No Suprise...Favre Retires Part 2 - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

nick1091 · 02-11-2009, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QwikSand

I'm glad he let the Jets know this soon so they can plan out what they're gonna do for a QB instead of waiting until the preseason. Is Clemens still their #1 choice? Was he the main backup?

He was, and I'd imagine the job will be his to lose, unless they sign a veteran to push him in training camp (Byron Leftwich, Derek Anderson, Jeff Garcia if he doesn't resign with Tampa Bay.)

The problem with Clemens at QB is that they're pretty much a win now team - most of their top players with the exception of Revis, Nick Mangold & Leon Washington are either already at their prime or are just about ready to decline.

jono_0101 · 02-11-2009, 04:28 PM

hopefully its for good this time, it was pretty obvious his career was done when the jets picked him up, not that im hating on the jets, but just the fact that the packers wanted nothing to do with him when he came back even though he pretty much WAS the packers for years and years and years

Blu-Benny · 02-11-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jono_0101

hopefully its for good this time, it was pretty obvious his career was done when the jets picked him up, not that im hating on the jets, but just the fact that the packers wanted nothing to do with him when he came back even though he pretty much WAS the packers for years and years and years

it was time for a change. and judging rodgers performance this last year, it was the right time for that change.

STARSCREAM · 02-11-2009, 04:31 PM

Just saw this on ESPN and they also said the Packers are gonna draft USC qb Mark Sanchez. Sure wish Favre would have gotten to go to the Vikings or Bears

, oh well.

jono_0101 · 02-11-2009, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

Just saw this on ESPN and they also said the Packers are gonna draft USC qb Mark Sanchez. Sure wish Favre would have gotten to go to the Vikings or Bears

, oh well.

that would have been kinda funny

Blu-Benny · 02-11-2009, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

Just saw this on ESPN and they also said the Packers are gonna draft USC qb Mark Sanchez. Sure wish Favre would have gotten to go to the Vikings or Bears

, oh well.

whoever said that doesn't know a whole their @$$ from a hole in the ground.

we've got 2 college standouts as backups and a new defense being implemented. our primary need is gonna be a defensive starter for our new 3-4 def. or an Off. lineman.

brettallica · 02-11-2009, 05:03 PM

FWIW - Favre haters need to recognize that he can still play this game at a nearly elite level, if not at a "way better than average" level.

He was #11 in passing yards (with those craptastic receivers), #9 in TD passes (again, with some mediocre hands catching those lasers), and #5 in percentage of passes caught. How he accrued those stats this season with his corps is nothing short of outstanding. As with any gunslinger type QB, you're going to have to take the good with the bad. In Favre's case, the INTs probably frustrate a lot of people, but he's still a top-notch QB, and a hell of a better option than just about any NFL QB right now with the exception of the absolute best -- i.e. the ones that are in their primes (and who quite un-coincidentally have the best receivers as well).

P@t_Mtl · 02-11-2009, 05:06 PM

Only have one question on this subject :

For how long?

Blu-Benny · 02-11-2009, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brettallica

FWIW - Favre haters need to recognize that he can still play this game at a nearly elite level, if not at a "way better than average" level.

He was #11 in passing yards (with those craptastic receivers), #9 in TD passes (again, with some mediocre hands catching those lasers), and #5 in percentage of passes caught. How he accrued those stats this season with his corps is nothing short of outstanding. As with any gunslinger type QB, you're going to have to take the good with the bad. In Favre's case, the INTs probably frustrate a lot of people, but he's still a top-notch QB, and a hell of a better option than just about any NFL QB right now with the exception of the absolute best -- i.e. the ones that are in their primes (and who quite un-coincidentally have the best receivers as well).

u hit the nail on the head w/this.

bigpapy · 02-11-2009, 05:20 PM

I'm Packer fan and I don't care if he don't retire with the Green Bay jersey.

QwikSand · 02-11-2009, 06:07 PM

It's the Jets that ESPN predicts will draft Sanchez at 17, but I doubt he'll last that long. Other teams need help ahead of them.

nick1091 · 02-11-2009, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brettallica

FWIW - Favre haters need to recognize that he can still play this game at a nearly elite level, if not at a "way better than average" level.

He was #11 in passing yards (with those craptastic receivers), #9 in TD passes (again, with some mediocre hands catching those lasers), and #5 in percentage of passes caught. How he accrued those stats this season with his corps is nothing short of outstanding. As with any gunslinger type QB, you're going to have to take the good with the bad. In Favre's case, the INTs probably frustrate a lot of people, but he's still a top-notch QB, and a hell of a better option than just about any NFL QB right now with the exception of the absolute best -- i.e. the ones that are in their primes (and who quite un-coincidentally have the best receivers as well).

I'm sorry, but those stats you've described don't make him a top-notch quarterback, not when you lead the league in interceptions, are in the top 10 in sacks, and average less yards per attempt than David Garrard (you think the Jets receivers are bad? try the Jags on for size) or Shaun Hill. And the fact is he absolutely crapped the bed down the stretch.

I'm not a Favre hater, and I think he had a historic career, but he clearly didn't have it anymore.

nick1091 · 02-11-2009, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QwikSand

It's the Jets that ESPN predicts will draft Sanchez at 17, but I doubt he'll last that long. Other teams need help ahead of them.

Agreed, I don't think he goes lower than #10 to San Fran. If the 9ers don't take him though, he would likely be around for the Jets at 17. None of the other 6 in front of them need a QB, at least not enough to use a 1st rounder on one.

QwikSand · 02-11-2009, 06:41 PM

I'm a 49ers fan and I'm not sure that is what they really need so I do think he'll be around. I like what Hill did last year and think with a full season and the same receiving core all year he could do a lot. Most project them to take a LB.

Favre said his reason isn't he doesn't feel he can play at the same elite level so that's why he is leaving. I really liked him while he played.

FIDDYPOP · 02-11-2009, 06:46 PM

John Madden may be heartbroken. Madden is in love with Brett, actually maybe they can now spen more time together.

brettallica · 02-11-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick1091

I'm sorry, but those stats you've described don't make him a top-notch quarterback, not when you lead the league in interceptions, are in the top 10 in sacks, and average less yards per attempt than David Garrard (you think the Jets receivers are bad? try the Jags on for size) or Shaun Hill. And the fact is he absolutely crapped the bed down the stretch.

I'm not a Favre hater, and I think he had a historic career, but he clearly didn't have it anymore.

I agree that "top-notch" may have been a bit of an overstatement, but I'd still stand behind my original argument that he's a better option than many/most QBs out there.

I'm also not a Favre hater or lover; I just think people (not necessarily you) like to bandwagon the whole topic of how he's "done." He can still play, is all I'm saying.

nick1091 · 02-11-2009, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brettallica

I agree that "top-notch" may have been a bit of an overstatement, but I'd still stand behind my original argument that he's a better option than many/most QBs out there.

I'm also not a Favre hater or lover; I just think people (not necessarily you) like to bandwagon the whole topic of how he's "done." He can still play, is all I'm saying.

I hear what you're saying, and I agree he is better than some starters currently in the league, but certainly he's not what he once was. "Done" is a subjective term, but his days as a true franchise QB for a successful team are behind him.

Like I said, I'm not a hater (I'm a Giants fan), but I think he came back this year for the wrong reasons. He took his sweet time to tell the Packers on more than one occasion he wasn't going to come back, then once they started moving forward with Aaron Rodgers he acted like a bitter ex-girlfriend who sees her ex out with someone new and goes out of her way to make him jealous.

McKellars · 02-12-2009, 12:11 AM

I'd rather hear about this rather than A-Rod and his steroids.

PH3AR · 02-12-2009, 12:33 AM

Finally, this whole year and him coming back think ruined his reputation too me at least!

SACKED!!!!!!!

02-11-2009, 04:31 PM	#24
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	Just saw this on ESPN and they also said the Packers are gonna draft USC qb Mark Sanchez. Sure wish Favre would have gotten to go to the Vikings or Bears, oh well.

Similar Threads
thread	Forum	Thread Starter	Replies	Last Post
John Madden retires	Movies	BluLobsta	53	04-18-2009 07:23 PM
John Madden retires from broadcasting	General Chat	DetroitSportsFan	9	04-17-2009 10:53 AM
Clint Eastwood retires from Acting?	Movies	GreenScar	6	11-24-2008 03:14 AM
Favre to Return...but not to Packers	General Chat	UlicBelouve	24	07-14-2008 05:16 AM
Ken Kutaragi retires	PS3	JTK	24	05-07-2007 10:54 PM

02-11-2009, 04:28 PM	#22
jono_0101 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2008 Location:St. Louis Blu-ray collection:164 Trading Score:7	hopefully its for good this time, it was pretty obvious his career was done when the jets picked him up, not that im hating on the jets, but just the fact that the packers wanted nothing to do with him when he came back even though he pretty much WAS the packers for years and years and years

02-11-2009, 05:03 PM	#27
brettallica Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Santa Cruz, California Home Theater Gallery:51 Blu-ray collection:79 Trading Score:6	FWIW - Favre haters need to recognize that he can still play this game at a nearly elite level, if not at a "way better than average" level. He was #11 in passing yards (with those craptastic receivers), #9 in TD passes (again, with some mediocre hands catching those lasers), and #5 in percentage of passes caught. How he accrued those stats this season with his corps is nothing short of outstanding. As with any gunslinger type QB, you're going to have to take the good with the bad. In Favre's case, the INTs probably frustrate a lot of people, but he's still a top-notch QB, and a hell of a better option than just about any NFL QB right now with the exception of the absolute best -- i.e. the ones that are in their primes (and who quite un-coincidentally have the best receivers as well).

02-11-2009, 05:06 PM	#28
P@t_Mtl Blu-ray Duke Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Montreal Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:452 DVD collection:513 Trading Score:3	Only have one question on this subject : For how long?

02-11-2009, 05:20 PM	#30
bigpapy Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Houston,Tx Blu-ray collection:303 Trading Score:26	I'm Packer fan and I don't care if he don't retire with the Green Bay jersey.

02-11-2009, 06:07 PM	#31
QwikSand Power Member Member since:Dec 2007 Trading Score:25	It's the Jets that ESPN predicts will draft Sanchez at 17, but I doubt he'll last that long. Other teams need help ahead of them.

02-11-2009, 06:41 PM	#34
QwikSand Power Member Member since:Dec 2007 Trading Score:25	I'm a 49ers fan and I'm not sure that is what they really need so I do think he'll be around. I like what Hill did last year and think with a full season and the same receiving core all year he could do a lot. Most project them to take a LB. Favre said his reason isn't he doesn't feel he can play at the same elite level so that's why he is leaving. I really liked him while he played.

02-11-2009, 06:46 PM	#35
FIDDYPOP Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Chi-Town Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:444 Blu-ray reviews:1	John Madden may be heartbroken. Madden is in love with Brett, actually maybe they can now spen more time together.

02-12-2009, 12:11 AM	#38
McKellars Senior Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Detroit, Michigan Blu-ray collection:24	I'd rather hear about this rather than A-Rod and his steroids.

02-12-2009, 12:33 AM	#39
PH3AR Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Dover, Pennsylvania PSN:WORKINtheCORNER Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:325 Blu-ray reviews:2	Finally, this whole year and him coming back think ruined his reputation too me at least! SACKED!!!!!!!

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals