamp?
As per the OP in this thread, for anyone to play a Blu-ray Disc on a Mac, you have to use Windows to do it.
OSX cannot do it!
Your Mac cannot play a Blu-ray Disc without booting to Windows in Bootcamp then running a Windows player software.

See how that works friend?

OS vs hardware?

Originally Posted by FendersRule

Why would 90% of the world feel they would need a PC, if Macs can do EVERYTHING that Windows can (Dual Boot)?

Mac is an OS?
Maybe you should learn to distinguish between the two, huh?


From the Original post in this thread:

"What you'll need:
A recent Intel-based MacBook, MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, iMac, or Mac Pro (with nvidia or ATI graphics) -- MacBook, MacBook Air, and Mac Mini with Intel graphics may work though playback will be mainly handled by the CPU, potentially causing stuttering playback
A BD-ROM or BD-R/RE drive -- I purchased the recently released FastMac APP-6907 External Slimline USB 2.0 BD-ROM drive, which is a portable unit that can actually be powered entirely by a Mac notebook with 2 USB ports
Windows XP 32-bit or Vista 32 or 64-bit -- I use Vista Business Edition 64-bit for this review
Blu-ray playback software -- I use Cyberlink PowerDVD 8 Ultra, though any of the Windows playback solutions should work

[Chevypower]

Originally Posted by dadkins

So, you're saying that you can play a BD on your Mac on OSX without Windows?

No, I am saying that there are more programs out there than Bootcamp... I always get customers asking "Oh, is that Bootcamp, you're using there?" Has the PC world not heard of Fusion? BTW isn't Toast 9 supposed to work with Blu-ray integration on a Mac? (without installing Windows). I haven't tried it yet, cos i haven't put a BD burner in the Mac Pro.

[dadkins]

Bootcamp, Fusion, Parallels... wouldn't know
Burning, I believe it will.
Playing a BD ROM movie, don't think Toast is a player, although I honestly cannot say.

EDIT: Just went and checked, no Toast will not play BD ROM.
Toast is a burning application/suite.

Thank you for a mature response!

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by mr.hidef

Windows Vista.....buggy
Windows XP....buggy
Loepard 10.5 ......just fine

Would I buy a PC just so I can have animated screensavers? no.

Of course macs have bugs! just like EVERY OS. MACS get viruses too.